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What's their powder supply like? All my normal spots seem to be sold out.

Same here Dan I'm in district 26 (all republican) and they basically backed the same bills. Armor piercing, mental health check, and Firearms ID bills. This is not good.

Nice!

He's proud of the bills that were passed. Make sure you update his facebook page and let him know how you feel about that.. https://www.facebook...319655008135012

They might not have a clue, but know exactly what they're doing. They might not understand how restricted we already are, and how these laws are pointless, but they want to work toward a gun ban. Yes - they sound like idiots trying to defend their views, but they don't care. I heard one assemblyman say he wanted to stop face to face transfers just to get a second look at the paperwork. They are progressive liberals wanting a government controlled nanny state. They believe in two classes of people, the elite and us regular folk. They know a gun ban won't go through, but they'll tread that fine line and make the laws so restrictive, that people will not go through the hassle to obtain firearms. The hard part is getting these guys voted out of office to change this. They represent the lower income parts of the state where they live on government programs or are liberal democrats. The people will not vote out the hand that feeds them and some are voting for them just to vote the party line. They're democrats that have no idea what's going on in the world. We are a minority here. The only hope we have is changing the minds that are "in between" and have a brain in their head. I don't believe we have a chance with the hardcore liberal minded. We need to use every avenue available to defeat them.

The web page is showing status as "pending" - will begin shortly. I don't know how accurate the web is. http://www.njleg.sta.../live_audio.asp

I doubt it, and do most really listen to common sense?

Here's an update I just got from Bob at NJ2AS: "Here's a report from the "Front Lines" in Westfield NJ: by one of our member who was there today, Dave Rosenthal The Move On crowd was very disappointed that we were there, and WE WERE STRONG! It started-out about equal in numbers, and then we got more people to show-up than they did! We out-powered their PA system with our chanting, we had more people & more signs. We had several Gadston flags. NBC-4 from NYC was there with a cameraman & Reporter Pat Battle. She interviewed some of both sides, and brought-up "Assault Weapons" and how the 2A wasn't intended to be used to defend assault weapons, to which our responder said that "the Bible is 2K years old, so do we throw that out too?". A passerby (unknown to us) drove to Dunkin Donuts and bought us A box of Joe and a dozen donuts & brought it all back for us to have in the cold! The Move-On crowd started dissipating only an hour after the Protest started, but we hung in there and made sure the entire area was picked-up garbage-wise. NJ2AS was there for at least 3/4 hour longer than Move-On. A lot of us went in to the Congressman's Office to give our thanks for his support of the 2A, including myself. I and several others got a chance to speak with one of the other side's Protestors. She's from Alabama. We told her about how some of the proposed laws don't make any sense, and outlined specifics. By the time we parted ways, she not only saw our side of the story, but agreed with me that our Politicians in Trenton are either ignorant or just plain screwing with us, especially in reference to the proposed .50 cal ban and how it would affect flintlocks and cap locks due to bad wording of the Bill. When I pointed out that this is the third time "her side" is trying this BS and since they all make 6 figure incomes & are supposed to be smart, she got upset at the Politicians and said, "I see what you mean" & " My brother is a reenactor and uses old black powder guns. Why would anybody want to ban them?" I told her that the proposed Bills were deliberately written the way they were as an attempt at gun-grabbing. She stated she thought she might be "on the wrong side". Everyone was orderly, the Cops were O-K with us and warned us to move our vehicles if they were parked in an adjacent private lot, which was nice of them. Bob" Outstanding - Way To Go Guys!!!

The media cannot be trusted because they will spin an article or flat out lie to promote their own beliefs. I would only take into consideration something from a trustworthy source. Is "Newsmax Wires" a trustworthy source?

15 rounds is not a large capacity magazine, it's standard capacity.

This is already signed law in California?

If you plan on loading other calibers or rifle in the future, you may want to go with a more durable press. I use a RCBS Rock Chucker that is built like a tank and will last for years. I'm not saying that the Lee is bad, but you usually get what you pay for. The Rock Chucker Supreme Master kit comes with a powder measure, scale, priming tool, and a few other things for around 299 if you can find it on sale. I believe RCBS may still be giving a 50.00 rebate if you spend over 300. The Lee 4 die sets are good since it comes with a factory crimp die which crimps and does a full-length size. Most of my die's are Lee 4 die sets. Get several reloading books . Read up and get the steps down. You want to have a variety of recipes to compare. You'll need small pistol primers for .40 S&W. HP38 or Win 231 (same thing) is a good powder to start with. It meters well in my powder measure and can be used in different calibers. I've used it for 9mm, .40 S&W, 38 SP, and .45ACP. Stay safe.

Make sure that he knows that you are one of many that will be voting and doing their best to remove him and his liaisons from office. Let him know that there will be repercussions from the safety committee hearing. Make him feel the heat.

Yea - everyone should let him know on his FB page.

They won't ship primers or powder to NJ, but they will ship ammo. I have the primers and powder shipped to NYC of all places unless that has changed with recent events. Go figure.

Are any of you going to talk to him in person? You need to bring recorders and record the conversation. We need to bring out in the open how he may actually disagree with some on the bills that were forced through and any controversial issues that happened. The media will not expose them, we must. Project Veritas were at the NJ2AS meeting in January giving tips and instruction in how to expose the gun control hypocrites. Check out their site. You may get some tips. http://www.theprojectveritas.org/ Make him support their decisions and get it on tape. We need to expose them.

Welcome Tom - the closet one would be Cherry Ridge up rt 23. It's an outdoor private range. http://www.anjrpc.org/?cherry_ridge

OK Dan - I was just testing you

Amy I believe Twitter and Facebook are great tools for us to use. There are many in NJ that have no idea what's going on, including some gun owners. I call them the recreational gun owners that go to the range a couple of times a year or just have a gun at home for self-defense. I personally know some, and their jaw drops when they hear the legislation that's being forced through. We're well-informed from being here or belonging to groups like NJ2AS. There are many who have never heard of these groups. Most of the people I speak to at ranges are not members of New Jersey Gun Forums, but I try to spread the word. We need to get as many as we can involved, not just for gun rights, but to rid NJ of its tyrannical government.

Nice read. I'm sure there are others that can fix grammar and punctuation better than me.

Dan - there was a guy that had to leave in the beginning because he complained that we were only given 2 minutes to speak while others opposing us were given more time. I don't know if he was escorted out or not. There were several rooms set up so things could have been going on that others were not aware of. I was on the outside with Ray and Alec because they ran out of room to seat people. He did come up to the podium to inform us why he had to leave and said it was extremely biased against us.

They may do this, but it is not acceptable, so it doesn't really matter at this point.

I know it looks bleak, but we cannot accept any of this and fight. We were already over-regulated before this recent event. Our politicians are exploiting a recent tragedy for their political agenda.

Great letter. These type of letters showing what we will do voting wise because of how we have been/are treated show good cause and affect. It at least gives them something to think about. Now we need to get thousands of letters such as these flowing in.

The NY Times article linked above states that these will go to assembly for vote on 2/21. Is this true?