matt6669

Slight update: It seems I might of been able to source an older copy of the bylaws from around 1990. Now knowing the history of this organization it's almost safe to say that these bylaws havn't changed in 50 years so we at least have a starting point. I will get them scanned in once I have them in my hands and anyone with a legal knowledge who would be willing to read through and make heads or tails of these, it would be greatly appreciated. Also I am actively looking for someone with knowledge in graphic design who would be willing to help make up a simple flyer that could be passed out at CR to inform the members about the current SB debacle and how they can help. I'm also thinking of setting up a simple gmail account to add to the flyer so that people can get on a mailing list etc. M

yes pink unicorns do exist because I do know Eric. For once I don't think the outsourcing of the membership cards was due to back scratching I think it had everything to do with people not checking up on volunteers and volunteers not doing their job so ANJRPC got put into a jam with the backlog of memberships. Now regardless of how bad the backlog is, if a company was hired to do it, the problems should all be fixed by now otherwise this company needs to be fired and a new one rehired because clearly they are doing something wrong. Worst case scenario Dan, once I find the location and time of the monthly meetings, you can just come with me and air your concerns about your membership there

trust me the powers to be don't even want to hear about something like this. If it was up to me, there would be a gate and everyone would be given a keyfob. What we are paying for this outside company now to handle memberships we could easily implement a system like this. Also there is no reason why you can't get a membership card and a keyfob when you sign up that day. They can easily do it 1,2,3. It's a complete joke.

I have found out through the grapevine the problem with memberships. Membership processing is no longer being handled in house. The two people in charge of memberships I believe they were a male and a female would go to membership sunday and they were suppose to go home and then enter all those applications into a program for the membership roll. Well apparently these two people weren't doing this so now ANJRPC got stuck with a completely out-dated set of membership rolls. This then forced ANJRPC to out-source the membership processing to and outside company thus costing ANJRPC more money in the long run. Supposedly the membership processing right now is so screwed up they don't even know where to begin so the fact that I got my membership badge surprises me. Dan my best advice to you like I said the other day is send SB an email and while your at it tell him you think he's a corrupt bastard for practically stealing money from ANJRPC. ps 50 cal isn't banned from CR, it is allowed on a certain day during certain hours when they pre-wet the hill if someone shows up with a .50 cal. FYI

I just unapproved about 20 posts. If you guys wish to bicker go bicker somewhere else. I'll just ban the next person who starts shitting in other people's threads.

I'm not so sure about that. I've seen quite a few people there that can shoot pistols and rifles and shotties a HELL of a lot better than you bub.

jesus I leave for a few hours and my thread gets completely **** on. Talk your arguing bs somewhere else! Maks that's pretty much the plan of attack. I think my first order of business is informing the membership base and I think the best way to do that is to start passing out flyers to people while I am at the range. Hopefully the person I contacted to make the flyer will want to donate his time to help make this happen. You need to inform in order to gain momentum so hopefully we can do this. This board has GOT to go and we as members need to be shown the minutes, and shown the people who actually voted in favor of this because they now need to be on the chopping block. It's a shame to because if my information is correct one of our very own voted in favor of this measure and it deeply saddens me to hear this!

A quick search on line turned up nothing for ANJRPC by-laws and I doubt anyone has a copy of the by-laws. I am going to have to try and find a way to obtain them.

I don't know, the last time I checked it was a range membership with a membership to ANJRPC included in the price of your range membership. Yes I know it's splitting hairs but there is a difference!

Well I was able to dig a little further and found out some more information. First thing I'll get off the table is Scott Bach is NOT closing his law office to work full time for ANJRPC nor is Scott Bach being hired as a lawyer for ANJRPC. All Scott is and ever will be is a face to the organization as our president. Now for the part that should really just piss you off and if you don't see a parallel to our lovely president and congress and how they handled the health care law then your in trouble: So a few weeks back Scott Bach started calling all of his friends within ANJRPC telling everyone that he was going to be stepping down from the position of President because he was investing too much time and it was destroying his law firm. ANJRPC's response should of been, well we are very sorry to hear this, thank you for your service we will begin looking for a new president. This clearly is not what happened. They decided by themselves without member input that they would create a NEW position and pay SB 150,000 dollars a year along with his existing expense account. Now a few weeks later we have people showing up to the board meeting who havn't been there in years just to vote on this resolution because they are all buddy buddy. If this isn't closed door political BS I don't know what is. Stay tuned as I will be talking with people who know more of the legal aspect of this situation than I do and what we as members can do to get this reversed. This position should of NEVER been passed by the board and it should of been voted on by the membership. All ANJRPC positions are voluntary, if you don't feel you have the time to commit then you should step down because it's VOLUNTARY!! I'm also still waiting on information on their meetings of when and where but I'm also finding out that they do ask people to leave when they talk about certain things but supposedly that's not allowed based on the way the board and membership was setup from the beginning. Stay tuned for more to come

Are you military or visiting somewhere? Military there's a good chance they will let you, vacation probably not so much.

damn Tony your sons's must have them dragging on the ground b/c there is no way you'd catch me doing that. That is wicked crazy. I thought the co pilot was getting launched on that one wave towards the end. Wicked cool video tho

Thanks for the video mark. It seems either the shorts or the colibri will work sound wise I just wonder if I can get cb shorts in hollowpoint hmm

absolutely correct Dan. I only hunt deer in NJ with my shotgun and bow, no squirrels over here in NJ. CB shorts may be a possibility as well. PS Tim, I will call you tomorrow may take you up on that!

hmm cabelas doesn't carry the 20's was trying to put in an order to get free shipping there hmmm Danno I'll talk to you if I see you later this evening.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Ammunition/Rimfire-Ammunition|/pc/104792580/c/104691780/sc/104536080/Aguila-22-LR-Sniper-Subsonic-60-gr-Ammunition-with-Dry-Box-150-Per-500/705930.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fshooting-ammunition-rimfire-ammunition%2F_%2FN-1100192%2B4294758999%2FNe-4294758999%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253BBRprd740346%26WTz_st%3DGuidedNav%26WTz_stype%3DGNU&WTz_l=SBC%3BBRprd740346%3Bcat104536080 anyone ever use this stuff?

hmmm I'm not sure that stuff is going to take down a squirrel. Maybe I need to go a little louder than that stuff

hey guys What ammo would be the quietest in a 10/22. I'm talking super duper stealth hopefully as quiet or quieter than a bb gun. Thanks

The schedule is not hard to understand. If the event is posted in italics it means the range is open to members but the cease fires are under the director of the competition. If not listed in italics the range is closed to all members not competing in the competition for the mentioned time amount. In your case, the range is closed from 1-5pm today.

So in the following weeks it doesn't sound like anything has changed. What a shame the old store use to rock!

nice im assuming a gasser?

I doubt SB is giving up his practice for a 150k dollar salary I mean it's possible and I've definitely been wrong before but I just don't see it happening. I am in the process of trying to find out when the meetings are and if we are actually allowed to attend. As far as I'm aware the meetings are closed door meetings but we'll see when we get an actual response. I'm trying to get this information back channel because I don't really feel like messaging SB at the moment. The sad part is the range is good and the RO's are fantastic, but the range could be awesome maybe not as awesome as CJRPC but it could be up there. But unfortunately they are using the money from the range and using all of it to fund ANJRPC to fight legal battles that they continue to lose. I would write more but I'm deadly dog sick and I'm going to go lay down. M

your getting a new truck Mark?? And yes the RO's at CR are phenomenal everything else about CR = epic fail

In a time when we would like to believe that cronyism, political corruption, flawed morals, and flawed leadership only happens to the people that are fighting the fight against us it seems that thought process would lead you to la la land. Over the past few years that I've been a member at Cherry Ridge and thus a member of ANJRPC I've had the "pleasure" of shooting on membership Sundays. And by "pleasure" I mean anything but happiness. It's amazing that for the past 3 years, every month on membership Sunday the clubhouse is packed. Standing room only people. It's gotten to the point that the RO's are being told to turn people away at the gate if they get there late because there is no room for them. Now on one hand you'd think this is fantastic and that this is a step in the right direction getting more people into the sport/hobby of shooting. Now while I agree this is a fantastic thing to happen it leads me to a few problems. The first problem I have is with any increased number of members would lead to at least a slightly increase in members that would use the range. More people using the ranges equals a higher chance of an accident. So the wise thing to do would be to increase RO appearance. But what does CR/ANJRPC do, they decrease the hours that they give to the RO's stating financial reasons. Right I'm sure that's the exact reason. Second problem I have is more members using the range means a higher wear and tear on the entire property. Now I have actually seen some improvements going on and they sent out this lovely letter that says that improvements are also coming in the future but we as members get the littlest blip of information. It's as if your not on the board you don't have a clue whats going on with your membership dues. Next, lets talk about a large sum of our funds being spent. It has come to my attention that the board at ANJRPC passed a motion to a payroll for our beloved Scott Bach to the sum of $150,000.00 a year. Yes you read that right, 150k dollars a year. Now to my knowledge being President of ANJRPC is a part time position and while he may put in countless hours of work I believe that sum of money is ridiculous. CR/ANJRPC scoffs at any attempt to further improve the range, giving more hours to the RO's to provide a safer environment, nor does it seem when an idea as simple as bringing vending machines to the property to increase revenue anything gets accomplished. All I hear about is this person will do it because it turns out this person is related to someone that owns a vending machine company yet here we are still without vending machines. Or an idea of lets take X amount of dollars to do fund raisers sent out by mail to all of our members. Here we have documentation that this type of idea works and we will bring in more money than we spend. This doesn't get accomplished either because it falls on deaf ears. What I am trying to get at is the same crap we are getting fed by our president and other leaders are the same crap we are being fed by the people who are "supposedly" on our side. I urge everyone to send a simple email saying your tired of the same closed door sessions that our congress is pulling on us and that you'd like to see things like a major improvement at our range and a bigger RO presence as well. Also you'd like to see meetings posted either through an email blast or on the website so that if you wanted to you could attend the meetings to see whats going on behind said closed doors. There are so many other wrong doings going on over there that I could go on forever but what's the point when we already know everything is screwed up. A highly disappointed member! M

What kinda ammo is this? I can barely handload ammo for that price.