matt6669

Because the school system consumes the largest amount of local money, that is why they are the center of attention. Trust me Mike, if it was up to me, there would be pay cuts across the board for public positions. Trust me, there is no reason for a school system to have a Principal, two vice principals and then have two assistant principals. All making over 100k! And Mike my going through a school system gives me without a doubt an idea about the education system. When that was brought up, i was being questioned on how I knew teachers taught or didn't, that had nothing to do with the money situation. M OH BTW Rscalzo I'm still waiting on your answer why the public sector is not going through the same things that the private sector is going through with layoffs and pay cuts and being required to work longer hours etc.

Gee, and yet the one's complaining about these salaries are the one's who approve them. The voters in the town. Their lack of concern in choosing a Board of education now comes back to haunt them. Who can they pass the blame off to one this one? SERIOUSLY!!! Your going to sit there and say that I'm the one to blame even though you have NO idea how I vote?? Really!!??? Are you that dense that you think I would vote for that shit?

Lets see I'm 6 years out of high school so I have that first hand knowledge. I am still in college so I have that experience. Up until this past year I donated a ton of my time to my local high school for both Marching band and indoor percussion. Through that experience it enabled me to talk to kids who were in the process of getting an education at that very moment and what they thought of that experience. I'm also known for hanging out with people over twice my age and a large percentage of those people are involved in the school system one way or another so I have experience there as well. I mean short of being a teacher myself how much more experience do you want me to have Rscalzo? Are you telling me that my multiple occasions of first hand experience is not enough to formulate an opinion. You used that same lame in your cop thread and it's bubkis. I can tell you this though, it's not all the teachers fault and it's not anyone sections fault. The fact that teachers are being forced to teach to a "test" is ridiculous. The fact that parents don't parent anymore is crazy. And like Dan said the way the state allocates money is absurd. But I won't even get into that because that will just get my blood boiling and people will REALLY not like me after I talk about inner city funding. But I ask you this, if everyone else in this state is taking pay cuts and getting laid off heavily why are we not doing this in the public sector. Answer me that!

I knew you'd find your way into this one. The man with the answer to EVERYTHING under the sun. It's not a stereotype, it's first hand knowledge. I know people who are just starting out and I know people who have been teaching for years. And on a whole the teachers who have 30+ years in don't give a crap. They teach the same lesson plan they have been teaching for the past 20 years with barely any changes in it. I also know a lot of teachers who just plan ole hate their job and can't wait for retirement because they are tired of teaching to "the test" And usually Stereotypes are made because it's usually true!

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Big you are absolutely correct. And it also seems to be two type of people crying about this The new teachers who are just getting in who are people my age who are crying foul because this means that these jobs that these kids expected to get with the ridiculous salaries are no longer there so their gravy train may never arrive. And the older teachers who don't give a crap anymore and just show up for a paycheck. But then there are some new teachers middle teachers and old teachers who in fact still love their job and do care about the kids but they are far and few between it seems. And Hodgie you were spot on man

West Milford HS librarian - 21 years - 100,700 Supervisor of Athletics who is one of the laziest SOB's I've ever met - 124,800 27 years In-school suspension teacher - 7 years ready to fall off your chair - 52,000 a year HOLY CRAP

I apologize John my information was slightly off. Here is the updated information. Experience District 5 years Experience New Jersey 9 years Experience Total 9 years SALARY $74,240 Employment 10 Months Job Code 1607 Job 1 Health & Physical Education FTE 8 Job 2 Driver Education Certified? N Certificate Standard Grade Level High School Highly Qualified? Doesn't need to be highly qualified Classes Taught 5 So Person A teachers 5 classes throughout the day, last time I checked thats NOT a full 8 hours of work. They teach Health and Physical Education and Drivers Ed and makes 74k dollars a year. And your gonna tell me that person A has a ton of papers to grade at home etc. Keep dreaming dude! Don't get me wrong, West Milford has more administrators than we do teachers and one of the people I know is trying to get onto the board to get rid of this bullcrap. But if you think your going to place all the blame on Unions and Admins thats not right either because these teachers are getting their pie and eating it to. Also don't forget that most of them get a $5 prescription plan regardless of how much it actually costs along with an extremely low co-pay for doctors as well. And like what was mentioned above, I know a lot of people who are salaried employees who are being forced to work 10 hour days because if they don't they get fired. But don't worry teachers don't have to worry about that because they get tenures. Teachers are practically just as bad as politicians in my book!

Trust me, the teachers are making way more than they deserve and getting a pension to boot it just doesn't add up. For example we shall call said person A. A is a Gym Teacher in Essex County. She has 3 years on said job and has not finished her masters. A will get her masters degree this coming spring. Now for a Gym Teacher what would you thing Person A would make for a year's salary. Now mind you, person A does not work year round, get some of the best health benefits known to man so what should said person make. 40k, 50k dollars seems reasonable to me. HAHAHAHAHAHAH I make jokes sometimes. Try 80k a year to be a flippin Gym Teacher. And I will be you top dollar she'll get another 10k dollar raise as soon as her masters kicks in. So to tell me this isn't a Teacher problem either is a crock of shit!

So I was just on Facebook and I am so tired of this teachers continually crying like the world is coming to an end because of the cuts Christie has proposed. Each of them cry that it's all about the kids and the kids are doomed etc. This is my new status on FB: To every Crybaby teacher on FB, I urge each and everyone of you to call both your Union Rep and Christie and tell them that you would like to forfeit your undeserved pension so that the KIDS you scream about can get the proper education that you continue to scream about, but I know you won't because this has nothing to do with the kids, it has EVERYTHING to do with your sense of entitlement and your pockets. WAKE UP! The state has no money, and that gravy train you have grown use to is empty! This has nothing to do with the kids, all they are concerned about is themselves and their entitlement!

DA that would require Gov't to use common sense.

Sure, we need someone to bring us ammo

I'm out for Sunday, I will be in South Jersey in DW heaven!

If your not still sick

Of course the night I'm flippin not there its a freaking brass party!! Buh whatever, I'll make it next time and all the brass is MINE!!!!!!!!!!!!

She's not your wife yet, your allowed to share pictures still!!

Oh the stories you two will have for your children.

Clever! Was this so that she had no chance but to say Yes since she couldn't run away since she was naked? I always knew there had to be a reason someone would say yes to you Pete!! haha j/k bud

Agree! Bob if you won't take the bubba out hunting, I'll be more than happy to take her out for you!!

I had to make sure he was home safe before I threw him under the bus. You have no idea how hard it was for me to resist before!

ohhhh man smacking your teeth on the floor, I bet you look even better than you did before. I bet you wife was just standing there going, why did I marry this man!! Then she looked down at that bundle of joy I gave you guys and she goes oh right, so Matt and I can run off to a foreign island with all of his money Glad to hear your doing better Chad!!! Don't go getting sick on me, I need to to show up to work so you can pad my trust fund!!

I'm not even sure if I want to post in this thread but because it's late and my brain is fried I'm going to. Your 24, I'm 24. I'm not sure if your in school, but I am. I know I work my butt off so I can afford the things I enjoy. But for you to think that 200 dollars for a club that will allow you to shoot, pistol, rifle @ 100, 200, 300 yards along with a silhouette range and a shotgun/trap range is over priced because you can go to PA and pay 15 dollars each time you go. How does that make sense. I mean I can see if you only like to shoot 5 times a year but I know I shoot like 30 times a year. Plus you need to do research on who supports your gun rights in NJ. If you don't think ANJRPC isn't the biggest supporter of your gun rights, go look at the latest news. Yeah they are the ones that are trying to get the OGAM removed. But I agree it comes down to personal opinion and if you don't want to Join CR thats fine, it gives me more room at the ports. Enjoy your shooting in PA M

Where is this place you speak of, I haz never been

HEH I just had something in my email about that stupid smart gun technology crap.

LITTLE BUDDY DON'T SCARE ME LIKE THAT!!!! Glad to hear your back home, give us an update when you can!!