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I'm not really into AR's, but I think they are a part of firearms history and here to stay. It is what you make of it. I had a somewhat similar, although the guy was pretty nice. I was shooting my K-31 with clamp on scope mount and a guy from my club shows up with a custom built target AR, He was explaining to me all the stuff he did to it, and in my head I was adding up the prices.. I think it came out to around $3500.. Anyways.. he was explaining how on a good day he can get sub-moa out of it and yadda yadda yadda. I'n my head, I'm laughing because I just shot a 1 MOA group with a high power rifle cartridge (similar to .308).. out of a $300 62 year old gun with a $100 scope on it. We actually shot each other's guns and it was nice, but just not my cup of tea. There really is something special about shooting an old military gun that kicks you in the shoulder like a mule and you think about who carried it, and who they might have had to shoot at. But then on the other hand, some people don't care for that and want an AR. Just make the best of it and do what you want

Welcome!

Nice collection so far!

Does the fiber force stock count as a pistol grip in NJ?

Interesting! They have 10 round AK mags which are made out of 30 rounders... too bad they dont have 15's

no offense but i completely disagree... i shoot my 12 gauge mossberg all the time and i can hit targets within handgun range.. and with DEVASTATING impact... i actually find the pistol grip shotgun VERY manageable.. plus maneuverability in small tight areas is key.. sure i have a glock.. but in the home.. from me to the hallway.. im %100 sure i could hit a man sizer target.. and im willing to bet ONE hit with buckshot will be all thats needed to end any "situation".... plus... not that this would apply to many people.. but its also an excellent back up breaching weapon.. as it is small enough to be slung over the shoulder and pulled when needed for entry into light level doors.. Plus they look completely awesome!

Actually, the asterisk isn't entirely true. The Steyr M95 and the Carcano also use clips which are needed for more than one shot. Probably others as well.

Ambulance! :evil: :evil:

Maybe you where misinformed about some small pistols which are not allowed to be imported into the country. For instance, the G25 and G28 which are .380. They don't meet the federal laws to qualify for importation. But as others have said, any "compact" model that is either made in the country, or is already here, is fair game. Did you ever see how small the Ruger LCP is? You could just about shoot your own finger off with it

Well you could simplify it a bit more and say that magazines are spring loaded where as clips are not.

A Lawyer advised my friend NOT to file for a CCW in NJ. It will be denied, and then on future pistol permit applications, and possibly other legal documents, you have to answer "Yes" to the "Have you ever been denied" question. Which will then add time to the already long wait.

Thanks for the left handed complement Welcome

http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/trading-po ... tucky.html Here is one for $445, but it would depend on your dealer's transfer fee if you could get it under $500.

+1. I was really surprised at how easy it was to get them extended.

Sorry.. I know what is legal and what is not. I should have clarified. It was a Mossberg 500 Just in Case Model. A pump. 5+1. 18.5inch barrel. Nothing illegal about it. The guy got rude and then said, "We had some incidents, and we are not going to send them to NJ, just like we don't send Glocks to Maryland, even if they are legal there".. Well that's fine bud, but I'm not sending my cash to you ever again, even if it is legal.

How do you like it there? How long have you been a member? I would love to shoot there b/c its so damn close to me, just seems pricey and a lot of rules / requirements. A place that close would get me back to shooting, I don't have the time to spend a few hours between the drive and range time right now. The OB Range is literally 5 min away, I am pretty sure I live in the middle of the indoor and outdoor ranges 8-) I like it, I've been a member for probably a year almost. The rules aren't that bad. During the probationary period, you just have to go to 5 different events, participate in 2. It's not really a big deal. For the 3 you don't need to participate in, you just spend an hour talking to people and get the idea of the event. For the two you have to do, you can pick them. So you can shoot clays for an hour, go to a uspsa match, or any of the other junk. Once you do that and pay up, your a regular member and that's it. Basically the rules look like a lot, but it really only comes down to 2 things 1. Safety Safety Safety Safety.. and 2. Clean up after yourself. The indoor range is 24 hours.. and I've gone there plenty of times where nobody else was there. The outdoor range, I believe its half hour after sunrise to half hour before sunset.. 7 days a week. Also, I've gone to the range and nobody was there. It's nice on the 100 yard range when its only you. It gets busy when a match is held, but they are published like 3 months in advance, and they usually wrap up pretty quickly so it can get back to open shooting.

+1 on the XD, I have a 9mm 4" and I love the thing. Never had one bit of problem with it. It was my first gun. The only thing I did was put some paint on the sights. Look on XDTalk.com and gunbroker. Sometimes you can get a decent deal. Springfield seems to honor their lifetime warranty even if you are not the original owner, as long as its obvious you didn't abuse it. No guarantees about that, but its the consensus. Sub-2000's are a bit hard to come by, and if you do find one, you have to look at the magazine for which it is configured. I had a Sub2k with the Glock 19 hand grip and the thing was a jam-o-matic. I sent it back to the factory, and they had horrible customer service. It took a long long time for it to come back and still be broken. They refused to pay for shipping back to them, so I finally gave up and traded it. That's my two sense.. a lot of people on the internet have had great experiances with Kel-tec, so take it for what it's worth. So I vote for the Hi-Point if those are your only two options.

I have a model 66 which looks similar. Your stocks are nicer though. It kicks like a mule because its basically a pipe on a stick.. but it is pretty accurate on the trap range. It swings really nicely.

Nope.

But why would a cop need to stop you if you were just loading stuff in your car? I don't get the question.

Minimum 18 Inch barrel, 26 inches overall length (Federal Laws) No magazines over 15 rounds (NJ Laws) Other than that.. on a pump shotgun.. go nuts with features and tactical accessories.

Being a bad gun owner I clean my guns right before I go to the range and let them marinate in spent gun powder in their cases till I'm ready to go to the range again. Could that have any negative effects? Corrosion, finish damage, etc? don't shoot corrosive ammo

Head's Up.. They will NOT ship pistol gripped shotguns to NJ. Placed an order for one, and got an email saying they don't ship to NJ. Called up and the guy was a jerk about it. Took about 10 days to get the money back on my card.

My friends is horrible as well.

I just purchased it $127.96. Below is a copy from the receipt: Item total: $119.96 Shipping and handling: $8.00 Total: $127.96 USD There is a special until August. I will post a review when I receive it. That's a much more competitive price. I guess they were just getting set up when I clicked.