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So my theory still stands.... NJ, fearing the wrath of the SCOTUS. Will issue that poor little whiney character Drake guy, an Unrestricted, all out, NJ Carry Permit. Then Drake goes into sunset. We need active restricted NJ "carry" permit holders w threats against them or having been a victim somehow, to come forward. Jus sayin....

I guess certain states can learn from Detroit's New PROGRESSIVE policies? http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5Vbmp5xfzBg Then again, maybe not still....

Ok. I will pose this Question one more time. What IF, Hypothetically, Let's Pretend, Imagine, Hypothesize....That Drake finally receives his NJ Bona Fide Carry Permit and Drake takes his Permit and goes back to doing what hes doing. Hypothetically now, What happens next??? Also, I am hearing some NJ Fudd talk bout 'this will never happen. SCOTUS will never grant cert. They declined all the other case, they'll decline this too....etc, etc.' A bit disconcerting, but better to be prepared.

Still, this does not preclude NJ from pulling yet another "fast one" on it's potential journey into the SCOTUS. QUESTION: What would happen if NJ again pulls a 'fast one' and grants Mr. John Drake a REAL NJ Carry Permit? I doubt Drake would say, 'Oh no NJ, too late, I decline, I'm gona pursue this on principle....'

How about an actual NJ "carry" permit holder, the kind w the 'restrictions' on it, go pursue this case as well? How about if that individual and restricted permit holder rec'd threat(s) via an actual robbery, all documented and still cannot get an unrestricted carry permit. I know of such an individual(s). How can said individual be entered into, or assist this case in any meaningful way??

QUESTION: What if NJ ALL of a Sudden.... Just grants Drake an actual bona.fide NJ carry permit?? Seeing the SCOTUS looming in the distance.

I really and Truly HOPE NJ loses this one Flat on its Face. Really, Truly, from the Bottom of my Heart.... Generations of monkeying around w the US Constitution and the Principles of which serious Blood was shed. I mean look at it this way. LOTS of people Died for it and certain states are not only monkeying with it, certain states are down right making a MOCKERY of it. I call it what it is, I make NO apologies. Here's a tube vid, 1st one I believe, regarding this issue: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aRK6UYBUU98 Thanks and Good Luck to the NJ folks not given over to decades long brain-washing and fear conditioning. Godspeed....

What is the latest on this??? I have my NH License set to expire end of this April. I have a "restricted" NJ carry 'permit' along w a current and valid FL CCW. I read in usacarry.com that as a NJ res renewing, you can send in the NJ 'carry permit, OR a valid non-res permit that a New Jersian may hold, such as a copy of your FL CCW. What to do!?!?

A couple of fit guys with swords and a movie theater in the US and they would have killed more.

Well..... NJ thinks this is their version of "common sense" so tough.

Cool.... I'm one of the "1195".

Theres alot of hooplah from you NJ folks and thats understandable due to your State's brainwash excersize for all these generations, for lack of a better description. However, I would not just look at this NJ 'tree' and look at the whole forest and its impact. While this eliminates those faulty Circuit court rulings it may only cause NJ to practice more shady court hustling by drafting laws regs that are a continuation of their "progressive matrix of collective public safety". Basically, NJ may craft laws and regs that continue their regime of ctrl and try their best to make it 'lawsuit proof'.

Folks, Best way to defeat Sweenie is to use their own radical left wing fantasite utopianist tactics against them from their own playbook. A. Present a seemingly anti-2A candidate for election in NJ. Once in office, this "Democratic" candidate all of a sudden is PURE UNABASHED HARDCORE PRO-2A. B. Dig up as much dirt as possible on Sweenie and toss in some name calling here and there. C. Invent imaginary 'boogeymen' like they do w the Ooooo, "NRA" ahhhh...... and tell people you must vote for this candidate or else the boogeymen will get you.

I heard our sun is getting cooler....

I do not like their hats. Its ambiguously ghey-ish. As in that guy from the Village People. Its supremely tough to break into NJ LE. Get ready for years of trying to only end up disappointed. Inhave notbreally applied years ago to any NJ LE except NJSP and was 'on track' to go further, before I was sidetracked w another career choice. Now, I kick myself, EVERYDAY.

"The carry permit law is distinct from laws that provide enhanced punishment for persons who commit crimes with guns or other deadly weapons, which are also part of the careful grid. Id. at 568-69. As the discussion that follows demonstrates, the carry permit law is one of the regulatory provisions of the firearms laws designed to protect the public before any harm is caused. The regulatory provisions address the danger of serious injury inherent in the ownership and carrying of firearms." In other words, ascribing to NJ's Gospel of 'Public Safety'. We must PRE-EMPT any potential for firearms damage to maintain Utopia. And in keeping alive this "careful grid" aka draconian anti-Constitutional boundaries in and 'unique' to NJ. Therefore the distinction is between the state and its reps, like cops and such, vs. NJ citizens (which are screwed by the pure fiat of the courts) so NJ LE apparently never does wrong with their guns. I can point to several cases where they have and recent. However, they do not fall under the pre-emption category. Classic 'statist' approach to Judicial 'reasoning' in NJ. Revealing a fear and loathing of just the 'Potential' alone. If its no big deal, then its no big deal. But im afraid NJ is beyond paranoid atbthis point...

The way things are looking. This seems to be a trend in stabbing of the back of reciprocity. Politicians who cant get votes for certain 'agendas will decree by fiat instead.

What if not a house? What if Apt, Condo, tower setup? Elevators? Gunsmith is on 4th floor in Suite A??? What if you are in a Korman Suites, on the other hand, 'regular' hotels I would venture, no. More over it says "place of business". So, as you are walking fron your "place of business", to your car, you cross 150 yards of parking lot also in path of a pizza shop along the way. Resdiences. What if you have TWO or maybe even 3 residences in NJ? Just trying to illustrate the utterly UN-'common sense-icle' law. WHAT are they REALLY trying to say???

Now here's a 'twist'..... What about the above said circumstances EXCEPT, walking TO AND FROM the car, truck, SUV???

We need more like him on this side of the river. Scary to some. Justice to me.

I help relatives drive a Penske truck to Georgia. It really is brutal. I know someone who just moved to NC, from NJ... HUGE new house, near lakefront property. And they're loving it. And they are gun friendly, which means they will be Right At Home in NC.

Here we go, yet again.... NJ Supreme Court once again will be grandstanding and setting a trap to make a mockery of individual liberties via shady, unlawful rationalisation, condensation, incrementalistic tactics, severe 'interest balancing' approach, oath violating fiasco. If they could crucify Jesus, they would do it all over again. Sheesh........

Damn... IL (of all places) now makes NJ politicians look like anti-christ communist satanic liberals. But, we know they already are....

Yup. Ridiculous BEYOND any and ALL human comprehension. Mine as well 're-attach' NJ w England again.

The 96% or whatever NJ "carry" permits dont even allow your to "carry" hardly AT ALL anyway. How do I know??? I have one.