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Sort of resembles a Blaser LRS stock in the front half. That stock, plus one of the TN gun works heavy barrels ad good scope and some custom hand loads would make for a nice long range shooter on a budget.

No. IT doesn't really produce a superior cleaning to any tumbling method and your batch sizes are a lot smaller too. Ok for maybe 50 rounds of rifle, but not if you do any sort of bulk shooting/reloading.

You should try it, its comical how light you can safely make them. I made up a bunch of 38's and 357's with TB and 158gr LSWC bullets and chrono'd them out of my 686 and MArlin 1894. The velocities on the low end of the charge weights are so slow, you can see the bullet go downrange if you back up and shoot 15 yards or more. We were shooting the 357 loads on the rifle range at a 8" plate at 200 yards from a sandbag and making hits so they're still quite accurate, although the holdover was somewhat 'mortar-like'. Even with the slightly higher 357 velocities we could see the bullet cross over from one side of the spotting scope and land on target on the plate. 357mag 3.7gr TB: 747 fps avg from 6" revolver 357mag 3.7gr TB: 861 fps avg from Marlin carbine 38 spl 2.7gr TB: 615 fps avg from 6" revolver 38 spl 3.0gr TB: 685 fps avg from 6" revolver 38 spl 3.3gr TB: 724 fps avg from 6" revolver 38 spl 2.7gr TB: 739 fps avg from Marlin carbine 38 spl 3.0gr TB: 795 fps avg from Marlin carbine 38 spl 3.3gr TB: 845 fps avg from Marlin carbine

A little loose isn't a bad thing. A little more tolerance in the parts will often impart larger reliability as it will accomodate being run dirty and ammo that may have larger dimensional variances. For example, I have a DW pointman 45 and its is bank vault TIGHT and because of that it is highly finicky with ammo it its not just right. If the mag is too tight or the gun is too dirty, feeding becomes the bigest issue as rounds come to a screeching halt during feeding. The gun does doesn't have the wiggle room to recover from a 3-point jam. Even after 1500 rounds I've had to sent it back to DW once for them to give it a once over "port and polish" to get things running smoother. After that it is a lot more tolerant and reliable but i still consider it more of a match grade range toy than all weather fighting weapon. My STI spartan, OTOH, is a little more loose and runs everything you throw at it even after upwards of 1000 rounds without a cleaning (barrel or frame rails). I wouldn't even remotely dream of doing that with the DW!

Shh! Rule # 1 of fight club is we don't talk about fight club! lol

pm'ing you.

Are you reloading now? I know i could use some misc items but not sure if anyone other than powder valley carries VV powders.

lol Don't mind Alec. He's poor. and bitter. and poor.

Does browning make a heavy barreled "bench rest" type gun similar to the Savage 12 series? I'm looking at the Savage 12LRP in 6.5 creedmoor and ive always enjoyed my other browning products and the 60* bolt is a nice feature so i thought i would see what's available from them. They appear to be mostly hunting rifles and some medium weight barrels but not much to compare the the Savage 12 LRP. Any thoughts?

That was put there to appease Harry Reid and the NRA. The house is gonna be pissed!

Well Dilbert, how about them 22 scores, eh? After my gun went kaboom, i want to personally thank you for letting me use your rifle. And beat you with it. I can't wait for the next one!

Oh buy, could you imagine the day that your 10 round SKS stripper clip is federal contraband that would land you in 'pound me in the ass' prison? As ridiculous as all the arbitrary gun restrictions go, the notion that that small piece of sheet metal is so evil it must be federally banned is especially laughable. lol

I have a set of 5, 10 round butler creek *STEEL* lips mags that i've been using with 2 10/22's over the last 5 years to the tune of about 15,000 rounds collectively so far. They've worked perfectly since day one in both guns and continue to function without a hitch despite not being able to disassemble them. To clean them, you can use 22 magazine brush to get down in there and scrub them out if needed though i have rarely done this over the course of me owning them.

Ask mossberg when the mvp in 308 comes out and what mags it will use.

Yeah, standing on the Wobbley bridge is a piece of cake (unless you are shooting a shot gun with heavy recoil). it's getting onto the bridge that is the real challenge.

Yeah, works to annoy the RO. Lol!

Uh oh, ray ray has a scorned beau. ray ray says to meet him under the old oak tree in pit 3 at high noon.

I'm out of beer! :lol

On bigger ranges you can drive your vehicle out. At CJ we have a 2 and 300 yard ranges and on both we can drive out since you have to lug all your own targets and steel with you to set up.

I'm not even talking about the explicitly fruity beers where fruit actually is added as an adjunct. Aside from an occasional Belgian, i don't care much for the explicit fruit/vegetable beer category either. In a traditional beer, malt and hops control the sweetness and bitterness respectively. How you perceive those levels of flavor is basically relative to thier amounts and also how thier ratios create chemicals the brewing process that form new flavors. Citrus and pine are common flavors you find in an IPA, but no one is dumping grapefruits and pinecones in the brew kettle to achieve that, its all just subtle notes. But based on the beers you mention, we're actually talking about the same thing. Bocks, marzens(octobers) are all HEAVY malt sweet beers, even more preceiveably so than any imperial ale due to the heavy dark malts they use, but again, i wouldn't call them fruity because while fruity = sweet, sweet != fruity.

Beer, i assure you. If you're used to drinking BMC, there's a lot of high malt content berrs out there with intense body and sweetness. Now, its all relative to the context since we're not talking sugar water. Porters, bocks, imperial stouts, imperial ales all have a large amount of malt sugar that remains even after fermentation. So while they are not like drinking tropicana pure premium, they are definitely sweet compared to a dry old world pilsner.

We have old man pick up sticks for the low lying steel if that makes any difference.

Just got back from a beer run and am finally sitting down with a bomber of Firestone Walker Double Jack Imperial IPA. She's a big old sweetie whose got a massive caramel malty goodness that, combined with the citrousy hops, gives a huge tropical fruit punch in the face. These guys can do no wrong.

Thanks buddy! I know i can always count on your support.

I have some 3 Floyds Zombie Dust and possibly Gumballhead coming. Interested in some horsetrading?