JonF

Me on my KTM catching a little air off some berm down in the pines.

Another Monmouth member here, as the others said, super close and never busy and you can shoot all your modern long guns there with no issue. Welcome!

When you word your reasoning on the form, make sure it reads like the availability of the guns you're interested in is rather volatile either in thier envelope of availability or your timeframe to acquire as a COLLECTOR. If you word it as "i would just be convenient if it could acquire these in one transaction...", they may deny you as there are reports here of folk starting to get denied where exercising OGAM would suffice in that situation. Since you are dealing with an estate sale, there could be potential "competitive buyers" or a urgent deadline for the estate to dispose of the collection which may be the case in your situation.

OGAM is for handguns only. Should be called OHAM to be accurate.

I'm in.

In that auction they show two crates in one pic and the lower one (not the one for sale) it has an interesting stencil on the box resembling a scope reticule. I won if its a case of snipers...

Tony, it seems your issue is fairly common for H&R slug guns. Searching around it seems others just go with HIGH rings for clearance and even the sample pic on H&R's own site shows a scoped gun with a lot more daylight under the scope thus confirming that higher rings are pretty much a necessity for larger scopes like yours. If you had a smaller scope with slimmer features, you might get away with having the hammer spur tucked just under the ocular piece if it clears the full throw. You'll most likely need to also install an extended side hammer spur to aid in cocking the hammer.

Joe, i think he was merely giving an example of a known safe backstop/range design, specifically the layout the police use when constructing theirs. You don't necessarily need to build it exactly the same way, but perhaps using it as s guide when putting your own range together would be helpful.

I know 4000 heads sounds like a lot now but once you start reloading, you'll burn through those a *lot* faster than you think. I've used up one 4K rnd case this spring alone just doing a couple matches a month plus practice and such. Just something to consider.

All targets shot at 50 yards.

I've not done any long range work with a 15-22 but i've had several rugers in various configurations from stock to benchrest wild and they all will provide a high level of accuracy depending on the configuration. My bull barreled benchrest gun was boring accurate and consistent. My current rifle is more of a simple lightweight plinker/steel challenge build and will bang a 8x8" steel plate at 100 yds all day long with just a 3 MOA red dot.

Very nice. Recalling your post as inspiration, I recently picked up 7 different ammo's for my Savage 22mag to try a similar test. I shot each at 25 then 50 to see how the groups would open up. 25 was hard to tell apart the premium ammo's but at 50 they started to show thier qualities. I tried host of 40gr and 30gr loads and categorically, the 30gr loads were all much tighter (and naturally faster--i chrono'd them all at the same time). I had nice groups with the hornady 30gr VMax, cci 30 gr and also the Federal TNT 30gr loads with the Federal and Hornady producing the tightest groups consistently. Honorable mention went to Winchester Supreme 34gr for a budget load since it shot one rather tight group but it just wasn't consistent enough. I've got pics of the targets/groups if you're interested.

6.1 of WSF under a 115gr 9mm pill? Christ, whats that, like 140 PF? That's way over minor PF by anyone's definition. Does your pistol have ejection issues or something?

Hey, its saturday, its my day off. How about you get to work then, eh?

There were two in the pic alone, not sure how many were still lying in the dirt undiscovered. Come on, of course i was being facetious!

It wasn't loaded this way, the appearance of these shells are a result of firing a small cartridge (9mm) in a chamber much larger (.40S&W) and so the brass expands to the dimensions of the larger chamber. In the rifle world, this is actually a viable method to convert some caliber of common brass to a more obscure derivative of it and its called "fire forming". In fire forming, the dimensional difference is usually limited to expanding the case mouth or reshaping the shoulder, both a very marginal percentage, never ballooning the case body though (AFAIK).

You may be onto something. Not only did he load the wrong caliber, but he loaded them backwards so they bulge at the mouth! So then i suppose the shell gets gets fired and the bullet gets ejected? =@

Disclaimer - it wasn't me. /Shaggy Was sitting here sorting some range pickup brass and pulled these two funny looking buggers out of the pile. I wonder how many rounds this fella lit off before realizing he was shooting 9's out of his 40. Think they'll resize? I didn't realize a 9mm cartridge would get retained in a 40 magazine. Someone lent me a mag for my 9mm CZ once and accidentally handed me a 40 cal mag and it was immediately apparent when the ammo wouldn't stay put. I guess they could have used 9mm mag in a 40 cal gun.

Like Ronny and Luis said, you'll see them a lot at matches since they're very prominent in competition circles. Its unfortunate that you don't see them in everyday usage but since thier "cheap" guns, the Spartan and the Trojan cost about $650 and $1000 respectively, you see a lot more Kimbers, Springers, Rocks, and Smith's in the gunshops. The rest of the STI lineup is significantly more expensive and competition oriented so they tend to get passed over for folks wanting casual shooters or even carry items (although they seem to cater to that too with items the are seemingly competitive with Brown, Baer and Wilson). The point is that they are great guns but seem to be pigeonholed in a niche market that limits thier exposure. I'm currently trying to decide on a Spartan, Trojan and maybe the Ruger for a Single Stack shooter but the STI guns get the nod since they're generally set up for competition shooting from the start.

Case closed.

Inertial pullers are ok for taking down one or two cartridges but a pain in the a** for any more than that. Get a cam-lock style puller that mounts in your press. You can remove bullets very easily and very quickly and the components are still reusable.

Come on, its meant to be tongue-in-cheek.

i've had my two submissions returned in 2 weeks.

I'll be there sunday. Hope the weather holds out!