JonF

Hk Mk 23

Like they say, you don't have to outrun the bear, you just have to outrun the other guy!

JG also claims to have Bulgarian Makarov's for just pennies more if you'd be interested in the gun originally chambered in 9x18. I have one and its a very finely crafted firearm. You don't often find a dealer with a cache of true Mak's and i haven't seen such inventory for a number of years. CZ82's, OTOH, are always in stock somewhere. Personally, if i had only 1 permit to burn, id get the Mak for its collectbility then consider the CZ later if you still like the 9x18 round and have another permit to burn. http://www.jgsales.com/index.php/handguns/makarov/cPath/16_151

And murder holes. Always need more murder holes.

I just tested 3 varieties of S&B i had on hand in 9mm luger, 9mm mak and 38 spl and non attracted my magnet to the bullet (one of those craftsman telescoping small part picker-uppers so its fairly strong).

S&B does have a line of steel cased ammo that, while not common, could mistaken for its brass counterpart and many ranges prohibit steel case for the lack of scrap value.

huh? what happened? looks like there might be some sort of cast under there? everything ok?

i think he meant 1880's back when they raced steam cars. *plinkety-plink-plinkety-plink-plinkety-plink*

I'd buy and split one case, maybe two with some firm commitment from someone here whose rep i know, but there's no way in hell i'm fronting $1800 worth of bullets for random dudes on the net. are you crazy?

Those are good prices--however they apoarently require a 6 case minimum order for the discount. :eek:

Whats with the tiles? Did you bring your new guns to Kindergarten show-n-tell??

So do you know something or or not?

what exact calibers are you looking for and how many do you want? For most of the MG bullets, they sell by the 1000 but there is no discount. If you buy a case (2-3000 depending on size of caliber), there are substantial discounts to be had and in the past, folks will buy a case and split it up in roughly 1000 bullet groups.

I'm looking to buy some 125gr .357 JHP's and 158gr .357 JHP's for 38/357. Maybe some 240gr JSP 44 mags as well. I'd like to order the case quantity for the discount but don't need 8000 bullets right now. Anyone want to go in on some bullet buys?

Funny, I just did a complete cleaning of my S&W 686 last night including removing the side plate for the first time ever. She has about 1500 rounds through her of mixed calibers and while i clean the barrel and cyl, i;ve never cleaned or lubed the action. Was simple enough to do and the interior, while not too dirty, was devoid of any sign of lubrication. After hosing the thing down with cleaner and then greasing the action, the trigger pull is slicker than snot now! Wish i woulda done this earlier. Oh and like the others said about the lead cleaning cloths, they work awesome on stainless. Any carbon fouling on the cyl face, sides and top strap is easily removed with a 1x1" square or two of the cloth. Don't use it if your gun is blued as they can strip the finish of as well.

This looks pretty cool! I'm going to try to get down there to spectate for a bit if i can and see what the event is like. Looks like a lot of fun without the pressure of the practical type matches. j0n, are you going down to compete or spectate? gimme a ring if you're gonna be heading down later in the morning.

This is good info to know! Should sticky this or create a post with a collection of local resources and info for reference.

I think I'm gonna aim to be that sure shot around 2 o'clock this afternoon. I just got my reloading equipment up and running so I have a couple starting test loads to try out in 357 and 44 magnum. I hope I don't blow myself up. Come on you slags, who's in?

I think I'm gonna head to sure shot this afternoon to try some of my mexican reloads. Who else is definitely going in what time are you planning on getting there?

During the big Obama Gun Rush of 08, Sportsmans center was the only gun shop to downsize! After closing off the entire section with the apparel and consolidating it into the other half of the building, i thought for sure they were going to close up. Its damn near a ghost town every time i would go in there vs Cheyenne/harrys just a minute down the road where you practically have to take a number. Stuff does tend to be priced higher than average there and i can't say i've ever seen anyone buying a gun there while i was looking around (although thier selection isn't very broad).

Hey Blob, if you're looking to compare some of the more popular AP presses, there is a good document on the net that helped me understand the various features and what they mean to me. I was at cabelas once and saw some presses but since i had no idea what i was looking at, i felt a little overwhelmed as to how to compare them. I was originally going to go with a Dillon due to its brand prominence but then decided on the Hornady for its features once i read through this review. http://www.comrace.ca/cmfiles/dillonLeeHornadyComparison.pdf

MPro-7 Cleans all your guns, both after corrosive and non-corrosive ammo, and be done with rust forever. A little squirt of Eezox (excellent lubricant and protectant) on bare metal to protect until next time and that's it. You've cleaned it, protected it and are now good to go with no extra steps beyond normal gun cleaning procedures. Le Fin.

I'd like an alarm clock that operates the same way. *BZZZZZZZ* *BOOM!* *Snoozzzzz*

If you'd prefer a more modern and way way to clean corrosive residue, get some M-Pro7 cleaner as its rated for cleaning up corrosive primer residue. Since its a detergent type cleaner (foaming action) and not strictly a solvent type (hoppes), it is able to dissolve the corrosive residue quite well. I used to do the water routine, but ended up with the occasional rust bloom if you aren't super meticulous about making sure all the water is cleaned out afterwards. Since i use MPro-7 for all my guns, old and new, I now clean my milsurps like i would any other after a shooting session and have not had even a single rust bloom since. I do make sure to let the barrels sit a bit longer with the chemical applied to make sure the salts and carbon is well dissolved and may use more patches than for modern guns with modern ammo but thats usually because the old corrosive ammo is quite dirty and takes more patches to get fully clean (and i shoot a lot of it since its so cheap). I also give the bore and bolt a quick spritz with an aerosol can of EEZOX since its a great protectant and rust inhibitor. All in all, cleaning up after corrosive ammo doesn't take me much longer than non-corrosive with using more modern solutions and products available today.

What a drag... i've come down hard with some kinda cold and am feeling pretty rugged (even played hookie from work) so i'm not gonna make it out tonight. Shame though, i was looking fwd to meeting some new people. Have fun, girls and boys!