Bob2222

Aren't Flag officers issued a personal sidearm as a badge of rank, which they are able to purchase when they retire? I thought this might explain the reports of older men in uniforms who were seen on security cameras with guns and lead to the reports of three shooters. http://www.army.mil/article/6938/

http://nation.time.com/2013/06/13/when-you-can-kill-in-texas/

If you hit the lottery, why not buy a house in PA, get a PA driver's license and go for the real thing? (AFAIK, PA doesn't restrict any NFA firearms.) (I haven't hit the lottery --- and at $.40-$1.40/round for .223, I still need to at least try to hit the target.) BTW, if the Colt Bulldog is out of budget, this gizmo for the 10-22 is $22.99 at Cabelas and $19.99 at Bass Pro Shops! (At least .22LR is still cheaper than $.40/round!) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2Utck1p6m4

http://www.coltsmfg.com/Catalog/SpecialEditions/1877BulldogGatlingGun.aspx

Maybe it's because we're the only minority group that can still be arrested (or worse) if we come "out of the closet" and go public en masse. The "Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System" survey in 2001 reported 12.3% in New Jersey households own firearms. (My own guess is that it's actually significantly higher, but that's what the survey reported.) The US Census Bureau reports 14.7% of New Jersey residents are Black or African American. Gallup says that 3.7% of NJ residents identify as LGBT. http://www.gallup.com/poll/160517/lgbt-percentage-highest-lowest-north-dakota.aspx

Pennsylvania property taxes are lower. Pennsylvania car insurance rates are lower. Pennsylvania has a 3.07% flat income tax rate. From a 2A perspective, there are about a bazillion reasons why living in Pennsylvania would be a better place to live than either New York or New Jersey.

If (as we hope and the polls suggest) Christie is a shoo-in for reelection --- maybe this has gone underground for a few years. Something like periodical cicadas -- except it won't take 13 or 17 years until it resurfaces. When it resurfaces will there be a Republican or a Democrat in the NJ Governor's office?

True that. Outdoorsmen and hunters tend to live in suburban and rural areas, not in urban municipalities. Convicted felons -- who are ineligible to obtain a NJ FPID -- are more likely to reside in urban municipalities, and not suburban and rural areas. Suburban and rural residents have more disposable income. Minorities are more likely to live in urban areas than in suburban and rural communities. According to Pew, http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank the median net worth for black households in 2011 was $6,446, which does not leave a lot of room for investing in assets like nice guns. There are other factors. However, Loretta Weinberg must think "more guns = more crimes", and that Camden, Trenton and Newark are armed to the teeth with legally purchased guns, and that's why they're more dangerous than Baghdad. Why else would she have introduced the bill? The information available as a result of passing S2720 should show the opposite, even in New Jersey. I suspect that Chris Christie (or one of his aides) also believes this, and that's why Christie was happy to sign the bill. There are plenty of other factors -- but the information should show the opposite of the gun-grabber's conventional wisdom (?), and be an embarrassment. I'm fine with just that.

If this old survey is accurate http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/health/interactives/guns/ownership.html ---12.3%--- Among US states, only Hawaii is lower. If this is accurate. I have my doubts as to how accurate a telephone survey about gun ownership could be. But I don't doubt that firearm ownership is relatively low in NJ compared to most states. For several reasons, firearm ownership in households by suburban and rural municipalities is higher than it is in urban areas. It's the inverse of the violent crime rate. Some NJ municipalities have voting patterns that are more conservative than Texas. While their firearm ownership rates probably aren't quite as high, it would be difficult to to believe that it's as low as it is in the more densely populated areas of the state. http://www.gallup.com/poll/160223/men-married-southerners-likely-gun-owners.aspx Suburban/rural demographic groups are more likely to be gun owners than urban demographic groups. We have parts of the state with a relatively high number of legal guns, and parts of the state where there are relatively few guns, and many of those guns are illegal. It's the "outlaws" in places like Camden, Trenton and Newark who have many of the guns. They probably don't have FPIDs.

The more FPIDs there are in a municipality per household, the lower the violent crime rate. The higher the town's violent crime rate, the fewer FPIDs per household. Not that it's easy anywhere in NJ -- but is it more difficult to obtain a NJ FPID and P2P in a densely populated urban area like Camden, Trenton, New Brunswick, Newark or Jersey City, or in a suburban / rural community (one that has its own police force)? Many of the "better" suburban/rural NJ communities have violent crime rates that are close to 0. http://www.catholic.org/politics/story.php?id=52219 http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf

As I think we all know, the ratio of FPID cards issued divided by the number of households in a municipality should be inversely proportional to the violent crime rate of that municipality. (Even in New Jersey.) That isn't what Loretta Weinberg believes, of course -- or she wouldn't have introduced the bill. http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/bills/BillView.asp?BillNumber=S2720

Is there some way to keep the NJ state legislature inside the fence, too?

Otherwise, it won't happen. The last time the US was invaded was during WWII and it's even less feasible today. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_North_America_during_World_War_II http://www.history.com/topics/battle-of-the-aleutian-islands

If they don't lock the bridges any more, it's just been since this past April. An informal poll suggested that most residents were not enthusiastic about leaving the bridges unlocked. http://blogfinger.net/2013/04/28/ocean-grove-poll-regarding-locking-the-bridges/ I'm generally in bed at midnight, so I can't say for certain what they do right now. The AP boardwalk area is "mostly okay" -- between Memorial Day and Labor Day. I drive down to the beach most days to do my daily 5K, and I include AP during the summer months. During the rest of the year it's iffy. I've been panhandled as far south as the OG Boardwalk Pavilion -- so that's my limit the other 9 months of the year. I'm not worried for my safety -- it's just annoying. I say it's "Monmouth County" when I'm asked. The train is the North Jersey Coast, but before that it was owned by the Central Railroad of New Jersey.

A.) The NJ Transit train line that serves Asbury Park (and down to Bay Head) is the "North Jersey Coast" line. 2.) Some problems have no solutions. The city has been in a downward spiral since the 1970 riots. III.) The Asbury Park Convention Hall has some serious structural problems. (It's one of the "anchors" for Asbury Park's "renaissance".) http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/nj1015.com/files/2013/08/asbury-park-convention-hall.jpg Also true for Asbury Park. One thing that New Jersey has proven is that the economic model for "seaside resort/crime-infested ghetto" doesn't work awfully well. (Interesting that Atlantic City looks to Asbury Park for inspiration.) http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/press/other_counties/article_f0b873a0-be1b-11df-b208-001cc4c002e0.html The geography of the Asbury Park area tends to funnel the AP problems south into Neptune Township (also an Abbott school district), rather than north. Ocean Grove (part of Neptune Township) actually locks the gates on the footbridges across Wesley Lake to Asbury Park at midnight. http://www.asburyparkchamber.com/images/maps/apc_map_2013.jpg

When my kid "furnished" her apartment, we bought her a mattress at Costco. Name brand, but I wasn't impressed by the quality At least it was cheap and she hasn't complained.

When my kid gets together with her HS friends, the Korean tacos are a "must do". http://www.eatmogo.com/ The boardwalk area is (mostly) okay between Memorial Day and Labor Day. I always see a few Class I POs patrolling the boardwalk. My wife was working in Asbury Park during the July 1970 riots. She still reflexively locks the car doors whenever we're driving on Main Street. As was noted above, Main Street/Route 71 is an easy to recognize line of demarcation, at least on the south end of town. http://spotcrime.com/nj/asbury+park http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/nj/asbury-park/crime/

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/11/24/us/suspect-in-washington-shootings-had-past-weapons-convictions.html http://www.nytimes.com/1994/11/23/us/4-at-police-center-in-washington-die-as-gunfire-erupts.html http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/history/hallhonor/miller

Yes ....but. The final version of the bill is badly worded, but as I read it, it didn't ban Hawkeye's Pennsylvania rifle from The Last of the Mohicans. Or the Brown Bess. We can pick this apart (as will the gun grabbers) but he might have done anything - veto, conditional veto, or sign - with the bill with pretty much the same statement. 80% of voters won't care that he vetoed the bill, of the 20% who do care, it won't change many votes. I've been saying for months that we were going to see an amazing ballet performance for a 350 pound guy! I'm just glad it's gone. At least for now. (Sorry about the weight reference -- buy with 1/3 of Americans obese and another 1/3 overweight, this is more of an unfortunate societal norm than an anomaly. I had even suggested that he have the surgery as an offhand comment. Props to the Governor for at least fessing up to his surgery rather than lying about it which is probably more common among politicians and celebrities.)

I was listening to WABC news this morning and the only mention was of the medical marijuana bill which they got exactly backwards. (Only low information reporters and editors must be at work on Saturday!) At the very least, this gives us a few years to find a life in an American state if New Jersey doesn't come to it's senses before that.

OMG -- in effect -- he DID! Christie is an unlikely poster boy for the Second Amendment -- but stranger things have happened. I'm very pleasantly surprised. He's exceeded my expectations, and the last politician who did that was Ronald Reagan. Thanks to all those who let him see that the intensity of 2A supporters is much stronger than that of the gun grabbers.

That's about what we've been saying here for the last few months. (Maybe Murray is reading the NJ Gun Forum!) I'd feel better if the source was someone closer to the big guy. (Any proposed changes in the bills don't need to be acceptable to us. They just need to be unacceptable to Buono and the rest of the NJ Assembly and Senate gun grabbers.) As long as it's easier for a Trenton gangster to obtain a PA driver's license than it is for any of us to get a NJ FPID and P2P this is all a waste of time and an example of "feel good" legislation at its worst.

Are you suggesting that voter turnout among gun owners won't go up in 2016 after Sandy Hook? (That's presuming that the Republicans nominate a pro-2A candidate and the Democrats nominate an anti-2A candidate.) I also beg to differ, because post election data suggests that voter turnout among gun owners went down significantly between 2008 and 2012. Romney signed the Massachusetts AWB; Obama was generally believed to be anti-gun but he made no anti-gun moves until Sandy Hook, after the election. Llewelyn Moss didn't see much difference, IMO. If gun owners had felt threatened in November 2012 and come out to vote, NV (6) CO (9) IA (6) WI (10) MI (16) OH (18) PA (20) VA (13) FL (29) NH (4) and ME (4) might have shifted from blue to red. If all those states had flipped it would have meant 221 blue/ 317 red -- or Romney in a landslide. I don't think Christie can win the Republican nomination if he doesn't veto at least Sweeney's bill, and even if he did manage to win the Republican nomination without vetoing, Llewelyn Moss would sit out the election. Again. And we'd see a repeat of 2012.

I'm pretty confident he's already decided. It's not at all like Christie to just slink away and let the bills quietly become law. I'm guessing he'll say some stuff that's interesting enough to be quoted on the Sunday morning news shows. (I would like him to give a veto speech holding a Barrett .50 rifle over his head like Charlton Heston -- but I don't think that's going to happen.)

The Trenton Times endorsed Corzine in 2009 so the odds are they won't endorse him no matter what he does. An attaboy from NJ.com is worth less than nothing. It will encourage the 2A supporters to stay home and not win over any liberal voters. Maybe the Times editorial board feels confident that he'll veto the bills, but want to produce a record before they endorse Buono, and before she loses in a landslide. I am not comfortable that Christie will veto all of the remaining bills, starting with the .50 BMG ban bill that he says he favors. I think he might still "conditionally" veto Sweeney's bill, though. BTW has anyone ever managed to hit a moving airplane target with a .50 BMG Barrett rifle? Not from an M2 -- 1 round shot from a rifle? Seems like an incredible shot.