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Four. I thought the six might be too heavy for me.

Also, he didn't ask me to put anything down on it, only if I wanted to, and I gave him the $200 because he and his wife seemed like nice people.

Hey, thanks, everybody. No, I didn't pay him in full. I gave him $200. He's been in business there for a long time. My brother knew about him. Ed's was close by to my house. That's why I went there. I had heard the 617 was a popular model, but this is ridiculous

Hello, boys! It's me again. A few months ago I ordered the above .22 revolver from Ed's Gun Shop on Cooper Rd., but he says it's still on backorder. Has anyone heard anything about why there's so long a wait for this gun? I researched but couldn't find anything. Meanwhile, I've had to get an extension on my permit to purchase. Blah.

You guys are the best! <3 (That's not "less than 3". It's a "heart emoticon.) The .22 revolver I'm thinking of buying weighs 41 oz. That'll be less twitchy in my hands than the Sig was, won't it? The Sig was so light my aim was reactive to every little hand tremor. Shouldn't I be able to keep a revolver steadier? I'm almost afraid to look up the Storm on the Internets.......

Why doesn't my little linky work? Here it is again. http://www.mistystar.com/misc/pez/0002.html

Hi, babydolls! Well, I finally shot some guns, gentlemen--no, not in the optometrist's office, but at the range. Yesterday morning I rode to Ft. Dix with a friend (Greg) and his dad. My workout started in their truck. Technically the cab seated only two people, so I had to wedge myself in between the two men by sitting on the skinny seat in the middle. Since all of us were thin the ride should have been comfortable, but I had nothing to hold onto or steady myself with during turns except my abs, which were engaged practically the whole half hour to Pemberton. Also, the coffee cup holders were built-in down by the floor, so I had to turn my feet out in second position, ballerina-style, to avoid knocking over the Starbucks. When we got to the range, with relief I let my core muscles sag and hobbled around trying to straighten out my ankles while Greg and his dad set up two targets and brought out four guns. The first gun Greg had me try was a .22 Sig Mosquito. Boys of the Gun Forum: there are a lot of buttons and bows on semis, aren't there! Press the round button, the magazine falls out. Flick the one switch, the hammer moves. Flick the other switch....something, something, something happens, I forget what. And then there was racking the slide. All these steps. Aiming and shooting was the least stressful action for me when handling the Sig. And then it kept jamming, so I had to keep racking in order to unjam. And filling the magazine--I thought it would be as easy as filling a Pez dispenser--http://www.mistystar.com/misc/pez/0002.html But it was a lot harder than that. Then Greg handed me the .22 shot gun. That thing weighed at least 20 pounds. I weigh 110. It was almost impossible for me to hold that gun out in front if me. I needed to use not only my abs, but my upper back, deltoids, and biceps (a slight version of which exists on me). Guys, do those guns have to weigh that much? And the recoil! I mean, I know it's the cost of doing business, but I'd like to still be standing after I make a shot. I'm funny that way. Anyhow, I made six shots with that gun. The .22 rifles were less troublesome to me compared to the shot gun. They were not as heavy, had no recoil, and racking was easier even than on the Sig. I used these two guns at the end of our two-hour shoot. So, today, all of my upper body muscles are sore, I have a nice bruise on my arm, and I'm sunburned. Had I known Ft. Dix was an outdoor range I'd have brought sun screen. But all in all, I was happy to have been challenged yesterday in entirely new ways and I look forward to continuing.

223lover, I'm 54 and I'm a complete newbie, having gotten my first gun permit only last month. And I'm just a weak girl! If I can do it, you can keep on doing it.

How would that get done, Wolfy?

I'm in Blackwood (Gloucester Township, Camden County).

Darn, man. Brick is so far away from me, and I'm terrible with directions. It's possible I could get my brother to drive me.

Thanks, guys. The task of choosing is really daunting. I'm wondering how realistic it is that I'm going to be able to shoot the exact model I'm thinking of getting before I actually get it; I don't know anybody who owns .22s. If I had to buy a gun without firing it first, will a .22 lead to the least regrets, do you think? The tip about the 686 being in stock will come in handy, gtonut.

Yes, Wolfy, but I wanted a .22 because of the affordability of the ammo. I intend to do a lot of target practice. Isn't the ammo cheaper than for a .357?

Well, guys, I still haven't shot anything yet, but I'm thinking of getting the above revolver. Can this gun be dry fired without damaging it? Also, I listened to a podcast by a guy in NJ reviewing this exact gun. He said he was 5'11", 170 lbs., and and that after awhile the 617, at 38 oz., became heavy even for him. I'm only 5'4", 110. I still want a revolver, though, and aren't all .22 revolvers going to be heavy since they're made of stainless steel?

He's my new BFF!

Here's another good one: "An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." --Jeff Cooper, Marine Lieutenant Colonel

Perfecto, Ken!

Ken, I have a few different reasons why I want to be armed. First, part of my thinking is the same as yours and your wife's. I live in a country where the founders wanted the citizenry to have access to arms and this is a good time in our history for me to take them up. Some people (not you guys on the board) will quote the Bible to me and say, "But he who lives by the sword, dies by the sword." And I would tell them that he who lives by the sword uses it in offense, not defense. I intend to be about defense, like my alter egos (yes, here's the fun part)--Sarah Connor and Ellen Ripley. It's a fallen world, and until the end of it it just makes sense to be prepared (against Terminators and Aliens :twisted: :evil: !!) . Second, being prepared also means practice, practice, practice, so I'm looking forward to target shooting which I think will be a lot of fun, too. And it'll be beneficial exercise for my middle aged brain to learn a new task. I've always admired the skill of the accurate target shooter, and maybe I can be one myself. I guess I could fulfill my desire to hit a target by taking up projectiles that are safer than bullets. I could throw darts, sling stones like Ayla in Clan of the Cave Bear, or shoot rubberbands. But, none of those is the great equalizer. Ever since it was invented, that's the gun. Here's a small part of a quote from G.K. Chesterton, The Apostle of Common Sense. It illustrates that it isn't weapons we should fear but the aggressor who might wield them. He is answering an imaginary letter from a "concerned parent" who worries because her "idiot brother-in-law" is giving her son presents of toy arrows and guns: Chesterton: "A man could be really killed, like St. Stephen, with the stones in the road. I doubt if he could be really killed with arrows from the toyshop. But anyhow the very plain principle is the same. If you can teach a child not to throw a stone, you can teach him when to shoot an arrow; if you cannot teach him anything, he will always have something to throw." In a fallen world there will always be people who cannot be taught, and those who can must always be armed against them. Here's somebody else who thought so. I was surprised when I found out myself. http://www.njguns.com/gabe.htm And a few more cool quotes from Chesterton: "The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him." "The Bible tells us to love our neighbors and also to love our enemies; probably because they are generally the same people." "War is not the best way of settling differences; it is the only way of preventing their being settled for you."

Beautiful, Caine.

Of course you may call me Rose. It's just my board name though, not my real name. I just happen to have a rose kind of motif/decor in my house (motif/decor: girlie words).

You may hijack, Malsua. I have plenty to ponder on already.

Is a .22 absolutely no good at all for home defense?

Excellent, KenW.

Wolfy: What and where is the BA shoot? And about the .357--does it take .22? The idea behind getting a .22 is that the ammo is 10x less expensive and you can therefore afford to practice a lot.