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This thread is getting a little awesome. I am hoping by saying this it doesn't jump the shark, but LE talking with civvies in such matters in such well reasoned discussion is undeniably educational. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Now I don't want to go sounding like I am calling everyone ignorant, cuz i'm not, but I have to point out a very specific point that is consistently overlooked. Follow the bouncing ball 1. NJ has the highest insurance rates in the country. 2. Constituents complain to the politicians 3. Politicians ask insurance companies to lower the rates. 4. Insurance companies say hell no, you don't inspect cars, no effort is made to ticket for seat belts, people tailgate from the top of the state to the bottom and you do nothing about talking about cell phones. Being the Guys that pay out the claims they have ALL the data so it can't be argued. 5. Politicians tell law ENFORCEMENT to enforce the law. 6. LE does so and politicians hope to change the data and get lower insurance rates and claim it for re-election. 7. People get delayed at checkpoints and claim it is simply to generate revenue. Boo hoo Personally, as an avid Motorcyclist, I would prefer they make their revenue ticketing tailgaters to the the point that all New Jersey finally sees it for the ridiculously unsafe stupidity that it is, but everyone would just blow it off as revenue generation and a violation of their rights. The state would make a fortune though. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Try some aged macanudos. I had a dozen from 1982. Very nice cigar. J&r usually has something like in a locked case. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yep. Never touch cigarettes El Ray Del Mundos for me Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Reading some of the news that has been thrown around, Zimmerman merely got out of the car to see a street sign. He was then approached by Martin. So if all that is true then he really was trying to maintain visual contact and report a location. What we will never know is if the above is the true timeline. However the anonymous girlfriend on the phone seemed at one time to indicate that Martin went up to Zimmerman. So, jumping to the conclusion that he was "getting out and following someone" is not a fully supported theory. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Cap and ball black powder revolver. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Exactly. I dated enough lunatics. I just picture sitting there with a shotgun, "so ah.. you like turtles?" Or "there's a guy with a gun in my house, how many hours of drama can i weave?" Why does there need to be a gun in the house THIS weekend? That's me though. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Sounds incredibly weird to me actually. I like to help people but this has a ring of coo coo to it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The argument as your friend has stated is fully in the realm of a civil case. In a civil case you are going to be questioned on every little thing you do anyway so it would be best to focus on having the name of a good lawyer than to neuter yourself with FMJ ammo. Think of it this way, I am sure that George Zimmerman had some sort of HD round is his pistol, but for every little BS thing that shows up in the news abot the incident no one has mentioned that he wanted to kill someone as proven by his ammo choice. I could be wrong and he may have had some American Eagle target rounds, but I doubt it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I prefer the term "recreational shooter," since I don't actually compete. I believe that it imparts the same thing Chris is talking about. While it may not "work," all the time I feel better knowing that the term that they repeat to whomever is the above instead of "paranoid gun but." Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I reload 9 mm Luger exclusively. I have no AR or any rifles so I do not reload that. This could change the whole balance of a lot of things that I have no experience with so take it with a grain of salt. I started reloading last year and my take is that the Lee reloading equipment is for those that are not so much into competition shooting but want to save a buck. It might not be the best at bullet seating, but so far my Lee turret press has been a god send above my Lee single stage. All I do is load Rainier lead safe flat point FMJ(incredibly cheap) with WSF powder. The kit was a promo from Midway and I was happy as a clam. After a few hundred rounds I bought an electric scale ($35) to replace the balance beam and it has been nothing but simple and accurate since. Those that want you to buy a progressive are the guys that can fire more than 500 rounds per Saturday and maybe 500 more on Sunday. I will shoot 300 max on a Saturday and then help the wife plant tomatos on Sunday. So, progressive is expensive but worth it if you shoot your a** off every weekend to practice for a match. If you are an occasional range guy then go for the cheaper turrets. I hope to have a new .380 auto and .45 to reload for so that will be some more dies and turrets. The dies are caliber specific so you could need 4 dies for each caliber you want to reload. If you are digging my Lee happy post then buy the Lee reloading manual for more specific info. Others don't like it so much, but for the price their equipment is a great way to start. Look for the complete kits to start. How many hundreds if rounds per weekend you shoot should be the determining factor between turret and progressive. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The magic isn't in cleaning the gun, the magic is a clean gun. Sniff it and try to smell all those past rounds. Can't smell anything but gun cleaner after 5000 rounds? Magic Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Don't even worry about that. Online purchases of the tools are nothing. The deals are found when you dodge or minimize the hazmat fees on powder and primers. Focus on that and you are good to go. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

One of the places I called in NJ about reloading supplies told me that they stopped carrying it when the state upped the permit to stock powder and primers from $300 to $600 per year. The few that do stock it are paying that annual fee. I can understand why they would not want to stock it for that kind of silly 100% jump in permit fees. The rest never seem to stock enough, likely because of some sort of restriction on how much hazardous materials one is permitted in one location. That's my guess anyway. I have an economical enough car and I am close enough to PA And NY that a run to those stocking places is far cheaper than any hazmat fee, so that is a very good way to keep costs in line if you can do it. As far as buying 5000 rounds worth of materials, all you would need is maybe 1000 or so of brass and reload them 5 times. I have only 500 9mm brass cases and have shot them the equivalent of 4000 rounds. And this is simply with a turret press for $110 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Trayvon Martin thing will jam it up and scare enough politicians from voting for it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

A light is all I consider. I don't ever want to put a shot into the darkness if I am unsure. Identify the target -always good. I don't really like the way shotgun mounted lights work though. I personally prefer my original wood stock to anything else. Good for clubbing. "butt strike to the heeeeaaad!!!!!!! Execute!l" I think the only hand to hand drill we did in the Army that used the pistol grip was the actual bayonet jab, and the one where you jab the guy in the face with the muzzle. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Cool. Thanks. That's only an hour and a half away. I could do that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Ah, so I would have to go out of state to take up the hobby? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You can do that easily. Take a trip to Cabellas if you can. They have plenty to choose from and people that know them. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You can definitely get a game camera that will not flash at night. With the leaves growing out now it should be easy enough to hide. I have seen a number of surveillance places selling game cams now. One place sells a camera and DVR disguised as a rock but that was close to $700. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Where do you hang glide in New Jersey? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

One time I met up with a bunch of people I met online and shot all day, having a great time. Few times actually. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

That's a great article. Sad too. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Interesting. What would you say is the best? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It would be great if they had stats beyond 2009 and more map points for others crimes like burglaries. I guess it takes a while to compile that info though. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk