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Interesting, I've dealt with two different towns, and they always wanted the money order when you apply, made out directly to the State Police. As well as the cash for the permits and FID up front. I just got mine last week and the ony thing I paid was $7 for the pistol permits and the $62 to Saigen Morpho. The guys behing the desk thought I had to give a money order too but the detective doing the work knew better. All in all a pretty good experience for me

I had heard that this is a complely voluntary initiative aimed at restaurants. The mayor made it clear a few weeks ago that he considered it non binding and unenforceable but would like to give an incentive to reduce sodium in people's diets. I am no diet expert, but I am all for healthier food. In fact, the first place I ever saw the calory count on a dish was in the dining facility in our FOB south of Mosul. That simple addition of signage help me lose maintain and reduce my weight while there. I remember thinking how great it was and then when I returned NY City had started listing calorie counts in restaurants as well. For those that know and care to use the information it can be a great tool. Reducing the amount of salt to start is a great tool as well. I LOVE salt but my wife can do without it for health reasons. I would prefer the option of adding more for my own preference vs her not being able to go out to dinner.

Trust me I made all of these points to him, hes a lost cause he literally said to me "if things get so bad that there is no government control ill just give up" I couldn't even believe my ears when I heard that. unbelievable. Give up? What's that mean? Surrender or jump off a cliff? Personally, the idea of no govt. contrrol is not in any way a motivation for a firearm, some chucklehead in my house looking to commit a crime is. I am a firm believer that most people that commit a violent crime hadn't had the thought 5 minutes ago. I don't want to give them the option. I work and lived in NYC for many years and it always took one instance of violent crime close to a person's family for them to come to me looking for advice on obtaining a firearm. Cold satisfaction when they have that look; " 6 months and $400 for a permit?!" Yea man, that's what youve been missing.

Just a word in case you are thinking about it, Hold off on MAG. Its not quite there yet.

For the easily repeated things like this I like to work out the response ahead of time. It doesn't happen often to me but it does happen. I like to say either "you seem angry, I am in danger here?" Calmly of course. Or "you're frightening me." Never really seems to shut them up, but I bet they think about it. I remember one guy that said, after I said he was scaring me, "what are you going to do, shoot me?" I asked him if that's what he would do. He said no. I asked him again, but your so angry. There is no reason to debate anyone in that situation. Now, when it comes to anti war/military people that subject switches a little switch in my thinking. A guy tried to trap me asking "you could kill another person?" I channel all the military training I had and give it to them without apology "I would splatter their insides all over the sidewalk and make them look like a butchers block. Its only slippery for a few minutes, then it dries. The problem is the smell but you learn to live with it as long as you can get another kill." Or one I heard from a Marine, "Hell yea, did you know heads pop when you shoot them?"

I have gone MAG all the way these days.

I showed up at my niece's 3rd birthday party wearing a tan T-shirt similar in color to the army ACU T-shirt. On the front it has a silhouette of Duke Ellington standing straight up and playing a trumpet. Similar to this pose but he is standing straight One of my in-laws approaches me and says "what kind of person wears a shirt with a gun on it to a 3 year old's birthday party?" I was like, "I don't know?" trying to find that guy to ask what he's got and where he bought it and she's giving me this look. I start to think, "what shirt did I put on this morning?" I look down, sho' nuf, it's Sir Duke. I laugh because she thought it was a gun. She's not laughing. I haven't got any words because I don't want to laugh in her face but after a second or two she looks at the shirt again and see's what it is. Her face goes slack but she isn't apologizing. She says "oh, I thought it was a gun." I believe she started to think I wore the shirt that looked like a gun to be clever. Like I was pulling off a some kind of trick. She didn't apologize and mumbled something about no tolerance. Since then I have come to marvel at the ability of people to be brave enough to get in your face about some BS thing they feel you need to feel too but without the balls to apologize when they are wrong.

I can understand the concern, but concern would mean you should ask. People that have no experience with firearms have conceptions that should be addressed. I think keeping a cool head and saying "I lock my guns up in a safe so they won't be lost in a burglary. Is your son/daughter a safecracker?" is a good way to start a conversation.

As a former NYC resident I just want to add a little to this even since it is already mostly answered. Be aware that NY does not consider "locked in the trunk" or "locked in the car in the glove box." to be secure. That is why you do not want to stop and get out to do anything other than maybe pump gas. Don't even take a leak. I don't know what they would charge you with, but the NYC license division made it perfectly clear that the weapon would be considered unsecured and I would lose my permit. It is kind of a good idea anyway. There was a time back in the nineties when you would here about trunks opened and items removed in less than a minute. You don't hear about that much anymore but I had seen it happen one day by chance just looking out my office window. The guy did it so fast and with a purpose so it looked like he owned the car and was just opening his trunk.

I have the STS-33 that the local PD gave me and used it to fill out the blanks and be ready for input into the online .pdf you guys have here. However the rev the fo. I have an 11/03 rev and the online version is much newer, by about 6 years. How wierd is that?

Yea, a joke if he got caught, a successful robbery if he didn't. Got to love the old fallback.

Well you guys are having too much fun. Here is a few of mine. I had thought to hold back on a few because I never know who I am offending these days and some just might, even in this group. But lets just say I don't actually know you guys well enough to think that any of this applies to you. When I tell people something like "some Jacka++ was kicking the back of my chair on the train home." they say, "Dude, you were in Iraq, and THIS bother's you?" Hey M'F'er, This isn't Iraq, uncross your damed legs and sit like an adult. People that immediately ask "Are you OKAY?!" over and over actually expecting a response when they see you get injured. Give me a second and I can figure out the pain scale, then I can give you enough information for you to continue to be useless in helping. Idiots that tell you "Don't lift with your back," when in fact you are not. +1 When said by a person that never lifts a damned thing. People that say "You were in Iraq? What was that like?" and give me 20 seconds before reciting everything they heard and believe is true based on television news. People that say things like "We rolled into Iraq and kicked Saddam's ass!" When in fact they have never worn a uniform or even done a sit up. Don't get me wrong, I know when someone means 'we' as in the country, but there are just enough of the type that followed along on CNN and Fox that act like they were there with me. The same person as above that think their support of the war means that I agree with everything they say about everything and start debates with others looking for me to back them. What you think I believe and what I actually believe can be widely different. I have seen things with my own eyes and my opinions and ideas have little to do with the TV news. Get to know me a bit before you assume. People that think I should return a handshake when they say "thank you for your service." You don't need to touch me. That one jerk that tried to hug me while I was in uniform to "say Thanks." Get off me pal! He had the nerve imply I was ungrateful. supervisors that use the fact that I was a Sergeant ias a free pass to act like huge a-hole to their people then say "you think this is harsh, ask Dave, he was in the Army , this is nothing." Again, Dude THIS ISN"T THE ARMY! The Army is the Army. YOU are just a blowhard! Seriously, you would think some believe that having been in the Army and in combat means you can't complain about anything. Fer fok's sake, I smashed my hand with a Frieghtliner (M915) brake drum so hard I couldn't make a fist for 6 months but never went on sick leave You think that means that I have to prove myself to you? What the hell did you do to deserve that kind of commitment from me? People that spend their half their lives in front of computers but never attempt to learn how they work. Saying "Who is this 'THEY' and why are they so mysterious?" Who the fok do you think I am talking about? Martians? If I tell you something like "they want everyone to clean up the area before they leave," you know full frikken well who 'they' are. I am not telling you the fry cooks at McDonalds weighed in on it, and by the way CLEAN UP BEFORE YOU LEAVE! DUH! Jughandles. Can I get a HELL YEA from the NY'ers!

RC planes, shotguns, some beer... sounds kinda fun

The ONLY rifle allowed in NJ for deer hunting is a muzzleloader I was about to to call you a liar... But then I looked it up. Do people actually do that?

In Iraq we walked with a mag on the buttstock on the FOB. I think they gave us a Spec-Ops brand sling with it built in but very similar to this http://www.uscav.com/Productinfo.aspx?p ... &TabID=548

Marlin 336 30-30 with a 3-9 scope. Why? I don't know... I can't deer hunt in NJ with it. Why can't you hunt with that?

I love that very last image at the end. Statue of liberty at sundown. I have seen it before but I could never find it.

That's great info. It seemed I might be going with an organization that is using small single engine planes to Port-de-Paix but it might not happen. Those people are too busy doing the job than to answer an email. Sometimes all we can do is send money, even if we are willing to run out and dig.

I am on a long list to help out in small aircraft transporting goods to Haiti. 'tween you, me and the lamp... I'd consider packing. Any advice?

Correct. There was never a chance I would be sold a mag holding more than 10 rounds. We heard a few tales about people and their loopholes, but I only ever saw 10 round mags. This actually brings me to another question. I also have a bullet proof vest. I bought that legally too, back when i was an NYPD auxilliary many years ago. Any laws about that?

Okay thanks. I think I am getting the picture. It seems I am legal but getting the FPID at least and a permit is best practices.

AHA!!! okay, I guess the FPID is good for a few reasons. One of which is that I will need to get something other than my hollow points (legal in NY mind you :? ) Thanks.

Over the weekend I spoke to my eye doctor, an avid skeet and trap guy, and an acquaintance from the NYPD emergency Services. This is the disconnect. I legally bought a Glock in NYC with my NYC premise permit. I now live in Morris County. The loca municipality PD said all I had to do was transport it in the legal manner (described in this forum at length, thank you!) to the new home and that is that. The optometrist says I should have some sort of permit for it (He also owns a Sig and is in Morris County) The LEO also believes this but thought that perhaps the local PD sounded right as long as the purchase of the Glock when in New York registered the firearm in a federal system. But he didn't know for sure. So here I am in Morris county with an expired NYC premise permit, a Glock that I bought legally, and no valid piece of paper for anything to do with it. Is this right? I can't believe I could go to a NJ pistol range with nothing but a Glock and a story. What should I do?

Not what I expected from this special insider newletter I get in order to find a job. But I thought it would interest the group. -----

They'd just stop making it http://www.selectparks.net/911survivor/ ... shots.html