Bob B

Thanks guys. Appreciate the support. Downr@nge, not sure if you checked yet, but I sent you an email yesterday.

NJ2AS just had a meeting with our attorneys to finalize our strategy regarding our next lawsuit in Operation Establish Compliance (OEC). For those of you who are not aware, OEC is our continuing effort to get municipal police departments to follow existing law when processing FID and PPP applications. Our first lawsuit to gain access to the NJSP Firearms Investigation Guidebook is still ongoing. We are now targeting the “additional requirements” that we see so often and that are prohibited by 2C:58-3(f). …There shall be no conditions or requirements added to the form or content of the application, or required by the licensing authority for the issuance of a permit or identification card, other than those that are specifically set forth in this chapter. We are now identifying the plaintiffs. If you are willing to be a plaintiff and you live in one of these three towns, please contact me as soon as possible ([email protected]). Ocean City (Cape May County) Egg Harbor Township (Atlantic County) Pennsville (Salem County) You will have the opportunity to speak with one of our attorneys and have all of your questions answered before you make a final decision to participate. Sincere thanks to all who have participated in the information gathering, research, Maks' Compliancy Project and everything else. None of this would be possible if it was not for the continued support and generous contributions of everyone here.

Do we even know for sure that the Chief will not extend permits. Maybe the detective, or clerk is misinformed or misunderstands, or has an agenda. Speaking to the Chief might clear it up in 5 minutes.

Rabbi Dovid Bendory, of Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership

Some states have a law that allows the use of deadly force to stop a person who committed a felony from fleeing. Not sure if that is the case in WV.

Easy transition from gun to crossbow.

Nef, You are correct. At least some of the things you mentioned are what we call "additional conditions or requirements" which are specifically prohibited by 2C:58-3(f). NJ2AS is in the final stages of planning our second in a series of lawsuits attacking exactly these types of issues. I'm going to PM you my contact info. Don't know what will happen, but we should at least talk. Bob

If your going to go all out on a generator, I would probably go with one that runs on natural gas. You can connect it directly to your home's nat gas line. You won't have to worry about having fuel on hand. In a pinch, you can also run them on propane with little or no modification.

If you can't find a generator and you really need one, you could go to Best Buy and get an inverter that turns your cigarette lighter in your car into a 110 outlet. You can then run an extension cord to your car and at least run a couple of amps worth. It's enough for a TV or lamp, computer, charge your cell phone, etc. They can run anywhere from $15 to $150. Best Buy Inverters Make sure your car is running.

Thank you, Sir. You are a gentleman.

I don't see anything prohibiting the use of hollow nose ammunition for self-defense in the home. The mere question, however, emphasizes the point that we need a stronger Castle Doctrine in NJ. One which has criminal and civil immunity. I think if there is any danger in using hollow nose ammunition for self-defense in the home, it is in how it would be viewed in civil court.

I found the reference to "Project Camden" in the FOIA document interesting.

foia_doc_20_full.PDF Okay. Gotta admit. I've never heard of this one.

Fixed. Thanks, Dan.

NJ2AS website NJ2AS on Youtube lawsuit article on Ammoland Operation Establish Compliance

Well, that was just about as cool as you can get.

Didn't realize that AZ picked up NV. +1 for having multiple permits. I did the same thing as Harry. Also took about 3 days to get the packet. You have to send away for the packet because they require that you use their fingerprint cards.

CT does not honor any other state's permit, so if you plan to go there, you need to get it in order to carry. You can get the following permits through the mail without traveling to that state. AZ CT FL ME NH VA UT SC (if you own land there)

Eloquently said, G. I would also add that, with varying expiration dates, you remain covered if you miss a renewal, or don't get the new one back in time.

It's the little things...

FYI, @ the NJ2AS meeting on Wed, Aug 17 in Toms River, GFH will be manning the CCW table again. Prints, photos and notary for $25 for members, $50 for non-members. FL applications will be on hand, or you can bring any other state's application. I did VA and AZ a few months ago. (To get SC, you have to own land there).

Gun Owners’ Rights From now on, when I talk to anyone about Second Amendment related issues, I am going to use the term “Gun Owners’ Rights” rather than “Gun Rights.” It may seem trivial, but we criticize our opposition for targeting the object, rather than the criminal. I think the same holds true for us. The gun owner is harmed by bad law, not the gun. Think of this for a moment. Imagine if, during a debate, a candidate is asked, "Do you support gun rights?" Now contrast that with "Do you support gun owners' rights?" I think there is a difference there.

No problem. Better late than never. Congratulations!

That's the way I read it.

Okay, I feel better now. Looking forward to meeting you and having the opportunity to answer any of your questions in person.