Bob B

Ryan, what did Mr. Miller ask for?

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You are referring to what is called "prior restraint." You can't gag a person on the way into the theater in order to prevent them from yelling "fire."

About 600 are registered on NJ2AS.com so far.

We spoke with our attorney about this. He is already working on it on behalf of ANJRPC and promised to let us know as soon as he hears anything.

There will not be a counter protest. You have to have a permit. They will not give out more than one permit and NJ2AS has it for that day at that time. If any counter protestors show up, we will ask the athorities to intervene.

Guns are not Sacred - Life is Sacred - Guns Save Lives Disarming the Innocent is an Act of Violence Disarming Innocents is Violence 170,000,000 killed by gun control in the 20th Century (have JPFO fliers to support this carried by everyone who has this sign) Criminals Want Gun Control Dependence plus Disarmament = Slavery Citizen or Subject? Only Slaves are Told that they may not Defend Themselves Arm the Innocent - Disarm the Criminals If there is no need for an Assault Rifle, then why do the police have them? One background check is enough! If Gun Crime is a Public Health Emergency, then Gun Ownership is the Vaccine!

If the courts agree, once states realize that they are libel, the idea of gun free school zones will be abandoned quickly, in favor of effective school security plans.

I think this case raises a very important question. Are schools legally responsible for the safety of the students?

No. That is just the administrative code. The NJ AWB has no sunset. Sorry. Criminal statutes are in Title 2C of New Jersey Statutes Annotated (N.J.S.A.) Assault Firearms are defined in 2C:39-1w. Possession of an assault firearm is illegal as per 2C:39-5f.

If you own a shore house and you transport your unloaded handgun and a box of hollowpoints in your trunk from one residence to another, you are legally in possession of the handgun, by exception (2C:39-6e), and you are illegally in possession of the hollowpoints because only the exceptions in 2C:39-3g and 2C:39-6f apply to hollowpoints, which do not include travel between residences. That is one example of a normally lawful activity where, if you are in possession of hollowpoints, you are committing a crime.

Just got off the phone with JP Enterprises. They are swamped and are no longer taking orders for stripped uppers or lowers. You can only order a complete gun or a complete upper.

Hollowpoints are illegal, unless you are law enforcement or you are subject to the exceptions in 2C:39-3g or "engaged in activities pursuant to subsection f. of N.J.S.2C:39-6". These are the only exceptions. For example, there is no exception for transporting hollowpoints from one residence to another.

Translation: Minimum of three, maximimum of ten, presumption of seven years in State's Prison.

Your relatives do not have a NJ Permit to Carry a Handgun, therefore they may only be in possession of a handgun in NJ within the exemptions in 2C:39-6g. I don't know of an exemption that allows a person to possess a handgun while transporting to a relatives home, or while staying at a relatives home. I could be wrong. If so, please post the exemption for the OP to read.

The Assembly bill can be amended on the floor. Once amended and passed in the Assembly, the new language goes back to the Senate for a new vote. The language of the amendment(s) need to be scrutinized, but so far Senator Van Drew and Assemblyman Albano both seem sincere in their efforts to address the problem.

I just got off the phone with ASM Mainor's office (Chairman of the Law and Public Safety Committee). They told me that the bill will not be heard on Monday and that it is "being held for amendments."

That's a good point.

I'm interested in everyone's comments on this one. NJ2AS is analyzing it. My personal take is that to criminalize possession of ammunition for prohibited persons, the crimes that are listed must exactly match those that would prohibit possession of a firearm, otherwise you will end up with people who may possess a firearm, but not ammunition, which is silly. It looks to me like this list may contain other crimes. At first glance, nothing stands out as egregious, but they always try and sneak something in. Is there a crime listed in there that has a very low bar, or is not the equivalent of a felony, or violent crime? For example, what exactly is intimidation bias? Perhaps a better approach would be to simply add "ammunition" to 2C:39-4 and 2C:39-7, which govern possession of firearms by those with criminal intent and criminal history. The other thing is, if they are going to criminalize possession of ammunition for prohibited persons, then there is clearly no reason to keep hollow nose ammunition in 2C:39-3(f) since a bright line will be created by establishing that no prohibited persons my possess any ammunition. Only law-abiding citizens would be left, so no need for restricting HP's any longer. Thoughts?

Thank you, Bob. "Psych questionnaire" is also inaccurate. It's a Consent for Mental Health Records Search. Sounds to me like the PD he works for may have an illegal additional questionnaire as well as other illegal requirements. Hopefully someone will set him straight.

Some misinformation on policeone.com. http://www.policeone.com/patrol-issues/articles/5980429-NJ-pharmacist-fires-gun-to-foil-robbery/ Only leo's can comment there so I couldn't correct them. At least he got the last sentence right.

RE, Could you scan and email me a copy of the forms. I will add your town to Operation Establish Compliance and we will do our best to get them to drop the forms so the next time you apply for permits you will not be subjected to that. [email protected] Bob

There is something odd about the third paragraph of that story: Why was the "head of the Newark Police Department" at a Star-Ledger editorial board meeting?

The Bergen Record picked up on the fact that the ACLU lawsuit was consolidated with ours. We are mentioned in the last two paragraphs. http://www.northjers...se_records.html

Paul, we are trying to sue, but, so far, none of the towns have been willing to defend their practices, which is understandable, because they are illegal. Status of NJ2AS v. Division of State Police: http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/25174-nj2as-v-njsp-update-and-court-documents/page__fromsearch__1 http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/07/nj_aclu_files_lawsuit_alleges.html http://www.northjersey.com/news/162317406_ACLU_sues_over_attorney_general_s_refusal_to_release_records.html Kearny has been added to OEC.