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I'm pretty sure that's what the Russians did. Apparently, there were a few "legal glitches," so the pirates had to be "set free." Why do I not see Russians "setting free" any pirate-type criminal? My money is that the skinnies got swimming lessons. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100507/ap_ ... /eu_piracy

Just found out, Nappen and Booker are going at it tonight at 8pm on Newark: OUtgunned on channel 12!

I'll be bringing my wife, who is looking for her first gun (probably a 9mm). Are there any volutneers that are willing to let her fire a few rounds to get a feel of a couple different types/brands? I'm more than willing to let anyone have some time with my 686, btw (regardless of if my wife shoots your gun or not).

Just saw an update. It looks like it MIGHT be almost balanced. It discusses the illegal trade that exists (no, we can't deny it) through straw purchasers and shipped up illegally from the south with "looser" gun laws. It also apparently includes an interview with Richard Gilbert--an attorney who advocates for permitted carry as a deterrent to violent gun crime. Update on times, too. I just, literally, JUST saw this two minutes ago. Thursday at 5pm for short "teasers." Thursday 8 pm for 1-hour special. I still think the Saturday Sunday still stands. I feel the tide shifting. CCW will never happen over night; this is a tide that must be shifted through relentless pressure and rational argument. Eventually, we will prove that an unarmed populace is a citizenry of victims and that CCW is not only a rational solution, but a necessary PART of the solution to violent crime. I'm a little excited about this program special. It's bringing our CCW argument to popular attention.

You can buy GUNS at Wal-Mart. Connection requirement met; carry on.

You may also be able to watch parts of it, or the netire program on www.news12.com after it airs.

My S&W 686 is 12 years old. It once sat in storage for 3+ years. Prior to storage, I cleaned it until every millimeter was "white glove" clean. Then a light coat of oil and into a sealed, fire-proof box. The enemy is moisture, acids (like in your skin oil) and oxygen.

I have to admit, I don't think I clearly remember. I was only half-listening at the moment and the advertisement only caught my attention when they said the name at the end. IF I remember correctly, it's about the rampant violence in Newark with some focus on NJ's strong gun controls and how they have failed to curtail the violence. I got the feeling that the program was questioning NJ's Gun Control. I'll keep an eye on News 12 and update this thread with more info. News 12 says they'll be running teasers prior to air date.

Updated. See original post.

Apparently not. Just media reporting the cirminalization of otherwise law-abiding, upstanding citizens. From thebrooklynink.com

They made him move out after they found out he had raped their 13-year-old daughter?!?! Wow...my family would be in the papers for a different reason after that: "Body of illegal, rapist immigrant found in back yard of suburban family's home." I bet Guatemala gets involved and puts up the claim "it's legal in our country, he didn't know, let him go." :roll:

Has anyone heard about this program? I was watching News 12 this evening and a spot came on advertising a special segment that was coming up called "Newark: Outgunned." I didn't catch when it was coming on, but I'm interested in it. Does anyone else know about this upcoming program? UPDATE: Just got this e-mail response from News 12.

Does it make me abad person that, while reading this part, I envisioned a swarm of locusts leaving AZ and invading neighboring states, and none returing south?? Neighboring states need to step up or face further invasion.

That's total BS. Nazism is considered an extreme right-wing polical party Hitler's political views consisted of: - Antifeminism. - Strong/Rigid Social and Family order and rigid hierarchichal order to most aspects of life. - Extreme Homophobia/homosexual eradication. - Censorship of art - Desire to return to the "Glorious Past" for a "Glorious Future." - AntiCommunism - Distrust of foreigners - Extreme Nationalism (and Racial Nationalism) The National Party of South Africa (Apartheid Administration) was also an extreme right-wing government. Other criminal governments defy categorization. E.g. Stalin fostered the military and secret service, performed purges and deportations of foreigners, fostered industrialization, and yet, he embraced collectivism and social services. Which is why he is often referred to have followed "Stalinism" and not "communism." However, the genocidal Khmer Rouge was, definitely, an extreme left organization. I think it's safe to say, as it's been said before, extremeism and unchecked/abused power, and not "left/right" is the enemy.

God was strolling around heaven, enjoying the wonders of all He had created. The beauty, the purity and happiness was ringing through the air in a particularly sweet way that day. Suddenly, God comes across the Devil: "What are you doing here?!? I banished you to hell!" "I built a staircase from hell up to heaven, so I can come up and enjoy this splendor any time I want," replied the devil. "No," replied God, "you have to go back to hell and stay there and block off that staircase, now!" "What are you gonna do if I don't?" "I'm going to get a lawyer and have a court issue an Order." To this, the devil smiles knowingly and quips "where are YOU gonna find a lawyer?"

I think the extreme leftist atmosphere here in NJ is the reason why there is such a high concentration of "Independents" in NJ. I walk that middle ground, especially when the gap is so large, as it is in NJ. Conservatives trample rights just like Leftists, they just trample different rights in accordance with their agendas. I think frequent turnover is the best tool to avoid any party getting too comfortable and taking too many liberties (literally and figuratively).

Wow, really big turn-out today. It was great meeting all of you. Next time, I'll try to bring the wife; she needs practice, too!

Good idea. I know nobody wants to hear this, but if you meet with the detective and rely on the information he gives you, it does NOT protect you from criminal charges if he's wrong and you follow his directions and end up breaking the law, anyway. Generally, ignorance of the law or misinterpretation of the law is only a defense when you have relied on an authority figure whose job it is to provide interpretations of the law (.e.g Attorney General and Department of Justice opinions and procedures). Detectives in the police force are not usually considered an appropriate authority. So, while this detective might be giving you advice and he might make you feel more comfortable about the steps you're taking, if he's wrong, it's still your butt that ends up in jail. Just a heads up.

Ya see, I thought, since Bush Jr. is the son of the devil, he'd get the family discount! I guess the joke ends differently depending on the teller. A man takes a hot air balloon ride and gets lost. The man takes the balloon down low enough to find a local to ask him where he is. Drifting along just above the road, he spots a young man walking. Ballooner: "You, sir, can you please tell me where am I?" Local: "Well, you're in the passenger compartment of a lighter-than-air craft about 4.5 meters above the Earth located at about 40 degrees, 13 minutes 18 seconds North, 74 degrees, 45 minutes 22 seconds West." Ballooner: "You must be an engineer." Local: "Yes, sir, how did you know that?" Ballooner: "Because, everything you've told me is technically correct, but you've still left me in the air with no idea where I am." Local: "And you must be in management." Ballooner: "Yes, how did you know that?" Local: "Because, you went off and got yourself into a heap of trouble, asked me for help, and because you can't understand my answer, it's suddenly my fault." *crickets* Sorry, but the rest of my jokes come with a parental warning.

I'll try to make it. I was just in NOLA for the Jazz/Music Festival two weeks ago, it was great! Would love to recapture it.

That's a spin doctor's line sir. It falls right in line with "I voted for the bill before I voted against the bill". That's a bunch of bs in my opinion. What offends me is that it seems like the comments on pictures such as that above are all "We shouldn't have pictures like this, its meant to rile up people, blah blah blah, etc" and yet when the shoe is on the other foot and the "other side" raises such commentary it's squashed if it even sees the light of day. +1 Let's take a look at the other shoe. And that type of posturing makes me more angry than the "they're coming for our guns" photo. I very strongly believe that people have the absolute right to make those photos, signs, statements etc. But, just as strongly, I feel I have the right to tell those people what I think of those statements. It's a two-way street. And I'm not quite sure what the spin doctor's statement was about, but I'd like to think it was talking about the political ads that say "Candidate X voted against Bill X 7 times..." and how ridiculous those statements are. I was commenting that I would like to know how they voted on final passage. I wasn't attempting to say they were any less unfriendly.

Now, THIS, I can learn from. Thank you. I'm not a hard-line lefty, I'm not really even left. I hate both parties for their attacks on individual freedoms. I get riled up at sensationalism like the picture, though, no matter "which side" is putting up the show. And honestly, "Voting 'No'" on a bill doesn't mean that much. It's more important to know where the bill is in the process when they voted no and how the politician voted on final passage. Either way, you're right, it looks like those politicians are no friend to gun owners. :oops:

As much as I'd love to believe the mindless rhetoric about "liberals," can you name one instance where those pictured have threatened gun ownership? Or is it just the "D" that sparks this post? Wasn't it Obama that signed the bill CHANGING the laws and PERMITTING carry in National Parks? By all means, though, don't let reality get in the way. :roll:

i believe it's because they did not get a raise when their contract said they were supposed to get one. so the public employees made a deal with Corzine and said "ok, we'll just defer and take it next fiscal year just as long as you don't lay off any workers." Yeah, I don't remeber last year being such a great fiscal year, either. So, I have no sympathies for them, because they agreed to no raises to stave off lay-offs. They could have chosen raises and lay-offs, but their call was to save each other. Things aren't better. There are plenty of people that will gladly take their jobs at the current pay and not whine about a raise this year. They can take their contracts and eat them. Or, they can quit and join the open market...but I doubt they can hack it in non-government, non-union-controlled life.

How's that saying go? Shoot 'em all, let Allah sort them out! Also: "Easy, you just don't lead them as much." P.S. I fully support our troops in all arenas. I also do not believe in second-guessing battlefiled calls days, months or years later. Learning from them, yes, but second-guessing, no.