BRaptor

In my non-legal opinion and to state it generally, New Jersey cannot regulate, punish or restrict sales from vendors out of state. Luckygunner may be governed by a law in its own state that may say Luckgunner has to comply with the state laws to which it ships ammunition (I'm just guessing here). If NJ were to try to force an out of state vendor to comply with NJ's (messed up) laws, that would fall under NJ attempting to regulate interstate commerce. Under the US Constitution, regulating interstate commerce is strictly the federal government's realm (with certain exceptions), even when the federal government hasn't made a law. So, no, you shouldn't need an FID to buy out of state ammo and NJ cannot punish you for purchasing ammunition from an out of state vendor who doesn't ask for your FID.

Even though the name "New Jersey Gun Forums" isn't a registered trademark, you may still have a claim against them under common law trademark or unfair competition laws. It might be interesting to find out who it is and send them a polite "cease and desist" letter.

This sounds similar to Clifton PD's questionnaire. They asked my references a question similar to "Why should this person be issued an FID?" I know it might sound trivial, but why wasn't the question phrased, "Can you provide any reason why this person shouldn't be issued an FID?" [Without arguing whether a questionnaire is appropriate at all]. To me, there is a difference in the questions. The first reflects a "rejected until approved" attitude and the second a "approved until rejected" attitude. In the end, the statute leaves it to the Police Chief to see to it that the applicant is investigated. If my reading is correct, questionnaires are optional and calling employers is optional, unless there is a standing Executive Order on how to inventigate. In my view (probably not NJ's view), your references should be able to leave that question blank and you should be approved. In the end, the response should be honest; your references should tell the nice detective why you think you need/deserve a gun in this state (/sarcasm).

Ah, America. I used to live there. How I miss thee. :cry:

I cannot imagine having hay pressed into all my sensitive bits like that; doesn't look like it would be comfortable.

Yes, but I'm not taking the time to resdearch it for you. Just off the top of my head, I can think of most cases where a minor child used the parents' gun to commit suicide (specifically in FL, where I grew up, and likely in most other free states, also). There are many other accidental discovery and discharge stories that did not result in criminal prosecution. This particular story never mentioned that there wouldn't be a civil suit, so I won't even try to fulfill that requirement.

Why were the roommate's kids in the officer's bedroom? Where was the mom if the kids were both in the officer's bedroom? If mom was in the room with the kids, how on Earth did this child have the ability to get hold of the gun and have time to fire it without mom taking action? Much more details needed.

Yeah, somehow the 2A became the unpopular kid of the bill of rights. If you support it to the clear, unabiguous wording that it actually contains, then you're a nut. I will refrain from hijacking this thread to discuss the mosque.

I do see the irony. The entry about Taqiyya uses Taqiyya to alay fears that Muslims openly, willfully and revel in any opportuinty to lie to infidels.

+1 There's no way you get pulled over for 75 in a 65 on the GSP at 11:30 a.m. I'd bet he was doing more like 85+.

I got about 1/3 through that list before my eyes rolled back into my head. What a load of crap.

Yeah, but it's the 9th Circuit. That's the federal judge short bus. The 9th Circuit is the most overturned circuit in the U.S. They're idiots. I didn't read the opinion. I'll wait for the Supreme Court to weigh in. I write in short sentences.

So, last night I drafted my complaint against the Clifton PD and NJSP to be filed with the Court tomorrow, day 90 post-application. Today (on day 89!), I get a call from Cassie at the Clifton PD, my NJFID is ready and I can pick it up. :!: Half of me is really happy to finally get my FID. The other half is irate that I had to wait 3 months just for the privilege of purchasing ammunition for my 686 from a retailer in the state of NJ. Half of me wants to still try to challenge the current system. But, I don't have the expertise in the area. Plus, any lawyer that represents himself is said to have a fool for a lawyer and a client. So, sadly, and anti-climactically, the "fight" is over before round one.

Perhaps it has something to do with an interpretation of "with sufficient force to injure"?

Beyond your local ordinances, your neighbors may have an opinion. I know that if I lived on 5 acre parcels and my neighbor started his own private "range" in his back yard, we'd be havin' a talk. I mean, if they're square lots, houses are MAX around 900 feet apart on the straight, and maybe 1300 feet on the diagonal. If any significant part of that land is cleared, then that's not enough distance for safety and some type of backstop is needed.

After reading that, I think I felt my IQ drop a few points as a result of diffusion. All I can say is wow...

Wow, can't wait until a real car company picks this idea up!!! Yes, I'm trolling.

I used to live and surf in FL. We had spinner sharks (do a quick google image search). There were other types of sharks, but the spinners always got your attention....never got out of the water, though.

Honestly, I was hoping I would never see a shart joke on this board. I am dissapoint.

An actress in LA, huh? Are there any other...*ahem*....photos or movies that she appears in?

I got jury duty coming up and I want to use it as an excuse to get out of it. Maybe spray some, act sick and tell them I had a burrito for breakfast. :shifty: No habla ingles.... "Why would the prosecutor put forth all that effort to charge them with a crime if they didn't do it?"

Arbitrarily and capriciously! Welcome to the PRNJ. Now, where's the beef?!?!?!?!

Well, for the time being, I can't make this meeting. I've actually got work lined up until September. However, keep the updates coming, I'd like to make some meetings.

Fixed.

A lawyer first needs a client who is willing to pay to fight this battle, which can be VERY expensive. I would guesstimate that just to get to the state appellate court level (the level that would most likely feel "comfortable" going against this 1998 precedent), a good lawyer with reasonbly well-researched and well-drafted submissions will cost you at least $7,000 (plus costs). This guess is based on low-ball guesses for research and document preparation times and a guess that the lawyer costs $300/hour for time (which is about right, from what I know). I'm willing to bet that this one will require appeal to NJ Supreme Court (which will uphold the Appellate decision and refuse to interpret the law correctly), THEN the work will start in the Fed. courts and even then, there's no guarantee of changing the precedent. So, why wouldn't a client pay for this? The whole process would take a VERY long time and by then, the FID will have issued or been denied. So, the only motivation is to set precedent for other citizens. BUT that would be a very expensive public service. So, there's little motivation for a client to pay a lawyer to take this on and without a client, a lawyer really can't challenge the law on their own. Thus, the state continues to push the little guy around.