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Well, there may be a 3rd option. FFL's and gunsmiths take possession of guns all of the time. Can an FFL or gunsmith make a housecall, pick up the gun, give it a good cleaning and forward it to your friend?

I bought my .1911 because my son watched Captain America and asked if I could buy Captain Roger's gun. Ok... twist my arm, right? So seeing as this was basically a range gun and I wanted it to look like it came from World War II, I bought an Auto Ordnance. It was made in America, priced right, and accurate looking enough to look like it came from the war. I couldn't be happier with it. Yes, stripping it is more of a pain than modern guns, but you are talking about 100 year old technology. The more you shoot that gun, the more you understand that John Moses Browning was a genius. Gadsdon Glock was a genius as well, but his guns have no soul. My 1911 has a soul... kind of hard to explain, but you have to own a .45 and a Glock to understand. I wouldn't hesitate to purchase another Auto Ordinance if I wanted another 45. That being said, you made a fine choice with your Kimber. Have some fun with it.

That's a fine firearm. Congratulations on the purchase.

Oh, man... sounds like a great test case. A right delayed is a right denied. "Your honor, my client moved into an apartment 100 feet away from the one he previously resided in and he lost his right to purchase firearms and ammunition for 30 days." This just goes to show you that the NICS system is old, flawed, and just inconveniences the law-abiding.

IMHO get an Otis Pistil cleaning kit. It will grow as your collection grows. Don't use the CLP that comes with it. CLP is great if you are in the Army and need Cleaner Lubricant and Preservative in one so you don't have to carry three bottles. Buy a tube of Militec or Gun Butter as your lube and you'll be good. Get a pack of q-tips and a cheap dental pic from CVS and you are in business. Did the SR-22 come with a bore punch? If it did, then all you really need are q-tips, a rag, a dental pic (or paperclip) and lube.

I may have a little bit of insight into this. About four years ago, I carried a Beretta M9 in a thigh holster every day. This lasted about two months. I switched to a belt holster and occasional shoulder holster when I was wearing pants that didn't have belt loops. I never looked back at the thigh holster. The one thing that nobody here mentioned is that thigh holsters chafe... you need to wear under armor underwear or some kind of spandex shorts under your clothes if you want to wear a thigh holster. #1. The S is never going to HTF. #2. If the S ever HTF, we will still be subject to New Jersey law for a few days. If you are running around with a trauma plate and chest rig with a thigh holster, a police officer or National Guardsman is going to shoot you. Maybe this wouldn't be the case in Alabama, but it sure as hell would be here. Just because the SHTF doesn't mean that police are suddenly going to be okay with you walking around with a gun. If anything, they will be even more on edge about guns than they are now. #3. Thigh holsters work really well for women or small men who are cops and simply don't have enough room on their waist for all of the crap their department makes them carry on their duty belt. A thigh holster frees up some room. It's still uncomfortable as hell, though. When you are sitting down and a lefty, the thigh holster usually flops to the left and pulls on your pants. You have to tighten it to get it to sit right, but it does it anyway. #4. Don't be this guy: This is the type of guy who has a box of thigh holsters. Do you really want to be this guy? I think he is most likely to get killed by a cop in the first 11 seconds of SHTF while he is giving his righteous sheepdog speech. All that being said... if you really want a thigh holster, look into a Safariland ALS Tactical holster. It will cost you about $150, but you can get one for the Glock 19 and it is very comfortable. It also has retention features, which is important when you are carrying gun that is now a mile away from your hand. Best of luck, but in my opinion, that $150 for a thigh holster would be better spent donating to NJ2AS so one day you can buy an IWB holster and exercise your rights like a free man.

If you are a sport shooter or hunter or you only use guns for fun, it is "safer" to keep them unloaded with the ammunition separate. That being said, I can take a gun, load it, and leave it on the kitchen counter for the next 20 years. It will never go off unless I pull the trigger. If you are keeping a gun for self defense, I think that it should be loaded. An unloaded self defense gun will rapidly become the bag guy's gun. Now there are stages of "loaded." I use the same terms that the Army uses: Red : Meaning magazine in, round in the chaber Amber: Magazine in, empty chamber Green: Empty magazine, empty chamber. I have two guns in my home that are "set up" for self defense: My Kel Tec PF9 is red and in a small safe by my bed. My wife's CX4 is locked up in a case in the closet. That is red as well. Everything else is kept in a safe downstairs in my basement. I used to keep the guns in that safe green. Meaning empty with the ammunition stored in the safe. After hearing about Dr. Pettit, and realizing that I may be locked in my own basement with my family burning to death upstairs, I started keeping those guns (mainly sporting shotguns) amber. So, yes, I do keep the guns loaded. I also keep the ammunition in the safe with the guns. I do believe that ammunition should be locked up in addition to the gun, although I would not call you irresponsible if you simply stored it on a shelf. It's just what feels right for me. But if you don't have kids, or kids never come over, there are no laws requiring that you keep ammunition separate.

Yeah, a lot of these people start out in bad neighborhoods because that is the only place that they can afford. Here, it's the Indians and Dominicans. In LA It's Koreans. Only Korean store owners aren't afraid of arming themselves. Maybe it's because all Koreans must serve in the Army and so culturally, they are less afraid of guns? Or maybe it's because even in California it's easier to get a handgun (10 day waiting period) than in New Jersey? I'm not sure. For a lot of inner city people, these Bodegas are where they shop - I don't think there is once supermarket in Camden.

I think there is some merit to the theory that if the store owners are armed, the odds of violence increase. If you are intent on robbing a store and you know the owner is armed, you will go in with a few buddies and shotguns. If you know the store owner is probably unarmed, you will go in with one gun. But honestly, wouldn't you just try to go to a store where the owner wouldn't fight back? I knew a kid from Jersey City who had been a gangbanger once. Now, you never let the truth interfere with a good story, but him and a friend claimed to have robbed a store once when he was a teenager. The kid had a .22 caliber target pistol with 8 rounds. His friend had a Glock 22 with no ammunition. They got away with nothing because the Bodega worker brandished a machete and they were tripping over themselves to run out the door. I know...This kid is no Clyde Barrow. But don't forget, these guys come to this country and work their asses off. To tell them, oh, you should buy a vest for $400 is laughable and a gun for $600 is laughable. They can't afford to take off work to get fingerprinted. So every time they open their doors, they roll the dice with whoever comes inside. So I do like the idea of them getting bulk discounts on vests or help in filling out FID forms. Better yet, get rid of the FID entirely... oh, one day...

I think there are a number of factors to the shift: #1. More states are allowing carry. #2. We just spent 10 years fighting two wars. Now you have about a few million people who were in the military and served in combat. I'm not talking peacetime stuff where they took their weapons out of the arms room once every six months to qualify. I mean every day carrying their weapons. At least 20% of these vets are women. Now, when these people go back into society, guns just aren't as scary as they once were, and heck, maybe they want the Beretta M9, Mossberg 590 or M4 that they had in combat. #3. I don't think you can discount the Call of Duty theory. All of those kids that grew up playing Modern Warfare and Call of Duty graduated to Airsoft. And now that they finished college and have a job and a little bit of money, they are discovering that they can buy some of those guns for real - and they are.

+1 I wasn't there.

IMHO, if you have a gun, you need a safe. We are our own worst enemy sometimes... At the least, keep it in the case it came in and wrap the cable lock around your bedpost. It may not stop a determined intruder, but it could stop a kid or opportunist. And anyway, I don't want to be out a $600 gun... then you are waiting at least 30 days for new permits.

I have never fired the HiPoint or Sub 2000. I have fired the MP5 and the CX4 Storm. I can tell you that I would 100% trust the CX4 Storm with my life. The CX4 is basically my home defense gun. With 15 + 1 inside the magazine well and 2 more 15 round magazines on the sidesaddle magazine holder I feel pretty well protected against anything that my come in my house short of a tank.

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Yes, you can. People here do it all the time. Just make sure it's NJ legal before you bring it back into the state. If you buy a non-NJ compliant rifle in DE, make sure you have them to the compliance work before you bring it back here.

I would not feel undergunned with a pump-action shotgun. I would estimate that at a city council meeting with an active shooter, you are dealing with across-the-room ranges. There isn't much that 6 rounds of buckshot can't handle across a room. It just seems funny that the police would be willing to spend $10,000 to get what is theoretically "less capable" weapon. The UMP looks cool, but with a shotgun and 6 rounds of buckshot, I effectively have more ammunition than the UMP - 54 rounds of .32 caliber lead instead of 30 rounds of .40 caliber lead Perhaps the police are trying to be "surgical" which is harder to do with a shotgun, but when you weigh the odds of an event happening with the cost of purchasing the weapons, there may be more effective uses for that money.

A happy new year to all of my members of the tribe. May the year 5773 bring all of your rounds to center mass and a New Jersey carry permit to your wallet. Oh... and may you have health, luck and a little bit of money for you and your family. L' Shanna Tova

Perhaps it was... I did write it quickly at work. First off, we can say anything we want from behind the safety of a keyboard, and in a real situation, who knows what we would do? I would like to think that I would give a warning. Even a loud "The police are on their way. Get out of my house." But if you have the time to do that, are they really a threat? Maybe you could do that from the upstairs, but am I going to do that when I come face to face down a hallway? What I'm trying to get at with the first point is that if the situation is bad enough to point, it is bad enough to shoot. I also have a feeling that that anybody who is pointing (and LEOs are the exception) a gun does not necessarily intend to use it. They are pointing and not shooting because they are scared to death of using it. Read "On Combat" and "On Killing" by Dave Grossman. These books basically state that most people simply do not have the faculty to kill other human beings. Grossman writes that the Army discovered in World War II that only 20% of all soldiers actually fired their rifles at the enemy in combat. What were the other 80% of the soldiers doing? They were either avoiding combat by helping with the wounded or shooting, but not actually aiming at the enemy. Even the fear of death won't get some people to shoot. This is why the Army stopped having soldiers shoot at bulls-eyes and started to have them shoot at man-shaped silhouettes. This is operant conditioning. You see a threat, you verify the threat, you shoot. You make it ingrained in their brain so that it removes the emotional fear of killing. That being said criminal drops the knife, and they are no longer a threat. You don't shoot. Of course, they could be 7'4" and 400 pounds. Are they still a threat? But if you are threatened, you don't hesitate. You don't point and threaten. You shoot until the target is no longer a threat. Someone who is breaking into my car is not a threat. I wouldn't go outside of my home and hold a gun on them. I would stay in my home and call the police. The only reason a non-LEO has to point a gun at someone is to shoot. If they weren't a threat, you shouldn't be pointing a gun at them in the first place.

Ok, things work differently here. If you bought your gun in CT, it is 100% legal to own it here, as long as you don't own a NJ defined assault weapon or something on the banned list. I may be making assumptions about a 40 year old single mom. But my guess is that you have either a 9mm pistol or .38 revolver. Whatever you have is probably fine, although you should let us know. There are basically three types of permits in New Jersey. #1. Your FID or Firearms Purchaser Identification Card. This is a little manila card that allows you to purchase rifles and shotguns as well as ammunition in New Jersey. #2. A Pistol Purchase Permit. This allows you to purchase a pistol. I assume that you already have a pistol, so unless you want another handgun, you don't need this. #3. Firearms Carry Permit. You will never, ever get this. Of anything, you need an FID, especially if you intend to purchase ammunition. Go to your local police department and ask them for a form for a Firearms Identification Card. Fill out the form, supply two references of people who you know will be nice enough to return the investigations paperwork in a timely manner, and then sit back and wait. You should get your FID in about 30 days, although it could be longer, depending on the town. Welcome to New Jersey and the Forums. Now watch this video and show it to all of your friends:

I'm sure there was some kind of escalation of force... shotguns with less than lethal, FN 303's. Marines are not the kind of people who panic easily. It's easy to second guess those guys from the safety of your computer, but my guess was that they weighed the option to fire with the risk. Sadly, the destruction of an American flag is not enough justification to slaughter people wholesale. Once you turn on the Marines, you may not like the results. They are very good at what they do.

IMHO, the only way I would ever point a gun at somebody is if I was going to use it. A gun is not there to de-escalate a situation or settle an argument. It's there to stop the threat before the threat can hurt you or your family. My car is insured. I would not come running out of the house to scare a bad guy away from my car. It's a car. I can get another car. I would make sure my family is safe and call the police. If the scumbag comes into my house, I have 45 reasons why he doesn't need to be there. Personally, I'd rather him be out by the car.

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PM me, Kris, I'm the guy that put this together for NJ2AS. Ryan

And cue Vlad in 3...2...1 He's probably the best guy to answer this question.

I would add: when you look at a menu and think of the meals in terms of boxes of ammo you could buy.