mcbethr

^^^^^^^^^^^^ This. I hate Glocks, but I won't let my bias influence my suggestions. It's the Goldilocks of guns. I would also look into the M&P Compact and the PX4 Compact. Here's why: All 3 guns fall into this sweet spot of size where they are concealable under the proper cover garment, but also work well as range and HD guns. IMHO, the PX4 Compact is the ideal gun if you like DA/SA triggers and cream-puff recoil. If you are near the Cherry Hill area, you are welcome to come to the range with me sometime and see for yourself. If she has smaller hands, I would suggest looking into the Kahr line of firearms, since those are mainly single-stack and could fit her well if she has smaller hands. Whatever you do. don't steer her toward a .38 snub. My blood boils when I see gun store owners shoveling first time shooters Ladysmitths. Thanks for introducing a new shooter. Best of luck to her.

I don't have a Facebook account, but If any of those cartridges are hollow points, he his committing a felony. Someone should point that out.

.22LR? Hey, that 300 Blackout is expensive...

Hopewell has a population of 1,922. people. Cherry Hill has a population of 70,000 people. Hopewell probably has 1 or 2 applicants per week to process, if that. Cherry Hill has more like 20. I think it's just simple math.

The bottom of a pint...

Ok, here's some more evidence. Lou Greenwald tried to bring down capacity in NJ to 10 from 15 just last year ago, which got me involved in the fight. He didn't get the bill passed after the Gabby Giffords shooting, he won't succeed again. And that is in New Jersey. Do you think that a capacity bill has a chance of passing in a place like Ohio which just got CC just a few years ago? Absolutely not. Where has Stender's A1216 bill gone? Nowhere. The pro gun world starts about 8 miles into PA and crosses this entire country with little pockets of resistance like Chicago. It ends about 20 miles from the West coast when it hits LA and San Francisco. Why doesn't good stuff about guns get reported in the news? Well, where are most of the media outlets? New York and LA - well within that Anti-Second Amendment bubble. Firearms are a way of life for many people in America, they won't stand for their rights being taken away.

Nothing will happen. This is an election year. The Democrats aren't stupid and remember 1996. If people other than The Usual Suspects (Lautenberg/Schumer/McCarthy) were speaking out, I would be mildly concerned. But I think the Dems are quietly hoping this just goes away. Further edit... We are moving toward more openness, not less. Wisconsin just got Concealed Carry. Wyoming just went to Constitutional Carry. There have been record numbers of NICS checks. We will be fine, but we have to keep fighting.

You picked an excellent gun. Now go get the Advantage Arms conversion kit and shoot .22LR all day.

Short Version: Anything you have that is California Legal is *probably* good-to-go here, unless you have an AR pistol, a Tec-9 or something like those. You can't have over 15 rounds in a magazine, but California restricts you to 10, so you should be good on handguns. Once you get here, you are going to need to get a Firearms ID card in order to purchase ammunition or more firearms. I'm not quite sure how you would do that if you live on post (perhaps go though the state police). If you are living off post, you apply for your card in the town where you live. If you could give us a list of firearms that you plan to bring, we could help you out with what is legal and what is not.

My friend just bought one. We put about 80 rounds through it a few months ago and it worked well. It costs more than the M&P Sport, and less than the M&P 15 and seems to be getting very popular. I'm not into AR-15's (I like wood) but if I was, I would buy a Whindam.

Seems like M&P's are coming out of the woodwork. Someone else bought one today. Congratulations. It's everything the Glock should have been.

No, there was price shopping done. The one from Hagues came with night sights which added about $100 to the price. I think it was $699, which I don't think is bad for one with Trijicon night sights and a 30 day membership to the range. I've bought two guns there and was happy with them. The store looked bare, though. When I asked why, Dan said "The Election is cleaning us out."

As Patric F. McManus said in "Gunrunning" from his book "The Grasshopper Trap" once you get past your 4th gun, it becomes "What do you need all of those guns for?" *GUNS* as in collective. And if you always keep 3 empty spaces in your safe, she will never know as your collection rises from 4 to 60.

You know, I do want to toss out one more option: Do nothing. For years, my wife never had a problem with me owning a gun, she just didn't want to shoot it, touch it, or get anywhere near it. I tried for a while, but backed off. She finally shot my CX4 about... 4 years ago. Then I convinced her to shoot my Beretta 92FS since that is our second "home defense" gun. She isn't interested in shooting my 1911, PX4, any shotguns or .22 rifles. She doesn't like it. She doesn't enjoy it, and feels fine knowing how to use the CX4 and 92FS. Moral of the story? I had to back off. She will never enjoy shooting (although she is an excellent shot). If you are at the point where she is "letting you" buy a gun for her, then you are almost guaranteed that she will never shoot it. The nightstands and vanity drawers of free America (ie: outside of NJ), are filled with .38 Ladysmiths and .32 ACP Beretta Tomcats that some well-intending husband "bought for" his wife because he thought she needed it. So she sighed and fired it once and threw it in her vanity. I had a few hundred to spend once because my wife agreed that I could buy a new gun from money left over from putting in a new floor. I posted a question on this board about what I should get, stating that I was already pretty well covered for handguns. Do you know what someone suggested? "Don't buy a new gun that you don't need. Take your wife out to dinner." He was right, damnit! And I did.

Look at the LCR in .2. It's DAO, instead of DA/SA but that adds to the simplicity. It has 8 rounds which is another box to check. A .22 snub is the worst of both worlds for a self-defense gun and for a woman. But it is DAO, so she can't screw it up, it's light weight, and won't recoil. She will probably like it precisely for those reasons even though she probably won't be able to hit a darn thing outside of 15 feet. I have trouble shooting with snubbies and I shoot every week. But it makes her (and you) happy and comfortable, it is better than not having a new gun at all.

I agree. Not a bad deal. Could be a little better, but not bad.

I always give a vendor credit when I have a positive experience. I went to Hagues tonight with another forum member who was buying an M&P9c. I mentioned some problems that I had with my PX4 Compact - how it occasionally failed to feed, which I attributed to limp-wristing. Dan asked to take a look at it. I had it in the car and brought it inside. Nick took the whole thing apart, cleaned the entire gun, checked the extractor and lubed it up again. They didn't charge me a dime for this. I put 80 rounds through my PX4 without a problem tonight. I usually get one or two failures to feed per range session, so maybe in addition to my limp-wristing, I'm under-lubing the rotating barrel. Still, I had a very positive experience. Some people don't like Hagues because they feel that they are overpriced. I think that sometimes there is a big difference between price and value.

Gun-deals.com/ammo.php I rarely see .38 special on sale, though.

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Like I said, the only problem I have with using bulk plinking ammo is that the quality may be iffy. With self-defense ammo, all of the rounds have to work without fail. I would use match grade or High Velocity ammunition. Remington Thunderbolts come to mind. I would do a little more searching, but I am at work and most of those domains are blocked. I had a friend of mine who lived in rural PA. The only gun he had was a Ruger 10/22 loaded with Remington Subsonic rounds which he kept to dispatch snakes and foxes who bothered his chickens. The rounds were subsonic since he often grabbed it at a moment's notice and a fox won't give you the time to put ear protection in. I'm sure it could have been used in a self-defense role quite effectively. My guess is that bad guys don't care what what caliber you have. All they see is a gun and that will make most criminals decide that they no longer want to be around.

The number one rule of a gunfight is to have a gun. The .22 LR round is probably the best all-around do-anything cartridge on the planet. If you are comfortable with the .22 then you have your answer. If the .22 is the only gun that you can use because you are recoil-sensitive, then you have your answer. Fidel Castro started his revolution in Cuba with .22 Rifles. Ask Batista if they were effective. The Virginia Tech shooter used a .22 Walther P22 along with his Glock 19. Sadly, we know how that turned out. IMHO, there are better calibers for HD. My biggest fear with .22 would be jams from faulty ammunition, but it should't be a problem if you use the quality stuff and stay away from the bulk packs.

Sometimes it seems like the main goal of the NRA is to sell wine and cheap Chinese knives... But I would say that the main goal is to increase membership. The NRA has roughly 4 million members. If we had 40 million members we would have anyone we damn well please as president. Note that the Brady Campaign has roughly 20,000 members.

I think the SP101 and the Smith used moon clips. Although I have heard of a Smith revolver that headspaced on the mouth of the cartridge. These were bought by Israel for the Palistinian police because they wanted them to have commonality of ammunition with the Israeli Army (who was supplying the ammo and training) but also wanted them to have a less effective weapon than the Israelis (who I believe used the HiPower at the time). I found a link about this: http://vintagepistols.com/range_report_S&W_547.html

IMHO, if it's a 15 round magazine and the springs get a little loose, it's still a 15 round magazine. There are 15 dots in the window. You bought it as a 15 round magazine. But if you can fit a 16th round in there, then your springs are losing their tension should probably be replaced. You can buy new springs for a couple of bucks from the manufacturer or from Wolf.