mcbethr

MINE! MINE!

Especially since this is NJ and you will be let out in 3-6 months - but only if you are not a law abiding citizen who was just stopping for gas on his way to the range.

I attribute the lack of training to its reputation more than anything else. The Army focuses on the rifle. Then when a soldier goes overseas that throw an M9 at him and tell him to go kill. It's a fine weapon. And the author is right. If we had gone with the Sig P226 20 years ago, people would be complaining about that.

This is why I have both a coathanger and a cleaning rod in my range bag. A pencil or pen will do in a pinch.

My father and I have a deal. He doesn't bring up my love for guns. I don't bring up his love for the Philadelphia Eagles. But that being said, There are basically three types of anti-gun people. #1. Social Identity #2. The Misinformed #3. The Ambivalent You can change #2 and #3 by taking them to the range. But people who are #1 are so ingrained in their thinking that... well, imagine if someone thought they would be able to change your opinion if they just sent you an article or took you to a rally, or had a victim of gun violence speak to you. Does anybody on this board actually think someone can change their minds about firearms? It's pretty much like that for the people who base their social identity around being anti-gun. You just have to agree to disagree.

I would suggest that you take a look at Bob's Little Sport shop.

I would say it would be pretty much the same as any one who is a non-gun-owner. Stay in your home, keep to yourself and try to find food when you can. A Second American Civil War would make Yugoslavia look like Romper Room. There is nothing romantic about it. If you have any romantic notions about grabbing your AR and charging the barricades at the statehouse your life will be brutal and short. Don't forget that this isn't paintball. This isn't airsoft. These are real bullets. And once your buddy's head explodes you will have second thoughts about what you came to do. I have been to war. It's not romantic. It is blood and piss and $hit and raw, mind-numbing fear. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for overthrowing tyrants. But I think we romanticize that 1860-1865 period of our history as gunsmoke and campfires and "give 'em the steel boys!" The re-enactors never re-enact the hospital tents of crying boys and the mountains of sawed-off limbs. If there was a genuine civil war in this country, you would probably be too busy trying to feed your family to do much fighting. NJ is able to eat because of the PA turnpike and I-95. Cut those two arteries and 8.7 million people, along with New York, essentially starve to death. Your weapons or duties during a civil war would be the least of your concerns.

The only time I "carry" at home is when I'm trying out a new holster or back when I got my Florida permit and I practiced carrying in different outfits. I did carry after Sandy but put the gun away when the power came back on. I have carried before when people have come to my house to buy stuff they found on craigslist. If you have bought a gun from me, I was armed as you were signing the paperwork in the garage. I am a trusting sort, but as the Arabs say, trust in Allah, but tie your camel.

Charter Arms? One of the five boroughs?

About 10 years ago I came into my National Guard armory to drop off some paperwork. I had the day off of work, was in civilian clothes and wearing sandals. Trust me, this bit of information is important later. My first sergeant happened to be there and asked me to go help out in the arms room. There had been a water leak in the arms room of a different company the night before so they had stored their weapons in our arms room. I was somewhat reticent, especially since, #1, I wasn't getting paid to do any work and #2 I didn't want to get stuck there all day. But, he's still my first sergeant and I respect him whether I'm getting paid or not. So I went to the arms room. The arms room door was open and a private on guard duty sat outside in a folding chair. He jumped up when he saw me and asked if I could relieve him for a minute while he went to the latrine. "Of course," I said. And he left. Then I noticed the condition of the arms room - it looked like crap. Weapons were strewn everywhere - basically the result of soldiers throwing weapons into our arms room as fast as possible to get them out of the water. This included .50 caliber machine guns. About 8 of the machine guns were standing up, balanced on their barrel shrouds like stalagmites. I thought: "What a stupid way to store a machine gun. If someone nudges it, it will fall over." Keep in mind the .50 Caliber M2 machine gun weighs about 82 pounds... So I went over to the collection of machine guns to place them flat on the floor when I accidentally nudged one. The gun tipped over and fell, right into another machine gun, which tipped over and fell into a third machine gun... which landed on my left toe. You know how in Tom and Jerry when an anvil falls on Tom's foot he jumps up in the air and hangs there for a few seconds while screaming "YOWWWW!"? That actually happened to me. I think I actually defied gravity for a good ten seconds while screaming. The private came back just as I fell back to earth. The dialog went like this: "What happened, Sarn't?" "F#CK YOU!!!" And I pushed past him and hopped down the hallway to my first sergeant's office. I dragged my self into my first sergeant's office just as he looked up from his newspaper. "Top," I said. "One of the .50's cal's dropped on my toe. I think it's broken." Now my first sergeant had been a medic once. He told me to sit down and he squatted by my foot and slapped it with his hand. Again, I flew up in the air for a few seconds while screaming. "Yep, It's broken," he said. "I can tape it up for you. You can go to the hospital, but they're only going to do the same thing I'm going to do." I lost the nail a few days later. Maybe that wasn't my first gun injury, but damned if it didn't hurt the most.

In all honesty, it's more for trainers than regular people unless you feel you may want to get into training, or will become that friend who is always taking new people to the range. I was given a blue gun many years ago when I was an armed security guard to practice draw and reholster. It has its uses. Like the others said, buy some snap caps, make sure the gun is safe and the ammunition is either locked up or in a different room, and practice.

I go with this one. Just get the the Federal EFMJ, Corbon Pow-r-ball or Hornady Critical defense and call it a day. The state police has ruled that the above bullets are *not* hollow point precisely because the points aren't hollow - they either look like ball or have a polymer ball in the tip.

Yes. FOPA. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act As long as the gun is legal where you start and where you finish.

Well, the poll is probably correct. Look at it from the standpoint of ATV's. I don not own an ATV. I do not know anybody who owns an ATV. I have no desire to own an ATV. When NJ banned ATV's from public land I didn't care one bit. But who cared? I'd imagine a bunch of people in Jackson, NJ and Cumberland / Salem county. But for the majority of NJ residents - nobody cared. I've said this before: you know how beauty contestants wear a sash going from their right hip to their left shoulder. Well, NJ is kind of like that. The majority of the population stretches like a sash from Camden all the up in a diagonal slant to Princeton / West Windsor and then up I95 to Newark. If you live outside of that I95 band you really don't exist in eyes of the state legislature. Now how many people inside that band do you think own ATV's? Not as many as who live in Jackson and Forked River and Salem/ Cumberland County or way up north in West Milford. Think of firearms the same way. If only 14%-20% of people in NJ own guns, then you could ban everything form an AR-15 to a pea shooter and it just wouldn't effect most of your voters. So why should they care about your gun rights? I think this basically all started with the FID. The FID made it a pain for casual gun owners, that is people who just want to own one gun for home defense, to go out an purchase a gun. So who owns the guns? Well for the most part, the people who need a gun for their sport - the hunters and trap shooters. Where do they live? Jackson and Forked River and Salem/ Cumberland County or way up north in West Milford. NJ basically has 2 types of gun owners, the hunters and the enthusiasts. Basically nobody goes through all of those headaches just to buy one gun to throw in a nightstand the way people do in PA. So the poll is probably correct.

The common area is the key. If I live in an apartment, I can carry in my apartment, but I can't go check the mailbox with my gun. Depends. If you mean "carry" as in bring it to and from in a locked container, yes. That is okay. On your hip? Well, I would say that if the range owns the property and parking lot, yes. If they don't then no. Yes, you can have hollow points at your place of business. You can carry them at your place of business. But if you transport them to and from, they fall under the same exemptions as a handgun.

Oh, you're new here ... Yeah, that's pretty much NJ in a nutshell. Yes, it doesn't make sense, and in a way it makes perfect sense. You can carry your gun around at home. You can carry your gun around at work. You can bring your gun between those two places. Now, keep in mind, if you if are leasing a business that.. let's say is in a mini-mall, you can't carry that gun out your door into the parking lot (no common areas). But if you own the entire property or you are leasing a free-standing business you are free to carry, load and unload anywhere you want.

Well, it probably should be changed, but do you want to be the politician that proposes that? I don't know how old you are, but you may not remember this. Many years ago there was a brand of ammunition called "Black Talon" which was coated with a special kid of polymer that was designed to protect the rifling of the gun. The bullet was one of the first "hollow points." In 1993 a guy used these bullets in a shooting spree in a law firm. The media and the Brady Campaign clung onto the "polymer" and started calling Black Talons "Teflon-Coated Cop Killer Bullets" which were designed to explode and shred into flesh, sending bits of metal through the body. I am not making this up. So these was widespread outrage that this stuff was being sold to civilians. Surgeons were afraid that if they were operating on somebody who had been shot with one of these bullets, they may cut their finger on a shard and contract HIV. In NJ, Governor Florio was proposing the state's first "assault weapons" ban. You couldn't really ban "Black Talon' ammunition so they just concentrated on the hollow point ban. Now, who wants to be the first politician to bring back the transport of hollow-point ammo. I'm sure the Star Ledger would dust off the old "Cop Killer Bullet" binder and go to town. Just get some Corbon Pow-er-ball, Federal EFMJ or Hornady Critical Defense. None of those are considered "hollow point" although they have the same effect.

You know, I did have to do a next-of-kin form. This is the first time I've applied for new FID in years, so I honestly don't remember if the form was there before or not. I do know that CHPD sends a letter to your spouse, which is a pain. But NJ2AS will get to them eventually.

So I moved in Cherry Hill and had to change my address. I went to the Police Department and was met with all smiles. They didn't take my old FID and didn't demand any extra paperwork. When I went to TD Bank to get the $18 money order the conversation went like this: Me: "Good morning, I need to get a money order." Clerk: "No problem, it's going to cost $5.00. How much is it for?" Me: "$18." Clerk: (Grinning) "Oh, hell, I'm not going to charge you the fee. What are you gonna buy?" And we BSed a bit about guns for a few minutes while he wrote up the money order. I think there are more of us out there than we think.

Dude, everybody owns a Glock. If you like it, buy it. Life is too short to buy guns other people think you should have.

I think you probably *could* but the slide, spring and extractor might have something to say about it - It's probably a lot heavier. 10mm is a little bit longer so .40 cal will probably rattle inside the magazines. There are probably headspace issues as well. I bet you could in an emergency, but it probably isn't ideal.

You know... that might not be a bad choice... I quick search of the internet reveals that there is plenty of 10mm around and it's going for about $0.50 per box, which is about as much as .45ACP. And I can't find .45 ACP. Can you throw a .40 S&W barrel on the thing as well?

I actually remember the days of cash pay and the paymaster with his loaded .45 in a shoulder holster. But I guess the fact that I remember the .45 shows my age.

I think the biggest problem is genetics, not emotion. A soldier can carry roughly 1/3rd of his own body weight indefinitely without becoming fatigued. All of the crap I wear, from my vest to my rifle and everything in between weighs about 60 pounds. Find me a woman who weights 180 pounds, is physically fit, and is graduating high school. Maybe there are one or two on the basketball or volleyball team, but for the most part, they don't exist. It's like unicorns or... AR-15 Shotguns. I honestly wouldn't have a problem serving with female infantry, but they better be able to keep up.

You guys need to read "Gunrunning" by Patrick F McManus from the book "The Grasshopper Trap." In a nutshell, your wife is usually ok with the first gun. Her eyebrow gets raised at the second gun. But the trick is to get to the third gun. Then it becomes "What do you need all of those *guns* for?" See, *Guns* as in plural, the collective. And as long as you have at least 3 empty spaces in your cabinet, your collection can grow from 3 to 300 and she will never know the difference.