For others that carry at home, how do you carry and why?

 

I'll start;

 

I carry concealed at home as I do in free states so that I am consistent.  It also eliminates comments or concerns from delivery people or others that might stop in.  Plus, in this day and age, it is better that my Grandchildren don't happen to mention in school that Grandpa has a gun on his hip.

 

I carry a Glock 19 IWB in condition 3 in the house where I would not anticipate up close and personal surprise.  I practice the "Israeli Method" so that I am conditioned to do so.

 

I carry condition 1 outside NJ; thinking the worst that could happen because of my condition 3 practice is dropping a round.

 

Remembering to lock up the gun when leaving the property and feeling naked without it are the only drawbacks I've encountered.  My wife has gotten into the habit of asking "Are you Packing" before we leave the driveway, just in case I forget.

 

 

Just out of curiosity.........Is Wayne, NJ a particularly hazardous town, perhaps an area in transition?

Just out of curiosity.........Is Wayne, NJ a particularly hazardous town, perhaps an area in transition?

Not that I am aware of, but I am on a main road to Paterson

condition 3 in a serpa paddle holster. When I can anyway, my wife doesn't much care for it but its quicker than fumbling in a closet. If a door was left unlocked or was kicked in rather quickly I would like to be ready.

Nope.  Don't have any reason to.  I always have a knife on me anyway.  My dumbass would forget I was carrying, and run out to the Wawa for some milk with it still on me.

Just out of curiosity.........Is Wayne, NJ a particularly hazardous town, perhaps an area in transition?

doesn't really matter how safe or dangerous a town is. People come from Newark all the time to rob houses in wealthy Bergen/Passaic county towns. It's in the local papers all the time and sometimes the cops manage to catch them. Couple robberies at gun point in the stores witch expensive merch and bank robberies too. They know people have there guard down.

I carry at home when trying out a new holster. When doing this I carry the weapon with an unloaded magazine inserted.

 

I also carried during the hurricane when we lost power for a week and the only noise you heard for blocks was that of my generator running. In this case I had a loaded mag inserted, no round in the chamber (Cond.3)

 

Other than that, I keep firearms in separate, secure locations in key places in my house that I can easily get to in case of an emergency, all in condition 3. Having no kids makes that a little easier, however I do remove them and lock them in the safe whenever I have company over.

Yes, I absolutely carry at home. I open carry my Beretta 92fs OWB in either the Bianchi M12 with flap, or this leather fitted American Pride Holster* depending on what I'm doing/how much retention I need. (Goes without saying, I keep a round in the chamber with the safety on)

I choose to open carry because this is one of the few places where the law is 100% explicitly clear to be on the side of gunowners. It's one of the few gun rights we have left in the PRNJ, and I intend to exercise it fully.



*Shout out to this company for making a holster that I am VERY happy with, here in America, for an affordable price: http://www.amazon.com/Leather-belt-Slide-holster-beretta/dp/B0033ZCM96/ref=sr_1_33?ie=UTF8&qid=1380293278&sr=8-33&keywords=beretta+92fs+holster
 

I "carrry" a 7inch ar15 in my house with a 30 round mag.... And by carry I mean it sits within reach....

I would guess that your nice home in a nice are is far more likely to be burglarized than some apartment in the slums... Don't think because you live in a nice community you are safe... If anything think the opposite..

The only time I "carry" at home is when I'm trying out a new holster or back when I got my Florida permit and I practiced carrying in different outfits.

 

I did carry after Sandy but put the gun away when the power came back on.  I have carried before when people have come to my house to buy stuff they found on craigslist.  

 

If you have bought a gun from me, I was armed as you were signing the paperwork in the garage.  I am a trusting sort, but as the Arabs say, trust in Allah, but tie your camel.  

Can somewhat clarify a few terms for me?

 

Condition 1: bullet chambered?

Israeli method: trained with carrying not chambered, but racking when drawing?

Condition 3: I assume a combination of not chambered and something else?

Can somewhat clarify a few terms for me?

 

Condition 1: bullet chambered?

Israeli method: trained with carrying not chambered, but racking when drawing?

Condition 3: I assume a combination of not chambered and something else?

The conditions were originally coined for a 1911 as below and of course it had an external safety and hammer:

 

Condition 0 - A round is in the chamber, hammer cocked, and the safety is off.

Condition 1 - furthermore known as "cocked and locked”, means a round is in the chamber, the hammer cocked, and the manual thumb safety on the side of the frame is applied.

Condition 2 - A round is in the chamber and the hammer is down.

Condition 3 - The chamber is empty and hammer down with a charged magazine in the gun.

Condition 4 - The chamber is empty, hammer down and no magazine is in the gun.

 

Adapting these to a Glock, condition 3 is the same whether it is cocked or not because racking the slide would cock it and as carried would make no difference.

 

You call a chambered round in a Glock condition 1 only because there is the trigger safety.  Purists might call it condition 0 because of the ease of getting off a round without addressing a safety.

 

You are correct on the Israeli method utilizing condition 3

Just out of curiosity.........Is Wayne, NJ a particularly hazardous town, perhaps an area in transition?

 

Last year there were a rash of burglaries in Wayne, so much so, the PD had a meeting with the public about it.  Overall, Wayne is a great town, but stuff happens.  Like we learned in Scouts..  "Be Prepared".   Occasionally at home I carry concealed condition 3.

If it's a firearm I use for home defense. It's stored condition 3 in a locked area. If it's carried or within arms reach it's condition 1 always. I always carry IWB the only time I might consider otherwise would be if i was hiking or working outisde but I still wouldn't carry it totally open.

Just out of curiosity.........Is Wayne, NJ a particularly hazardous town, perhaps an area in transition?

 

I used to live in Wayne.

 

It's not bad but it's near to Paterson so sometimes things can spill over. I haven't really seen any crime there and the Wayne PD is actually pretty good about patrolling and responding.

 

I would worry more about flooding than crime in Wayne. Wayne floods and it floods bad. 

I carry concealed at home IWB. I carry OWB outside when I'm in the woods sometimes. Sometimes I open carry. 

 

I always carry with a round in the chamber but the springfield has passive safeties so there's no manual safety to disengage. 

I don't carry in my home,I do however have several firearms concealed but within reach. I look at it this way,If it ever came to the point  I felt that a firearm has to be on my person in my own home at all times.....it's time to move or perhaps seek some help.......that IMHO is paranoia, plain and simple.

Now I venture that we all like firearms or we would not be here but there are some who's whole identity and psyche is so intertwined with what for most is a hobby that they lose sight of the ridiculousness of the whole scenario.

I don't stress that 40 ft separates me from a loaded firearm or what "condition" that firearm is in because if I did then the question must be asked.....Am I the master of the firearm or is the firearm the master of me?

Now again,we've all heard the old and tired cliches of "use it or lose it"",better to have it and not need it rather than the opposite" ect...ect... but in my mind I've made the best choices to insure my family's and my comfort ,safety and to consider me carrying a firearm in my own home is essentially surrendering to fear.

I rarely carry at home.

Carry Condition 3 all the time outdoors, sometimes to Condition 1, if I feel the need arises.  Rifle and Shotgun always within a few steps.  Live in the woods and critters always abound.  Mostly 4 legged, sometimes 2, especially during deer season.  I'm not Turtle Man and my neighbors know it.

This great info. Can someone clarify the home carry law and what the boundaries are? I understand inside the house structure is allowed, but does it apply to property limits ? Can I walk around my front or back lawn open or concealed carry? Thanks

No. I never even thought about looking for the safe combination after Sandy. Never mind opening the safe itself.

 

Certain circumstances could arise requiring this, I have no doubt. We've been looking for a new house, and some have been in relatively isolated locations. And I'm not going to call the police every time I need to investigate when a raccoon climbs down the chimney. But after Sandy in my present neighborhood wasn't enough for me to carry.

 

IIRC, you can carry on your own property, but can't cross the sidewalk to get to your mailbox, if you have a sidewalk.

Can I walk around my front or back lawn open or concealed carry?

Is it legal? Yes? Doing it depends on your neighbors and the local gendarmes.

I don't carry in my home,I do however have several firearms concealed but within reach. I look at it this way,If it ever came to the point  I felt that a firearm has to be on my person in my own home at all times.....it's time to move or perhaps seek some help.......that IMHO is paranoia, plain and simple.

 

My reason for home carry is that it is practical.

 

My house is 2700 square feet. Not overly big, but big enough that I can't have a firearm everywhere within reach. (up to last year I couldn't even have a wifi signal within reach but that is a different story).  

 

Then there is the issue of leaving firearms all over the house. I have kids. Do I really want loaded firearms all over the house, where my kids who get into things can find one? 

 

I guess I could get lock boxes for each floor and put a firearm in each one. But I would have to run to each one? I would have to also place them strategically and hope the crook doesn't draw his firearm on me before I can run for mine.

 

Then there's outside. I have 6 acres of property. I roam about it quite a bit. I'm unlikely to encounter a gang banger there but I could encounter a rabid wild animal. Do I retrieve my gun every time I go outside? I guess.

 

Or I could just carry all the time at home. No worry about having to reach, find, holster, unholster when going outside. No worrying about the kids getting my firearm from a place I thought they didn't know where I had a firearm. 

 

It's not paranoia, just practicality. 

 

Finally, people I know who live in free states simply keep their firearm on them when they are home. They can freely carry outside the home so they do, but they don't bother to take it off and put it away when they're home. 

This great info. Can someone clarify the home carry law and what the boundaries are? I understand inside the house structure is allowed, but does it apply to property limits ? Can I walk around my front or back lawn open or concealed carry? Thanks

 

You can carry (possess, actually) in your residence, premises or other land owned or possessed.

 

Basically you can carry anywhere on your property. In your home, on your front lawn, in your back yard, side yard, driveway (as long as it's yours), basically anywhere on your property. This does NOT mean you can carry in common areas in apartment buildings and probably doesn't mean you can carry on the sidewalk in front of your home. 

 

If you open carry your neighbors may call the cops on you. But that really depends on how well your neighbors know you and the general culture of your town. Out where I live people shoot in their back yards so it's not a problem. 

I started carring at home on and off after one of my neighbors had someone enter their home go upstairs to the kids room and fall alseep drunk. Luckily the kids were at school. The mother was home in a different part of the house. Also because I am home alone in a big house and I don't lock the doors when I'm on the property. I have 4 entrances because my house in on a hill. Someone could come in the basement door or the garden room and I wouldn't know they were there until i heard them and they wouldnt know I was home.

Also I don't believe in keeping any guns with ammo unlocked around the house. If they aren't in my reach they arn't in my control. In a case like I stated someone could walk in and go straight upstairs to a bedroom or other rooms and walk right into an unlocked firearm. I could lock firearms on every floor of the house but that isn't practical. I can just carry a pistol or rifle or shotgun and either conceal it, or if im not wearing pants or if its a rifle, bring it to every room and put it down within arms reach. Or I could start locking all my doors when I go in and out and I might have enough of a buffer zone to get upstairs to a locked firearm if someone broke in while I was home. I'd rather just carry.

I would worry more about flooding than crime in Wayne. Wayne floods and it floods bad. 

 

PORTIONS of Wayne Flood.  Other portions are inconvenienced by closed roads  but otherwise, I gave away my boat last year because the only water it saw in 6 years was rain.

 

That said, I prefer to have a gun on me if someone comes to the door.  I

This topic comes up about once a quarter

 

And every single time the same questions come up; "do you live in a bad neighborhood?". And "you must be paranoid"

 

I dislike those responses. Just let your brother in arms do what he wants to do in his property to feel better. More power to you my friend

 

I wish my wife asked me "are you packing?".

 

Now that's love.

 

And lastly to the idea of the open carry for the Cragslist responders? I frigging love that idea. (reference my response to thread about strangers in my house. I just learned a new idea "you carry a gun?". "yeah, I'm in the security business")

I "carrry" a 7inch ar15 in my house with a 30 round mag.... And by carry I mean it sits within reach....

 

Last summer I was sitting on my porch late at night and suddenly I heard 7 - 12 shots (after the fact you can't really recall exactly how many) go off at what sounded like like maybe 100yds behind my house through the woods. I shut off all my lights and loaded up the only weapon I had at the time which was my Ruger 10/22. I found out the next day that 2 guys were murdered in a drug related event, but it was a good mile away. I live on the country outskirts of a small lower income town.

 

That, along with pending legislation, was what got me off my ass to finally get involved with owning real firearms. Now, I just sit my AR, cond 3, somewhere within my reach when I'm relaxing at home (no kids). And yes, I even bring it into the bathroom when I shower.