Old School

You have my condolences.

Guess he's pandering votes. Disgraceful!!

I think the fact that you clean is important. Also mid length or carbine length gas systems operate at slightly higher pressures so fuction may be a little more reliable. Lastly Spikes is a good upper and it must be properly gassed. Thanks for the info. Last question. 5.56 chamber?

Bold Black - I agree with you. I kind of pride myself in being able to pick-up almost any discard weapon and being able to use it. (except for some of the new stuff I haven't seen) So I see your SHTF point. And in todays urban BS situation you may only have access to the commie stuff. But to your point you had better have something in 7.62X39 laying around as well. Red - I only have one thing to say. I see so much ammo wasting at the range. Hardly even seems to be aimed fire. Now I'm not saying you... Now this me personally. I'd rather shoot 100 rounds of accurate amed fire with capable ammo than burn up the extra 50. Now I've never shot it but I think it's accepted that the commie stuff is less accurate than domestic. Hope I was careful enough not to offend...

I'm interested. There may be more to this than meets the eye. Why do some rifles shoot it and some not. What manufacturer of barrel, length of gas system, BCG? How many rounds between cleaning? I was accused of being adversarial but I'm not. I just love machines and seeing them working well. Maybe this warrants another thread but your info would be appreciated.

High horse? Like all the peeps that say DTI, Bushmaster and DPMS are NFG? Oh that High Horse? Or the High Horse that considers GLOCKs a POS? That high horse? It's all about opinions and if you can make a case for yoiur opinion why not. Guys saying .." I run this ammo but my gun short cycles or gets too dirty after 100 round" Wake up! Some thing is wrong. AR's were never made for steel cased. It may work sometimes. ARs being gas impingement are sensitive to chamber pressure and a clean gas system is important. Ask Timmy Turner. With bad ammo his rifle jammed and he took a shot in the chest blowing the top of his lung off.(1967) He's still around and you tell him about poor ammo in an AR/M16. I know these guys are at the range and not in the jungle but we should make every effort to have our weapons (yes that's what they are) function flawlessly. If you can't afford factory ammo, reload. If yoiu can't reload....Well better think if you can afford the sport. I may be in the minority because they sell loads of this ammo. But let's hope most is going into piston guns. I'm not condecending, but peeps should think before they ask question the answer may be obvious.

Dan can you PM me some load data on your 69gr BTHP. Just interested to see what others are doing.

Please do some research. Yes there is a difference between .223 and 5.56 NATO. and there is a difference between XM193, XM855 and 5.56 NATO.

You have an AR that kicks. Where did you get it ? Is it special... Do you use the Tula for jam clearing drills? Spend extra money for a BCM and shoot $hit ammo... Wonderful! Just Fukin' Wonderful...

Prices look good Falcon Oil, Oak Ridge $3.62 which is pretty good up north here.

In principle I agree Harry, and I gave you a +1... Here's the rub. We as a society cannot overlook irresponcible handling of a firearm. So you carry as you have the right to do so. But, if you F-up you pay a heavy price I mean heavy. The firearm retailers association should be pro active and take up on this training volentarily if they want to keep selling firearms. We here are all "gun nuts" and many know their firearms better than their significant others. This is not the case w/ all CCW peeps. The industry should step up.

GURU by NO MEANS! I just like machines. I personally run my rifles wet. But not the chamber. I actually use a bore guide as to keep oil/sovent out of the chamber. Yes I use a chamber brush but very seldom. There are loads of sources discussing AR lubrication. I'm sure somebody will chime in.

XM193 55gr is generally the cheaper of the mil spec ammo. You really don't need 5.56 NATO ammo you'll pay more for it. Boxer primed 55gr FMJ ammo unless you intend to something real serious. Any commercial .223 Remington should take good care of you and your rifle. Oh and save your brass,

Ammo and chambers should always be lube free.

Don't get attitude with me puppy....LOL Do you think Stoner or any of the engineers that have subsequently redesigned the AR/M16 platform ever intended the use of Steel cased ammo? Oh, the answer is NO! If the platform was ever intended for steel cased don't you think Uncle Sam would issue it? The first time you get a stuck case and end up trying to "mortar" the case out, I won't be the one crying. Believe me I understand the cost factor. But I love my rifles. Never abuse your rifles, your dog, or you wife.

I see you own a DD M4. Is that where you intend to use the steel cased? If so, let me start crying and whining immediately....

Oh yeah she got there on her own...

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For fear of stating the obvious. the manufacturer is Cutler-Hammer. Have you tries their catalogue? Really doesn't look to special.

Congrtats to all you guys! I found Victor and Luis but not Dan. Guess if I'm going to catch up to Luis I'm going to have to catch him at a match... LOL

I just reviewed the recent Shongum USPSA scores. I only recognized two names. But congrats you guys!

WOW!! I have a 22short 4 barrel derringer that fits in a pack of Marlboro box with the lid closed (believe I burned a permit on that?). I also have a 25 auto that was carried in my breif case for years, Now a days the only time the 25 comes out is if wearing a suit and Cowboy Boots. It's perfect clipped in a boot top. Now a days 9mm is my minimum carry caliber and the 22 and 25 hardly ever see day light. Rightfully or not I'm a little bolder about printing today. Back on topic...22 ahort? Better than a sharp stick but, you better know what you're doing.

Looks like a GLOCK knock-off from what I could see inside of the top of the slide.