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NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unless you're hunting

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can I inset a 20ga choke tube into a 12ga bore so I have e real full choke?

Nice and not totally over priced. And BTW they are called "Target Rifles" They've been around for years as you know. Welcome to the party You'll have loads of fun. I use one myself as a Precision Rifle trainer.

I just happen to be at the Fed LE Acad today and # 4 buck is what they're training with Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

A nice sensible traditional defense gun.

Correct a mondo!!!!!!!!!!! Bob does do excellent work. Know him well. But with the OP I believe there was a geographic issue. And Mike at T1Defense does excellent work as well.

Yes RPM is what stabilizes the bullet. But rate of twist has a greater effect on RPM than does velocity. And velocity is limited by the available limits of pressure. Thus we change the twist rate to increase RPM and rely less on velocity. All that being said. I drive 69gr bullets in a 1:8.75 twist as fast as is safe to obtain max stability and accuracy and it appears to work.

Allows you to shoot a bullet that you may think is marginal for your twist. Just allows you more options to experiment with.

OP - See Jack's taking care of you. Go for it! Reasonable and diverse.

OP - I read your post. I see your confusion. You seem all over the place. Are you going to buy just one shotgun or will you be buying a second in the future? Do you want strictly defense or dual purpose? (sounds like dual purpose to me) If so just get a 500 with two barrels. As far as overall length? Learn to carry it at port arms and you'll clear any doorway with the short barrel. As far as Mag capacity? It's all BS. As a defense gun you'll seldom need more than 5. The first shot most likely is the only one you'll need. Unless there are a swarm of zombies.

Chris - What I'm saying is Vortex may be over priced and there's good Jap glass equal or better that could be cheaper.

Ok if I sell it will be a 4-16 anyway. Just saying Vortex is nice but I think you can get more bang for the buck. What's the name worth to you?

Chris - you're right. If the rifle is decent it deserves better than that. When you're ready for glass let me know I may be upgrading Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

And why was the Night Train a disaster? Please explain.

Chrono?? Don't think so. Because velocities plateau at a certain point. Chamber? If it head spaces good the only thing that could cause pressure would be a short throat. Where a pressure drop should occur but doesn't. Then of course bad ammo. I'd love to see a chamber cast which is cheap and easy to do..

And if it's over gassed, why would it pierce primers?

I just arbitrarily looked on Gunbroker. A Varmint model scoped (who knows what kind of scope) for a little over $700 and it takes AR mags... and comes with a bipod? Hoky smokes Bullwinkle. Seems like a deal to me since I just paid $100 for a 10 rd, mag for my Savage Model 12.

You got your answer. Loading 45ACP for a long time never used them.

Yep that or the one that's a little cheaper but the same size. If you want to shoot mine you're welcome.

IMHO I don't like the Ruger, to many parts Your best affordable option is Kahr for a pocket pistol. It's the pistol GLOCK should have made.

That's true Vlad. If there was that kind of slippage you'd never be able to clean your barrel down into the grooves. Rods, jags and patches are made to engage the rifling. I could see something undersized slipping like worn out brush.

Dan - I use a good Tipton rod and a tight patch. There is NO slippage. The rifling engraved on the patch is proof of that.

Here you go!

Put a tight patch on a cleaning jag. Take a reference point Mark the rod and push it in one revolution and measure the distance between your reference Marks. That will be your rate of twist Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk