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I've been carrying for a couple years now. Almost all OC. Am I obviously looking for trouble?

That's pretty silly and many of you people are a little bizarre by American standards. I probably would have said the same thing you said when I lived in NJ for almost 30 years. I gotta tell you, once you move to America, and everything is legal, and there is rule of law and you are not afraid of cops, your perspective starts to change after a couple years. I've been OC'ing 99.9% of the time for the past few years in PA. Never had a problem with it. Encountered dozens of cops that noticed my sidearm. There is no need for a button or badge that says you can carry, and neither is going to mean a damn thing in Philly. This is not about carry, it’s about corrupt and criminal cops from what I read in the paper almost daily.

What is that buttstock? That looks bizarre. It looks short like the short one but even stranger. I never even fired the short one.

You clean? I just oil the lube holes in the BC before and after each trip. After a few trips I lube the upper and the BCG with oil without taking the bolt out. I will detail clean perhaps once a year. More for the purpose of inspection than the purpose of cleaning. I only shoot about 5K of 5.56 a year lately, though. But it worked when I shot more.

I know those are not your words but I think we are up to 40 states now. Plus three additional states that are essentially shall issue in practice is 43. Then Cali and NY are variable but pretty bad. 5 states are varying levels of No F'ing Way.

Are you aware that Mark has been working WITH the PPD for several months, trying to get them to educate their officers about this issue? He even got his police liason to have a new directive issued to all departments stating that OC in Philly is legal (even though the directive was not perfect). If it is his intention to trap PPD for monetary gain, why is he working so hard to educate them to stay out of his trap?

I don't think they would extend them that far if it were up to them. You might get the walls of your skull if they were feeling charitable.

I was at Labcorp a few weeks ago and I noticed that tiny little sign - on the way out. I was carrying of course. And I would have ignored the sign had I seen it on the way in. I choose to conceal whenever I go to medical facilities so it was not an issue. One of the only types of places in PA I routinely choose to conceal. Can't think of another one, actually.

At least twice a year, I do a BETA dump at Classic Pistol out of an 11.5" upper with a PWS comp. Sparks bounce off the walls and ceiling of the booth and come back and hit me with every shot. It's like a thundering roman candle. I get 15 years of gunshoot residue cleaned off the booth and deposited on me. The last two times I was there, they had Act 235 classes for mall ninjas in the classroom behind the bay. Both times, there were 30+ faces in the window and the RO came in and told us if we were going to shoot anymore FA we would have to move to the next bay because they couldn't control their classes.

I can't believe anybody could participate in 3 pages of this thread and then still wake up in Jersey the next day. Good grief. I never claimed to be an expert on the details, and who really cares anyway, since it's up to the cop and then the mood of the judge. Never a matter of rule of law in Jersey. But I thought I knew the basics after 30 years there. Reading this thread made me pick up a few details of the law that are even worse than what I thought.

You gave me positive rep for that? You should have neg repped me I'm tired right now but I remembered that from a friend of mine that is still waiting to get out of his silly NJ prohibition. A nation-wide prohibition for pushing somebody really hard that ran at him trying to carry out an attack. In NJ. Don't ask me to explain, I won't. If it sounds fishy to you, just disregard. Regardless, beware. There's a lot of misunderstandings that could happen in NJ and result in you never being allowed to touch a firearm or ammunition anywhere in The United States ever again, Amen.

I'm in the same boat. I like them, I'm glad my friends have them, but I'd rather shoot or carry something else. I'll put one in the safe some day but never pulled the trigger as of yet. BTW, I had no idea Zombies were this much of a problem already. Good thread. Don't let the NJ Supreme Court require that the state fund Zombies. That would be the end and I only have a few spare rooms for you guys on this side of the river.

Very good to know. You better talk to him about this nonsense: The guy thinks he won't be able to shower or tie his shoes. Or shoot a gun. Cagefighter - The worst problems in life are underdefined chronic problems like this that take time to try to fix. I'm pulling for you, bro. Nobody wants to get messed up. Worst case scenario, this is not going to make you unable to shoot or tie your shoes. That is rediculous. I appreciate you sharing your concerns and fears, but you gotta realize that you are panicking a bit. Everything will be OK unless you are on the USA Olympic Team. I'm sure you'll review your options in detail and take decisive action and come out on top no matter what they throw at you. Good luck and God Bless.

Are there felonies in NJ? I didn't think there were. What do you mean by M4?

Although I am very concerned about your condition, and wish you the best outcome, I hope you are not one of those guys that loses a pinky or toe and decides to give up because life has come to an end. I once heard anything like that can "throw your balance off" of something and you become useless. Actually, I heard that more than once.

Not interested in floating prisons, the entertainment and room service notwithstanding.

I did that a couple times a week as a kid. And the rest was the same, with parents etc., too. Except parents rarely were invited by the youngins and did not over-react the few times they did get told by some granola-crunching sissy that wasn't given life skills by his or her parent. And had eyes on the sides of his head and found his food on the ground, like his parents the sheep. As kids we had to learn to deal with our peers. And we did it ourselves. We would go to our parents for guidance, but they refused to fix all of our problems or walk around with us to make sure everybody treated us with rose petals and rainbows. When a real problem popped up, our parents would do what parents are suppose to do. Be the adult among adults. Then they said boys will be boys but they promised a body if things got out of hand. Just like in this case (the latter of the last sentence). And there was no involvement of cops. There was never any need. People knew the rules of Man, in New Jersey. And nobody worried about some asteroid coming out of the sky because of Columbine. Nobody should today, either.

You expect Cabelas to have NJ all figured out when all the people on here can't collectively do that? At some point they probably started selling a new product and the ever-present NJ issue came up and they decided not to deal with it after the last time they went through all the crap with .22. There's probably stuff they are not willing to put in the effort on to determine whether or not it's legal in NJ.

UMC ("Mega Pack") and Federal are about $0.20/round. WWB is $0.23/round. Dick's sale price is OK if you need a little right now. But it's not the best price and certainly not OK to stock up on.

That's just walmarts in PA. Gun shops, Cabellas, Gander Mountain all have all ammo (including pistol) out in the regular shopping aisles. Actually, now that I think about it, Dick's and Sports Authority have most of the ammo behind the gun counter. I guess those guys and Walmart are exceptions.

One that went bang when the trigger was pressed and impacted where aimed. Like most do.

New Jersey will be the last. Or, perhaps, never. You guys have been following Illinois, right? Illinois? LOL, that would be some stuff. Governer would veto but it appears they are close to what it would take to overturn. In NJ, you have the worst of both of those. Throw in the third aspect of the evil courts of NJ. This dogma and evil runs deeper and is more pervasive in NJ than any other place that is considered a state or territory of the Great United States of America. Legislative, Judicial, Executive, Citizenry, and Politically. We have people on this very forum posting questions on whether or not hollow points are legal in this state or that state LOL. Brainwashed, rinse-cycled, and dried. Present company excluded.

That's pretty interesting, thanks!

How bout it. I'll tell you, I've posted a lot of pics on this website... ...but I've never posted a pic of one of my semiautomatic firearms. For example: That is NOT a semiautomatic firearm

I voted for Jesus. Then again, God helps those who help themkselves. Move.