Cross post from another forum.

 

http://www.outdoorlife.com/photos/gallery/guns/2011/05/gun-killed-osama-bin-laden?photo=0#node-1001345432

Someone posted here that it was an HK416.

This is where a lot of the rumors are originating:

http://soldiersystems.net/2011/05/03/rumor-has-it/

"In before Multicam, Rubberband on stock, Piston AR, etc…"

 

ahaha. I wonder if the seals themselves even know for sure though.

What's even more interesting than the weapons used, is the helicopter(s) used:

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&newspaperUserId=27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7&plckPostId=Blog%3a27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%3a275902dd-e7a2-40fd-ab78-d46e3bf922b1&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest

 

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/05/aviation-geeks-scramble-to-i-d-osama-raids-mystery-copter/all/1

There are specially modified "stealth" versions of the UH-60, notably used by 160th SOAR. I'm not a rotor mechanic, and don't know those types of details, but these modified stealth-versions are real tech. Of course we're talking about being able to disappear off radar; bucket of bolts still sound like lawnmowers at full blast when they fly anywhere nearby. The rotor (as in the pictures above) are modified in that manner, I believe, to cut down on the thermal signature.

 

As noted in one of those articles, it is interesting to think of why the US would use such tech if Pakistan was in the know... could the compound have had some type of EW (early warning) system? Maybe. Still, an interesting caveat-- thanks for bringing it up, Pete.

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2011/05/army-mission-helocopter-was-secret-stealth-black-hawk-050411/

 

Apparently the SEALs used a heretofore secret variant of the UH-60 (or some other) helicopter in the raid on the compound that housed OBL. Due to some malfunction, one helicopter was forced to make an emergency landing and the team destroyed it so it would not fall into Pakistani hands. They did a good job except that the very tip of the tail rotor survived. Its unique design is what tipped off aviation experts that an unknown helicopter type was used.

What gun killed Osama?

 

One that went bang when the trigger was pressed and impacted where aimed. Like most do.

Colt 1911 in 45acp

One that went bang when the trigger was pressed and impacted where aimed. Like most do.

Precisely what I was thinking. I'm not nearly as concerned with what gun killed him....as I am concerned with the proof that it actually happened. And seriously....reading that crap about someones SPECULATION on which gun was used is just an exercise in futility. And somebody give this dude another +1 to offset the negative rep!!

Sig 9mm or an m4 most likely

If a rifle Im putting my money on the SCAR.

I saw this story from the NBC affiliate in LA. They're saying it was a Sig P226.

NBC report

Sig P226 is what I was thinking of. Probably with 9mm Winchester Ranger Talon

Now KRD I know you know that would be a Gen Con violation....

I doubt they were worried about that

HA! I dont. For example. 7.62 ammo snipers where using have a very small hollow point. This is not for expansion. It is for accuracy and smooth flight. Well some high brass nitwit belted out the claim it was a hollow point and cant be used. AND IT ACTUALLY GOT PULLED FROM THE FIELD!!!! Eventually it was overturned by some clearer thinking higher brass. But the point is they DO pay attention.

To be honest I don't need to know what gun killed him. If that bit of information tells the enemy even the smallest bit of information about how the guys that go in harms way are armed or act, it isn't worth it. In all honesty I wish all the news (and senators, and VP's) would be a bit more quiet about all the various details involved. I don't need to know this ****, even if I want to, and it may endanger someones life later.

More details the better, especially if they're coming from a million different sources. What better way to spread misinformation? Counter-intelligence 101

More details the better, especially if they're coming from a million different sources. What better way to spread misinformation? Counter-intelligence 101

 

Good point I guess, I'm just not sure our political leadership is that smart, though I suppose they can stumble into it by sheer incompetence.

This might be the gun;

http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/2011/05/09/77gr-of-justice-from-an-hk416-likely-last-thing-osama-bin-laden-saw/

HK416? Ooh. Still just rumors though

I don't get why we're so hung up on this. I keep reading these speculations of what people THINK killed OBL, **** we haven't even seen proof that this asshole is dead yet. This thread is pointless.

 

Flame suit on.

I don't get why we're so hung up on this. I keep reading these speculations of what people THINK killed OBL, **** we haven't even seen proof that this asshole is dead yet. This thread is pointless.

 

Flame suit on.

 

Agreed, but it's something to type about.

Then let's start speculating as to who we think is going to win Top Shot 3. We have absolutely no information or reason to believe any which way, but let's start discussing it like it will get us somewhere.

Agreed, but it's something to type about.

 

i guess people want to know. i can understand why.

people wanted to know where he was killed, what unit killed him,

what were they flying in, etc, etc.

 

just like when JFK,MLK,Lincoln, etc etc- was assassinated, Hitlers suicide shot in the head.

people wanted to know the gun and how it happened. just part of Americana i guess to want to know. i do ,lol

I agree with Vlad. I too believe that we are letting out too much info on this.

 

As for the gun, who cares. It was most likely a rifle, probably the short-barreled M4 or hell, it could have been an AK or MP5. You never know with Special Forces, that's what is so cool about them!

 

And in regards to the speculation that Osama is not dead, good luck with that. I would stop guessing if I were you, cause you will be guessing the U.S. for the rest of your life which ends up being a waste of time in my opinion. I wouldn't doubt we killed him, not only have we spent so much money and resources on him, him being killed was inevitable. And the fact that al-Qaeda is mourning his death, as well as the rest of his followers, gives pretty good evidence he is bending over 72 virgins right now.

 

As for the gun, who cares. It was most likely a rifle, probably the short-barreled M4 or hell, it could have been an AK or MP5. You never know with Special Forces, that's what is so cool about them!

 

 

 

All I know it was probably a cooler gun that we could own in NJ....

 

Harry

All I know it was probably a cooler gun that we could own in NJ....

 

Harry

 

Haha, I think we can all agree on that!