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Wow. When I read the thread title, I thought the question was going to go the other way - 'Can you carry on foot from a good place to another place?' I had no idea this was going to be about the legality of carrying from your car to a range, etc. This sucks. Not the thread, just the idea of putting up with that.

Make him wear a Road Guard vest and wrap him in caution tape.

1. NJ is still above sea level 2. I don't have any neutron bombs Go Go Global Warming!!! j/k

New Jersey!!! "Are You Sure You Want to Do This?"<superscript>TM</superscript>

I hear they are going to have specials on Hitler's cereal bowl, wigs, and Shamwows!!! (j/k, those are cliches ) It's a love/hate thing for me. I like Eagle Arms at Day's Inn (now called Rodeway) but last time there were some key people missing. There's nothing wrong with Forks, there's just a lot of junk in addition to the good stuff. There will certainly be more ammo there. Fortunately, I don't buy ammo at gun shows. Mostly.

You are the one paying 10 cents a round for Tok. I don't shoot Tok. Like I said, I thought about it. The SS barrel means nothing to me. I'm not worried about the upper. I'd be worried about the lower. And "The key is to clean it promptly" does not work well for me either. The real key is that buying an upper is not the end of it for FA. You are the guy that just said reloading is "extra work." Try playing with all this stuff in FA. You're not even willing to reload ammo. I don't blame you. It's just an example, everybody has their own thing they don't want to bother with. I'm pretty sure I'll do it on MAX-11. Thanks for the info on the upper. Hmmm....... don't tease me like that

I'm kinda with you. Except that I think WV is better than PA. I like NJ a lot as far as topograhy and geology goes. I like NJ better in that respect. I think. Except for the (comparative) lack of hills and "mountains." It's very easy to forget, though. America has a lot to offer, you don't have to move to PA. Anything you prefer is out there. Maybe Illinois is more your speed

I keep toying with the idea myself. Some of my friends do. It's funny, around these parts, the more people shoot the less likely they are to reload. That certainly does not hold around the country as a whole. There are lots of people out there that massively reload for shooting metric shitons of ammo. I just don't know any of them personally around these parts. Of course, you can't beat it for accuracy. Buying the Tok barrel for my MAX-11 will be tons of extra work. I'm going to buy a few mags that will not work out of the box for $40 each. If I can get the thing to work (far more work), then I have to make mags myself from Sten mags. And then hope those work. It is going to be a big commitment. The M16 is easier on paper but the uppers are not designed for FA so that’s a whole ‘nother can of worms. Don’t want to go through that again and worry about corrosive ammo.

I can get a carry permit in Mass. I have a friend that has one, and he's nothing special and had no special reason. I would get one except for the expense, I'd rather just drive through. Hawaii may indeed be the last state to change. Because NJ will never change in that respect. Get your a** over to PA, or just leave the area entirely. You'll thank me later. Think you are pissed now? Wait until you are free. You'll be 5x as pissed at NJ within a year of leaving. I didn't think it was possible, but freedom has strange effects. Which is why it is illegal.

I certainly wish I had one. But I'll never buy one at the prices they want. Just a curiosity to me. Would like to shoot one.

This weekend. Some of you guys swear by this show. I've been there many times and will be there again. Not sure about this weekend, though.

You spend around $90 on ammo and expect a deal? It costs me roughly $300 for every case of ammo I buy. And you got more rounds for your ~ $90. I posted a link. Go to UziTalk and ask. If I could get 5.56 cheaper at 5K rounds, I would buy it that way. You will find like minded people there at UziTalk. If you have less than $100 to spend on ammo then I'm not sure why you'd bother to complain. How much do you spend on .223 at that price? Must be horrible. I don't shoot Tok. If you want cheap ammo, go check. And bring your checkbook. Maybe it is 8 cents. That might change my decision to buy a barrel for my MAX-11.

4 to 6 rounds? You're going to work on it? That would certainly be a deal killer to me. With that limit on mag capacity, you must be shooting for accuracy. Which would call the choice of ammo into question. Then again, I always respect anybody up for a good gun project!!! Just not much of a tinkerer myself. Except when it comes to full auto. I always consider the pros and cons for full auto guns since they cost so much to shoot and buying a different one in a different caliber is too expensive!

We're up to 11 cents? Now we are talking about paying $471 for a case of 5.56 versus paying $300 But it is good to see people evaluating cost of shooting when deciding whether or not it's worthwhile.

Good. Enjoy it! I hope to as well. Maybe I'll sell you some ammo

True. Unless you are a cop, of course. Since they have the obligation of enforcing the laws, they are given a little leeway on breaking laws they might not be expected to understand on a day to day basis.

I'm actually friends with more than one conservative, constitutionalist, extreme 2A supporters that were extremely pissed off that the 2A was recently incorporated against the States. I dissagree with them, since I think that the People at the expense of the States is a good thing when it comes to honoring the Bill of Rights. Just pointing out that some people don't agree.

As stated, I don't have a Tok barrel for any firearm. I think if you check the link I posted you will find something. Or sign up, ask those guys, and you certainly will. MY point was simply to say, don't expect this stuff to be around forever. That has never happened before, but I assume there is always room for an exception. And I pointed out it is cheaper than you said. My response to you was price certainly makes a massive difference. Just because it's cheaper than what I shoot, doesn't mean it's worth it to switch. For instance, I don't shoot steel cased ammo. That is cheaper than what I shoot, and would be an easy switch. In my case, changing calibers is not a simple matter, and not without potential negatives.

"A gun is no laughing matter, and just because most of you handle it responsibly does not mean that everybody does." And then, the guy might have been crazy because he does not have an NJ permit? I'm trying to figure out if you are talking about a cop's need to cover his a**, or if you think people should be vetted by NJ to carry a gun in NJ, or some combination thereof. I believe you meant the latter.

Well, it would be the difference between spending $300 on a case of 5.56 or $428.57 on a case of 5.56. In other words, the difference is hundreds to thousands of dollars a year. A difference I take into account when considering spending money on aftermarket caliber conversions.

10 cents a round is a little high, 7 cents is available. There is a guy selling Tok barrels for M11/9 and MAX-11 on Uzitalk. I'm thinking of getting one. If it gets popular, we will rip through a lot of ammo. Not sure if it's legal to have images of real guns on your computer in NJ, but here is the genesis of the latest craze: http://www.uzitalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56015 People are also shooting this stuff in M16s, which I do not plan to do. I know there is so much Tok out there that it will last forever. Well, LOL. We've heard that before. Several thousand rounds will only cost a couple hundred, stock up now if you plan on doing this. I don't sell ammo or have any interest with any dealer or seller. Just sayin', many of us have been around for a while and seen surplus that aint made anymore (for military) come and go over time.

Not only that, but you have a shot in parts of CA and NY as a resident. In NJ you have no shot. NJ is the worst after Illinois.

Are you a girl or are you testically challenged? It’s 7:52, do you know where your nuts are?

Israel has a great military and great equipment but they have been in political disarray for a long time. The last invasion of Lebanon was a failure. Israel is very small, and surrounded by enemies on all sides. Moreso lately. One strategic mistake, and they are finished. Perhaps with an outgoing nuclear retaliatory response. Israel has won most of their wars by striking first. That is necessary for them to survive, and those days might be over politically. At least one they won by superior determination and luck. If Israel faces a true, fully committed, all-out combined attack, at all costs, it will be decided in days. Not weeks. Perhaps hours.

That's the great thing about Kel Tech. There are a lot of people with experience to offer about handling returns with them