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Yeah, I now it's your first gun, which is why I'm really urging you to resist the temptation to treat it like some type of heirloom or prized possession. An M&P is a fantastic tool, it will serve you well for years and MAYBE at some point you'll just wear it out. You'll replace it like a pair of socks. All you need to do is to clean and lube it occasionally, and replace the springs and other consumables at specified intervals instead of waiting for them to malfunction. Other than that, don't worry about the thing and just keep training. And if you get some money to sink into more stuff, get another IDENTICAL M&P so you can keep one in ready condition at home while beating up the other for consistent training. If ever you get to the point where you DO want a "prized" gun, It's probably not going to be an M&P. It'll probably be a gun made of all metal.

You probably mean Cerakote or similar finish appropriate to a firearm. I'm not sure if there are any local places, most people tend to ship to a reputable vendor. But let me be the first to say, seriously, on an M&P? If it's that important to you then go for it but I really think that after a few months you'll realize it was not money well spent.

The point is, "dum dum" became a generic term for hollowpoints in general, sort of like "Xerox" became a generic term for a photocopy. I think both terms went out in the 1970's, except for here in backward NJ.

I ordered direct from esseyepro.com, the discount code I used was DC2002TX but I don't know if it's still good. If not, you might find another one somewhere on the web. The discount did not apply to the Rx insert. Without a coupon code opticsplanet.com tends to have good prices.

I found the ESS Ice to be the value in shooting glasses, especially if you need prescription. They are Z87.1-2003+ and MIL-PRF-31013 rated. A single frame / lens combo is under $30. I got the set of two complete frames and lenses (not just interchangeable lenses) with hard case and other stuff for $60 after using a 20% coupon. I also ordered the Rx inserts directly from their website for another $99. They are not as optically perfect as the set of Rx Oakleys I use for motorcycling, but for $150 total they are excellent. A replacement lens is under $20 so I don't get upset when it gets scratched. And I was VERY glad to be wearing them the one time my friend's 1911 with his crappy reload kaboomed in my face. The question comes up of how much protection is good enough when it comes to safety equipment in many sports. It just takes ONE incident for you to be glad you used the best available rather than compromising for cost or comfort.

I hear you, and it's frustrating. There are some people who are professionally, psychologically or emotionally invested in hating guns just like there are people with irrational prejudice everywhere. When dealing with someone like that, changing their mind is simply not possible nor should it even be the goal. But what about the people who are not part of the conversation but happen to be listening? You might have an ability to influence their opinions even in just a small way, simply by behaving like a credible, calm and rational person. That image, in contrast to the crazed gunman image they might think of as a "gun person" goes a long way. And think of the contrast vs. the "anti" guy they thought they agreed with, but now are not sure becuase of the childish statements he makes. I'm not always able to keep my cool every time, but I do my best. I'm sure you already hold this opinion, and I just like to take the opportunity to remind everyone now and then that this is a much better approach than getting into a lowbrow pissing match.

Here is my take on that theory: 1 case Fedaral 45ACP shipped from ammmotogo.com: $415 or... 1 case PMC 9mm shipped from ammotogo.com: $260 + 1 full day class from MDTS: $185 = Total cost: $445 I know which of those two scenarios leaves you a more effective shooter.

The S&W factory NJ 15 round magazines are in stock right now at G&R Tactical. Availability comes and goes as S&W makes them in batches, so you might want to get some now. If you own a S&W then G&R Tactical will become a good friend. http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=39498

Most of the anti gun people I know have that belief under a sincere concern for public safety. This is based on misunderstanding and lack of information. Remember, most people here in the northeast have zero experience with firearms and all they know comes from movies, video games and news reports. But since most are reasonable people at heart, there is opportunity to change their minds through facts, logical RESPECTFUL discussion and just plain setting a good example as a gun owner to replace the image they already have in their minds. This is why I don't like the confrontational attitude from many in our community, calling anti's "sheeple," "fascists," or worse. If you're having a discussion with an "anti," it won't always go your way but please don't give up and let your frustration get the better of you.

Mark, thanks for posting that but I think you accidentally cut off one section: So, I think that really clears up any confusion over the issue.

think the Troll comment is directed at FearThis. He's just too cliche to be real.

I am now starting to doubt FearThis is for real. I think we've just been part of a pretty good joke. Nice run there for a while. Come on now. He just registered a week ago, screen name "FearThis," his posts get increasingly silly and erratic trying to keep the pot stirred and now ... an IROC?" This guy is either someone from CeaseFireNJ trying to get a rise out of us or more likely, a 16 year old kid having some fun.

If someone reports a store was robbed by a man in green pants and red shirt, then police can stop a man in green pants and red shirt. Someone committed a crime and there is specific reason to believe this might be the individual. If someone reports a black man walking around a nice neighborhood, then NO they can't stop him. No crime was committed, the guy is doing nothing wrong, and you can't stop a man just because you think a black man must be up to no good. Similarly, if someone is engaging in a 100% legal activity, then there is BY DEFINITION nothing wrong, and no valid reason to stop him. Sure the police officer's job will be much easier with the ability to stop and investigate anyone at any time - in fact our society would be much safer that way. China and Iran find great success with this strategy. Thankfully we still do have something called a Bill of Rights that prevents that type of thing here.

Of course he did. Everyone knows he did. The police do that all the time. So what? If they don't like getting busted, then they can stop breaking the law. Just like the other criminals that they bust.

The background check takes a couple of days. Making you wait in order to respect their authority takes anything up to several months.

So now the police are shocked - SHOCKED I SAY - that someone would be prepared with a recorder to catch someone committing illegal activity in order to bust them? Come on now. The guy might be obnoxious but he was engaging in 100% legal activity. If they don't want to get caught on tape violating the law, then they should stop violating the law rather than blaming the real victim for "asking for it."

I clean the home defense gun each time I use it, but the others get cleaned maybe after 1k rounds. Maybe. I'll lube it with grease once during that cycle, maybe around 700.

Bob, remember that the real goal of the current regulation is specifically to NOT process the applications efficiently. The goal is to prevent as many legal firearm purchases as possible by making it inconvenient and time consuming so people will just not bother. The beauty part is if people complain, they get to pretend it's just unfortunate bureaucratic backlog and manpower issues. Oh and we are just slow civil servants after all. Imagine using that excuse regarding permits for you to read a book ...

Meh, this guy has nothing on the time I had to defend a bunch of orphaned strippers from Martians with a .22. It all started with beautiful ladies admiring my muscles and flowing hair ...

I really, really want this story to be true. But to be honest there's a bit too much "I'm so awesome" in there for me to really believe it.

I've only ordered pistol ammo, but I have found ammotogo.com to always have excellent prices on cases of 1k rounds, plus excellent and efficient service. dansammo.com has less selection but they also have great prices and service.

G&R Tactical just got the 15 round magazines back in stock yesterday. They can include them with a new pistol without having to deal with a 10 round or modified 17 round. If a local dealer is unable to get you the pistol with the NJ magazines, you might want to give G&R a call asap before they run out again. Don't worry if a particular pistol is listed out of stock on the website, they can usually get any S&W very quickly. https://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=39498

The 1994 AWB grandfathered existing weapons and parts, hence the market during that time for "pre-ban" magazines, rifle lowers, etc. In the event of a new AWB, who knows what the specific provisions would be.

A goddamned secret rule book? So we're on double secret probation now? fugg you New Jersey! I just mailed a $100 check to the NJ2AS.

That gun, and the photo, are very full of awesome. Now I'm thinking about getting myself a bigass revolver ...