Displaced Texan

There is already enough bullshit in Trenton.

With a projectile…

The way I read it, states can ban EITHER open carry, or concealed carry, but not both. “ Statutory Prohibitions. In the early to mid-19th century, some States began enacting laws that proscribed the con- cealed carry of pistols and other small weapons. As we rec- ognized in Heller, “the majority of the 19th-century courts to consider the question held that [these] prohibitions on carrying concealed weapons were lawful under the Second Amendment or state analogues.” 554 U. S., at 626. Re- spondents unsurprisingly cite these statutes16—and deci- sions upholding them17—as evidence that States were his- torically free to ban public carry. In fact, however, the history reveals a consensus that States could not ban public carry altogether. Respondents’cited opinions agreed that concealed-carry prohibitions were constitutional only if they did not similarly prohibit open carry. ” Rest assured, NJ/NY will go down kicking and screaming, and try to make it difficult as they can get away with.. But they will have to allow public carry, one way or another.

Thomas stated that a permitting system is ok…as long as it is not unreasonably restrictive. I believe it implies background checks and training requirements are acceptable.

The decision has also laid the smack down to (banning)‘weapons in common use’. The way I read this, I think it might have positive effects for you guys on mag restrictions and other things. As others have said…give this a little time to sink in before going crazy. Thomas was pretty thorough…and pretty direct, on his beat down of anti 2A laws. I have just started reading Alito’s concurrence.

I agree, and HE is spot on. It WILL take awhile for the dust to settle and guidance to the PD to be formed. My read of the Bruen decision (I’m on pg 65/135 currently) pretty much lays a smack down to even mag restrictions, and weapons ‘in common use’…but it’s going to take time for all that to sort out. Especially the CCW. I know that you guys don’t want to hear this, but take a long breath and pause..it WILL happen for you…but rushing to file for permits now will result in denial. That probably won’t help you down the road when proper LEO guidance IS issued. I’m with you guys (and perfectly understand your thirst for CCW, remember I lived there for 20 years), but I think it’s prudent to wait a bit before going balls deep.

I would encourage those of you who are rushing out to apply for your NJ CCW to read @High Exposure’s post here: He speaks wisely.

I’m still reading through the entire text of the ruling, but I’ve heard others who are further along than I comment that this was anticipated in the decision. And specifically called out that it was not constitutional. When I find that text I’ll copy/paste. Not that Gov. Bucky intends to comply anyways… Here is the text from Thomas: Consider, for example, Heller’s discussion of “longstand- ing” “laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings.” 554 U. S., at 626. Although the historical record yields rela- tively few 18th- and 19th-century “sensitive places” where weapons were altogether prohibited—e.g., legislative as- semblies, polling places, and courthouses—we are also aware of no disputes regarding the lawfulness of such pro- hibitions. See D. Kopel & J. Greenlee, The “Sensitive Places” Doctrine, 13 Charleston L. Rev. 205, 229–236, 244– 247 (2018); see also Brief for Independent Institute as Ami- cus Curiae 11–17. We therefore can assume it settled that these locations were “sensitive places” where arms carrying could be prohibited consistent with the Second Amend- ment. And courts can use analogies to those historical reg- ulations of “sensitive places” to determine that modern reg- ulations prohibiting the carry of firearms in new and analogous sensitive places are constitutionally permissible. Although we have no occasion to comprehensively define sensitive places” in this case, mve places,” and it is likewise true that law enforcement professionals are usually presumptively available in those locations. But expanding the category of “sensitive places” simply to all places of public congregation that are not isolated from law enforcement defines the cat- egory of “sensitive places” far too broadly. Respondents’ ar- gument would in effect exempt cities from the Second Amendment and would eviscerate the general right to pub- licly carry arms for self-defense that we discuss in detail below. See Part III–B, infra. Put simply, there is no his- torical basis for New York to effectively declare the island of Manhattan a “sensitive place” simply because it is crowded and protected generally by the New York City Po- lice Department. Bold is my emphasis.

I don’t think Gov. Bucky intends to comply with the SCOTUS ruling. So I imagine it will be a long row to hoe before any CCW permits in NJ get approved. Sorry to be a Debbie downer in the short run, but I do believe it will happen. Eventually.

Because the Constitution, and fuck you. That’s why.

Phil can eat a bag of horse shit. SCOTUS has spoken, and that’s the law of the land.

Probably not that, but it appears they will have to have reasonable requirements, as the other 43 ‘shall issue’ states do. I don’t imagine things will happen quickly. Bucky has to be flaming mad.

Woohoo! A well deserved victory for us! I bet ole Phil is pissed.

WTS: NEW Troy HK style micro folding BUIS set. I bought these 2 weeks ago and installed them on my rifle long enough to realize they are too short for my optic height. All of about 30 seconds. I’m a dumbass. Yes, you can use these on your AR-15. They are designed for same plane usage, such as on a rail. I was going to use them as BUIS on my AUG, but the optic mount I bought for my red dot is too high, and they won’t co-witness with my T2. I paid $190, I’ll take $150 shipped to your door. Prefer ApplePay, or Venmo, but will do PayPal. Blah Blah Blah, the usual verbiage about the first one to say ‘I’ll take it’, followed by a PM, wins the sale. You guys know the drill by now.

Having fun with porn bots.

I haven’t seen a BCM lower in the wild ANYWHERE in quite awhile. Complete or stripped. May be easier to place a ‘WTB’ ad on this forum, or others.

What a ridiculous and asinine law. If them Dems can move to another state and vote in their old one, I can sign a petition in my former state….

Last night I had a nip of the Japanese whisky I brought back.

They know. Keeping guns out of the hands of the criminals is NOT the goal. Making law abiding citizens INTO criminals…IS.

You should!! My client for next week cancelled, so I may go out again in the morning.

Sorry, OP…Every time I hear the word ‘plethora’, I think of El Guapo. I can’t help it. Carry on with the SPR build…I’ll stop derailing it!

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