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So what I am getting from all of this is to basically be direct and unapologetic. (Not that I feel that way about it, but being on their good side can only help). Definitely going for the 3 PPs - even if they do change the process soon (hopefully for the better), the price will probably go up also.

So I have the number of a detective in my PD who handles firearms stuff, and want to call him before going down just to (hopefully) ease my way into the whole thing. Anyone have any suggestions on how I should broach the subject and what I should say to him, either via phone or in person?

About whether LEO's should get paid time to keep in shape: The difference between a LEO and a boiler-crawler is that there is no requirement for the latter to be in shape to keep his job. Whatever shape he is in, as long as he can squeeze in where he needs to be, he can perform his tasks. Contrastingly, if a PD requires officers to be in shape as part of their job description, then the maintenance of their physical fitness is something that can reasonably be expected to be compensatory.

NP. I actually managed to get $200 for $100 at walmart from them.

Anyone with an American Express card check out Amex daily wish this Tuesday for Cabelas gift certificates $50 for $100 and $35 for $50.

It's legal as long as you don't lie on the reference form by giving positive refs for someone you don't actually know. But once you meet some of the people, I can't think of any reason you can't be references for each other. Always.

Well it's not in S. Jersey, but Advance Auto Body in Bayonne is a great shop. My family has been using them for ~20 years.

I too had a great time tonight. I was completely taken aback by the everyone's open and welcoming attitude. Hopefully someday soon I will have (my own guns and) the chance to give back to the group. Jonathan

I'm still coming, for those of you who really wanted other people to use their guns.

You don't need an in state driver's license to get a gun - just show any gov't ID plus proof of residency. (-That only helps with having more than one DL, not more than one residence.)

Damn... ...because it really was a theoretical question - I don't own anything in FL. (But I've got lots of friends and relatives who do.)

If, theoretically, one would have a residence in say, Florida, and would purchase handgun(s) in said state based on that (purely theoretical) residency, would that violate any NJ laws, assuming that (theoretically, of course) his primary residence is in NJ? Wouldn't that theoretically remove the need to get any NJ pistol permits, and even an FID, assuming he also theoretically buys ammo in FL? Just wondering about this crazy wild possibility that would never actually happen...

Go to a shoprite near Passaic or Teaneck or Elizabeth or Edison (whew) and go to the kosher aisle and buy whatever looks good. Also if he is staying over the weekend get him some candles to light on Friday night. I concur with what was said - that he is not orthodox, or would not be staying (i.e. eating) with you.

I would tell you to go to Wayne on Main Ave in Passaic (corner Ascension), but only because someone I trust completely told me he is decent. I have not had the chance (lucky me) to try him out yet.

Ya, that would sound great: "I'm calling from the PD in xxx to verify yyy's employment... Whats that? Oh, I can't tell you why..." Can you link to any of those threads?

Yes, but how can they decide which contacts in your personal life (including employer) will be included in the process? If they could, why not just force you to put in certain specific references (parent, clergy), or heck - why not just call all your neighbors?

Anyone know if the Clifton PD sends or notifies employer about applications? And in general, how are they with processing FID/HG purchase apps?

I think I will come too - sans an FID or any guns. Anyone coming have some stuff for me to shoot? (I will buy my own bullets). I am hoping to try out some handguns so I can make some decisions about what my first purchase will be. --Jonathan

Spend $3 at a lawn store, buy three or four 40lb bags of dirt (the ones that are packed tightly), and stand them up against each other against your concrete floor or wall. I think we can say with some confidence that no handgun round is going to pass through all that and still have enough force left to ricochet off the concrete.

I recently moved to NJ from NY, and was pleased to learn that my new state has at least one advantage in gun laws: the ability to purchase and transport handguns without needing a "real" permit (as in NY where you must go through the same process for a CCW as for a purchase/target license). So, now I need to get some experience with different handguns so I can decide where I want to start, and since Shore Shot is the closest place I can find to me (Clifton) that rents handguns, that is the logical place to start. Can someone tell me if it is a good place to go to try out various handguns? I am interested in revolvers and semi-autos. Or, does anyone know anything closer to me that will serve my purpose? Thanks!