chris327
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lets not let Christie not veto it. Did you call him today urging him to veto the bill? 609-292-6000
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ok good thats much better.
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i think its more so that he wont say either way. Hes not going to say dont worry ill veto them or no im going to sign it. if hes going to veto it, hes going to wait until the last minute to veto it with the 4th of July weekend nobody will remember by Monday. either way did you make your phone calls and emails to his office today? 609-292-6000
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yea i thought the same wont finish till what time?
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i don't think billboards are the greatest advertisement. we had one for work for about 2 years, right on a major highway that we are off of. It is a high traffic area and all, but you dont get that many people looking at it. You almost have to look for it to notice since most people dont read every billboard. I had customers who noticed it during the 2nd year it was up that passed it every day and said wow did you just put that up? i really dont see it being worth it for billboards unless you gain some news coverage about it.
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anybody know where people signed these petitions? i never knew nj2as had a petition going around.
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everyone call and email today?
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Try an fns9. Grip is good for me with small hands. Reliable. Only problem is the mags are expensive.
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Today I was at the bullet hole and someone was outside handing out papers with the.number for Christies office and saying to tell them you oppose s993. We need to do this on a large scale. Election time, and for upcoming bills. Go to all ranges and hang out giving out flyers talking to people.
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I know there was talk on the forum around a year ago about them. I thought it might be cool to get if i had a permit to burn since its cheap so i looked into it and got alot of bad reviews. mainly round after round jamming. I didn't really find much good on it so i never got it.
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I dont think you understand, we cannot give up one end of the battle to fight another. You have to do both. You can't say let's all focus on voting only because what happens when we don't win the elections and give up the legal fights? Then we lose, we wont have a leg to stand on and we'll be worse off than we are now. As I said I always vote I think it's important to vote and agree with you about winning there. But we cannot stop the legal fight because then we will lose. And as I stated several times I don't believe the number of caring gun owners willing to vote solely on that issue is anywhere near what you estimate. Plus you need to figure out how many that care already vote? Which is likely almost all of them and if that's the case we do not have the numbers. We need to get more people involved in the sport. And not just involved as in going to the range one time. Involved as we are. As emotional about it as all of us. Last year we had it handed to us with all the law that passed but luckily Christie vetoed. And the upcoming election I think what 1 senator got the boot and a few assemblyman? If the gun owners who "care" didn't vote then, then it's official that means they don't care.
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no as i stated i think your right and we need to win the polls also for change. but we cant give up the legislative fight. I was just pointing out i think the numbers are way less than your posting.I dont think there's nearly 1 million. And maybe half of that number is owners who bought 1 gun and it sits in a closet. So my opinion is just that the numbers are not as clear cut as you make it seem. But i agree about voting Ive voted since i was 18 every election.
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what about the gun owners who 1. dont care 2 have 1 gun and aren't into it that much. 3 are democrats and vote democrat always Lets face it not everyone that owns guns in nj is on this forum, not everyone thinks about whats my next gun going to be. Many of nj gun owners got fids and all bought 1 gun to keep in the closet in case and never shoot it, dont go to the range, and dont care enough to vote. While i do agree with the we need to do better and win the elections for change. We cant give up on the legislative fight.
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any updates on this is it happening? i haven't heard anything.
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im going to agree with newtonian here too, Its not all about shooting. Situational awareness, what to look for, may be able to talk them down without shooting, if they take a person hostage, there's many other things this "guard" will have to do. Either way you can get a retired leo and have him keep training, or get someone else and basically train them as a leo from the start. My solution is to have the school system hire a cop for each school. Have them teach D.A.R.E. and GREAT to each class. you can have them do much more than sit waiting as a guard. I had a cop full time in my middle school and high school growing up. In high school he actually taught a few other classes such as crime and courts or something similar. An active duty cop can be more than a 1 dimensional guard and serve many roles.
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Ive been calling and never had an unpleasant experience they are always very polite on the phone.
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Ryan i agree with the lack of support and people problem. I think a major problem with nj2as and their program was ok go out and apply. We need to get a program together where its a one stop deal. Come we help fill out paper work, do prints, training class, qualifications, notary all in one. No running to 100 different places to get it done. I think if we make it simple people will be willing to do it. And we will need some volunteers to help to keep costs minimal. I am awaiting response from anjrpc, and a local range. If you have any other contacts let me know.
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dave im going to contact a local range and see if i can get something going. Im willing to apply and think it would be nice and easy if we can get a one stop shop to help people apply. I should be able to qualify for justifiable need although i probably wont get it so it may help strengthen the case. I dont really care if i have to fill out i was denied because of lack of justifiable need and neither should anybody else. But as you said who is actually willing to we need some sort of list to gauge interest. i will keep you posted.
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