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Wow, by that point I'll have put down over $80 just to be allowed to buy a firearm. I only called to have the shotgun put on hold for me; I'm going this Saturday to buy it. Can a NICS be initiated over the phone in advance?

I wasn't aware there was a charge for the NICS. How much did you pay?

My excitement over putting a SuperNova on reserve at Cabela's just 15 minutes ago is gone now that I realize I'll most likely have this to look forward to... And being 2 hours away it's not like I can just leave and come back. I'm not exactly sure how the NICS works, but it must be possible that the more common names take longer to process due to the extra sifting that's necessary.

I received a call a couple days ago from the detective working on my app. He said it was approved and on itss way to the chief's office to be mailed. One of my references also told me that he received a call just prior and was asked some more questions about me. Looks like the wait is just about over!

It'll be a great knife. Only their name has changed, not the products. It's interesting that they switched to D2 instead of the usual 1095 steel for the folder version. The only thing missing (for me) is an assist mechanism. Once you get used to spring assist, it's hard to get away from. Other than that, this knife should have everything that makes the Izula so great. An excellent EDC knife indeed.

This is an interesting point, and I agree completely. When I initially started collecting knives, I always looked for the very best blade steels and tended to settle on expensive knives. In my experience with outdoor work and camping, though, it seems most knives, regardless of cost and advanced features, are capable of handling common tasks. Some might disagree with that statement, but from what I've seen, the best isn't usually necessary. My Flash II is made with AUS8 steel which is inferior to other steels, and despite a couple small chips, it's still in acceptable condition after 2 years.

Personally I think Nutnfancy is a moron. He spends more time rambling than providing information - and the information he does provide is nothing I couldn't learn from a few minutes of reading elsewhere. His obsession with "tacticool" is ridiculous. So, the second one. I agree that multitools are extremely useful and probably do beat knives in most true "everyday" situations, but restricting your options to blades, is there anything in particular you'd look for besides that blade style?

Hi guys, First off, if there is already a thread along the lines of this, I apologize and ask that this one be closed. In my brief search prior to posting this, though, I didn't find anything too similar. I've done a lot of research into New Jersey knife laws and at this point I know them almost word for word. But, like anyone else who has read them or at least knows a bit about how things like this work in New Jersey, I have some remaining concerns about what is acceptable to carry. Of course, "acceptable" is largely up to the discretion of law enforcement officers, so rather than ask that question or ask someone to clarify the laws for me, I'll simply ask what you carry on a daily basis and ask for your advice on the most sensible way to carry it. If you carry a knife and care to offer your input, please state the brand and model of the knives you carry and/or some basic specs including: Fixed blade or folder, blade length/type, overall length, opening/locking mechanism (assisted, butterfly, etc.), style of carry (pocket, leg holster, belt, etc.). Please also include what you mainly use your knives for and where, if you've used them in a self defense situation, and if you've encountered any trouble for carrying them. From all this I hope to get a better understanding of what to carry in what situations as well as what to avoid. At the very least, I hope this discussion will lead to some information being shared among people who might be curious about the same things or just looking around for a knife that has served others well. At the moment I do not carry knives, but I own a few for outdoor use. My main three include a SOG Flash II (assisted, half-serrated), Buck PBS Crosslock, and an ESEE Izula. The Flash and the Izula would probably be well suited for EDC, but I'm not sure how LE would look at an assisted folder. The Izula would also serve as an excellent neck knife, but certainly could not be passed off as a simple pocket knife because it is a fixed blade. All input is appreciated. Edit: I just realized a posted this in the wrong section. Please move this to Bucket 3. The word "general" was in both sections and I mistakenly clicked the wrong one. My apologies.

I gave my PD a call last week to ask how it was going. The clerk in the Records Bureau said it was being handled by the Detective Bureau, so I called them next. That clerk told me the police chief has a stack of papers on his desk waiting to be sorted through, but she said she would look for my application and put it on top. I suspect this was a lie, but I thanked her and ended the call. It was such a tease to go on a Cabela's trip today and not be able to buy anything, but I did get to handle the 10/22 I intend to purchase as my first firearm. Fortunately though, today's purchase earned me a $75 cash card which can be applied to my next purchase, so my rifle should be much cheaper. I held a lot of different guns. The highlight, though, was the FN Five-seveN. Can't wait to get my hands on that someday.

Well I called up my PD last week and spoke to the same woman who gave me an attitude in person months ago. I asked if there was any additional paperwork I might need to provide for my application. She said "Have you gotten a letter in the mail?" I said no, and she said "Well then it's not ready. We send them out when we get them." It's now been around 50 days since fingerprinting.

I waited about two weeks as well. I arrived an hour early for my appointment at the MorphoTrak location in Sparta... there was nobody around. The actual process took no more than 2 minutes. I don't see where the 2+ week wait comes from or how they justify the fee of $60.25. I also don't see why the task has to be outsourced to a private company.

Thank you for the replies. It has been 40 days since I had my fingerprinting done. The rest of my application was turned in at least two weeks prior to that. Both of my references returned their letters the day after receiving them. I will call my PD on Monday.

Thank you for your reply. It's a shame that this law is disregarded. Do you guys think it would help or hurt to give my PD a call to ask about the status of my application?

Can anyone point me toward the law which states the a police department must either grant or deny an application for a Firearms Purchaser ID Card within 30 days of the application being submitted? I was unable to find this law in my search. Thanks

Glennp, that steam engine is one of the coolest things I've seen in a while. I'd love to have something like that. How much does it weigh?

Aside from the obvious, what hobbies are you guys involved in? I'm an amateur tinkerer and I've been building all sorts of fun things for a long time. For the past few months I've been building 'Nerf Blasters'... just like the toys sold in stores, but with my own twist. Here is one I made a while ago that has since been dismantled: http://s919.photobucket.com/albums/ad31 ... IM0936.mp4 http://s919.photobucket.com/albums/ad31 ... t=rspe.mp4 http://s919.photobucket.com/albums/ad31 ... IM0939.mp4 (The above videos are dryfires... I tend to lose darts quickly. I will upload a video with actual darts soon.) The blaster (no, I do not refer to it as a gun) uses an air cylinder and a simple pneumatic circuit powered by compressed air to propel harmless foam darts as well as operate the mechanism which chambers preloaded tubes and ejects them from the blaster prior to firing the dart. The darts weigh about 1 gram and are made of 0.5" diameter low density foam cord. The input pressure is completely adjustable with a regulator system. Adjustment of input pressure translates to adjustment of muzzle velocity. The blaster's operation is semi-automatic and from testing it seems capable of cycling at any rate I can pull the trigger. Before building this I checked New Jersey laws to see if it was even legal. N.J.S.A. 2C:39-1(f) reads: "Firearm means any handgun, rifle, shotgun, machine gun, automatic or semi-automatic rifle, or any gun, device or instrument in the nature of a weapon from which may be fired or ejected any solid projectable ball, slug, pellet, missile or bullet, or any gas, vapor or other noxious thing, by means of a cartridge or shell or by the action of an explosive or the igniting of flammable or explosive substances. It shall also include, without limitation, any firearm which is in the nature of an air gun, spring gun or pistol or other weapon of similar nature in which the propelling force is as spring, elastic band, carbon dioxide, compressed or other gas or vapor, air or compressed air, or is ignited by compressed air, and ejecting a bullet or missile smaller than three-eighths of an inch in diameter, with sufficient force to injure a person." So, compressed air powered "weapons" are considered firearms unless they fire projectiles above "three-eights of an inch in diameter" and do so without "sufficient force to injure a person." My darts are .5" in diameter which well exceeds the sub .375" limitation. And, thanks to calculations done by a fellow engineering student, the Kinetic Energy Density (kinetic energy divided by impact area, or in mathematical terms: [0.5 * mass of projectile * velocity of projectile^2] / [pi * radius of projectile^2]) of an unmodified store bought Nerf dart fired from an unmodified store bought Nerf Blaster is approximately 0.015 J/mm^2. Given that my darts are of comparable mass and my blaster's muzzle velocity is adjustable, the Kinetic Energy Density of the darts it fires can be dialed to or even below that quantity. In plain terms, it's legal! It matches the specifications of fully legal, store bought Nerf Blasters in both areas. It's also quite a bit safer than paintball guns and even airsoft guns. To top everything off, the mechanism and the volume of air used to propel the foam darts is inadequate to fire anything but those darts. The whole system is extremely safe. Well I thought you guys might find that interesting, back to the original question - What are some of your hobbies?

Looks like Adrien Brody has an AA-12 in some scenes. I bet they threw that in there to please the MW2 kids. I'm in the mood for a good action movie so I might just see this...

Got my fingerprinting done today. The person from Morphotrak told me to bring the receipt back to my PD, which I did, but the man in the Records Dept. said they didn't need the receipt because Morphotrak sends them all the info automatically. I thought that was strange... He also said to expect to wait about two months. So far I'd say my town is playing by the rules except for that release of information waiver I signed.

ChrisJM981, your experience makes me realize how foolish it was of me to sign a similar waiver when I submitted my FID application two weeks ago. I don't feel there is really anything my PD could dig up about me that might disqualify me from receiving my FID Card, but I'm ashamed of myself for submitting to such an invasion of privacy. On the subject of that, does anyone know what a police department is capable of in terms of gathering information? Can they track internet records and activity? I would certainly hope not. Short of the "disabilities" listed in the reply you received, are there any other reasons someone may be denied an FID?

Thanks for all the replies. I've decided I'll most likely buy a cheap and/or used .22 rifle (no SR-22) and I will consider the offers I've received here. After that I'll go for a shotgun, probably a Remington 870 or even 870p since the quality is said to be superior. And after that I'll start gathering parts for an AR. I will take a shooting class, in fact that's one of the things I started looking into before I even submitted my application.

Yes, no handguns for a few more years. (I'm 18.) I plan to hunt with the rifle and/or shotgun.

I have about $1600 saved up that I've been referring to as the "gun fund" ever since I applied for my FID last week. When I get my card, I intend to blow every last cent of it. So, I've come here for advice on how to spend it. My initial plan was to buy a Ruger SR-22 to familiarize myself with firearms as well as the AR platform (I know, there are "better" choices in .22LR, namely the M&P15-22 if I want to get the feel of an AR... but SR-22 it is.) and have a rifle that's affordable to shoot since there's nothing cheaper than .22LR. That route would leave me with roughly $1100 to spend on other things. I intended to get a cheap shotgun followed by a cheap bolt action using the remainder. Of course, I could always go for one very good shotgun or one very good bolt action. The second plan I've been considering is going straight for an AR with all of the savings, either a ready to go setup (considering the M&P15 and SR-556 in particular) or I'll build up my own using parts I prefer. The problem with building up my own is that since I'm completely new to this, I don't know what I do and don't like yet. So I've come to you. You guys know more about this than I ever will and I trust your guidance. What is a wise path for a first time buyer? Lastly, is it legal to buy rifle ammo and passive rifle components online without an FID? (magazines, stocks, barrels, rails, and other non-moving parts...) Thanks again everyone.

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templ ... hasJS=true Anyone know if these are legal in NJ?

Handed in all the forms today, everything went well. Now I just have to schedule an appointment with MorphoTrak.

I called my local police department today to ask for their hours. They said that the Records Bureau handles Firearms I.D. Card applications and are open weekdays until 4:30 PM. They said to come by and pick up information for my application. I went to the Records Bureau and asked for the information, they asked for my age, then handed me three papers. The first paper basically outlines the procedure for submitting an application for a Firearms I.D. Card. The second paper is a release of information waiver which grants permission to Law Enforcement to conduct a background check. The third paper is an applicant information form for MorphoTrak (no longer Sagem Morpho). The fee for fingerprinting will be $60.25. The procedure, as outlined in the first paper, is as follows (condensed): -Obtain Application for Firearms Purchaser Identification Card and Consent For Mental Health Records Search. -Complete all questions on the Application Form. -Bring two stamped and addressed #10 envelopes for each reference. References must be local and not related to the applicant. -Complete Waiver of Information Form - to be signed at the time application is submitted. -Complete Mental Health Form - to be signed in the presence of a detective at time application is submitted. -Complete items 9 through 26 on the MorphoTrak forms (name, address, occupation, etc.) -Bring $5 I.D. Card fee - payable by cash, check, or money order. -At the time application is submitted, further information regarding fingerprinting will be given. So far everything has gone well. I've spoken with my two references who both have their FID cards and have been given their permission to use them as contacts. I'll submit everything tomorrow and keep you posted on how it goes. Hopefully my experience with this can help other newcomers as you have helped me. Thanks again. Edit: On a related note, I just joined the NRA!