MidwestPX

Considering the millions of post sample machine guns in SOT hands plus all the transferable ones in private citizen's hands are silent every day and not used in crimes, the machine gun itself is not the cause of the problem. Handing one to someone who has only ever owned semi-auto guns does not instantly make them a killer. It's not like playing Tag at recess..."Tag, you have the machine gun, now you have to go kill kids!" Nope, not like that. Personally, I think they should be as unregulated as semi-autos should be. But then again, I don't see the phrase, "shall not be infringed" as very confusing either.

In general, new capital is not being put in place because the payback period is so uncertain. Imagine if you put $3M into a machining cell to meet a spike in demand then the government shuts you down six months later before it's even paid for itself.

My stock of these lowers is getting decimated and they aren't even here yet! Down to about 1/3 of the incoming shipment still available.

I don't buy it. What matters is terminal ballistics which, for handguns, is the size of the permanent wound channel. Handgun rounds don't achieve high enough of a velocity to create a temporary wound channel or generate hydrostatic shock so when it comes to effectiveness, it's all about how big of a hole the bullet is punching. Modern bullet design has 9mm hollow points expanding to nearly the size of those of a .45 JHP. What you gain with 9mm is capacity and cost over .45 I shoot both calibers and own multiple handguns but I carry a 9mm because I can afford to practice with it more often, I can carry more rounds and if I have to use it, I'm not really losing anything as far as terminal ballistics are concerned relative to other calibers.

Yep, same fee.

Buy a barrel that hasn't had a gas port drilled?

I have several hundred NFA lowers coming in and am excited to release them for sale! I have two versions coming, one is completely stripped and available here: http://midwestpx.com/product_info.php?products_id=601 The other version comes with a polymer LPK, mostly installed! This is a great option right now since LPKs seem to be somewhat in short supply these days. They are available here: http://midwestpx.com/product_info.php?products_id=602 Please note that these are pre-orders and due to software limitations, all orders are charged when they are placed, not when your order is shipped. Orders for these lowers will start shipping out the week of Jan. 14.

The panic followed the same path as 2008/2009. ARs, lowers, mags, ammo, then components. The shortages have started to hit brass and primers now.

Thousands upon thousands of mags are on order with multiple sources right now. When I will receive them is the million dollar question. Once I have more available for retail sales, I will update inventory in the store as well as post in this sub-forum.

They're gone.

Found four (4) 15/30 windowed OD PMAGs, no ranger plates. $92 + shipping First to order here gets them:*poof* gone

My understanding is, the molder has to have an 07 FFL to produce the lowers for NFA on a variance. The molder in this case owns the tooling.

The molder is charging NFA more because the molder is concerned that there isn't as much time to pay off the tooling due to the political climate. It's smart business on the molder's part. Therefore, NFA is charging more, both dealers and retail. I've got several hundred NFA lowers coming in about two weeks.

While I can understand why you guys are upset about price increases, think about it from the retailer's standpoint. They don't know when they're going to get more product to sell. I've made that very clear to ALL dealers that I have no idea when I can get them more of my product to sell. So for all they know, what they have right now has to pay the bills for the next month. It's a very real possibility in the current environment. This goes for guns too. An added complication with the guns is some distributors as well as manufacturers have started to raise prices on the dealers which we in turn pass on to end customers. Side note: I have not raised prices to dealers for the mags I make. One distributor that I work with started charging $3200 for a SCAR16 and $3400 for a SCAR17. And in an effort to keep inventory turning and making money to keep employees paid and the lights on, dealers are buying those overpriced guns and in turn selling them for whatever profit they can squeeze out because regular replenishment is not possible for the immediate future. Panic buying is driving this drought. People stockpiling hundreds of magazines and tens of thousands of rounds of ammo. One person snatching up 10, 12, 20 AR15s because he's afraid of a ban limiting his ability to own them in the future. And the worst offender: the speculator. The person buying low and selling high or buying now and waiting for a ban to flip whatever he/she has snatched up in an effort to make a handsome profit. Because of the insane spike in demand, the entire firearms supply chain was drained in under a week. A WEEK. Buyers created this situation and sellers have responded in what I consider to be sensible fashion. We don't know when we'll get more to sell so raise prices and make every last sale count as though the profit has to sustain us for weeks or months. No inventory means no cash flow but overhead persists and eats away at whatever cash has been stockpiled. Retailers who cannot control their overhead or keep their operations lean hurt in the long run during these situations. Sure, they make a ton of money at the beginning but as I mentioned, without replenishment of inventory, that money will dwindle away and ultimately kill the business if not managed or mitigated.

Not enough demand to make building the necessary fixtures cost effective.

Due to the fact that the polymer can flex, a production block sized to always fit against a closed bolt sometimes results in a mag that can fit 16 rounds if enough force is applied. The mag won't feed or function with 16 rounds but laws aren't written around functionality...they're written around absolute capacity. I build my blocks on the long side of the tolerance to keep everyone safe.

I forgot that I offer a conversion service. If you guys have unmodified mags or find someone selling them and have them shipped to me, I can convert them for you. Just order one of this for every mag you want converted: http://midwestpx.com...products_id=365 In your order comments, mention you want 15rd mags and not 10rd mags and I'll make it happen. At this time, I am currently out of FDE and OD Ranger Plates.

I forgot that I offer a conversion service. If you guys have unmodified mags or find someone selling them and have them shipped to me, I can convert them for you. Just order one of this for every mag you want converted: http://midwestpx.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_80&products_id=365 In your order comments, mention you want 15rd mags and not 10rd mags and I'll make it happen. At this time, I am currently out of Ranger Plates so please do not select that option

Well, not quite "just" for show. They do keep the baseplate on but they're very easy to mill/drill out. This is why I stay away from rivets too.

Not without damaging or destroying the magazine. The roll pin is just a visual indicator and not permanent "enough" in my opinion so there is a secondary method of keeping those baseplates on. I have yet to find a way to remove the baseplates on the long term test units I have here without having to cut, grind, torch, or shatter parts of the magazine. The advice I give to people who are moving to a "free" state is, sell the mags using a local forum. Because the market isn't flooded with limited capacity mags, you can usually get most of your money back. I've heard from more than one customer who moved from NJ to a "free" state and actually got more for their mags than they paid me for them because someone saw them at the range and offered $25-$35ea for them.

Getting them to 15 rounds is relatively easy however keeping mag function and reliability the same is a little more intricate. The most difficult part is permanently modifying the mag though.

I wish I had one. No one is giving ETAs for anything right now. The industry is in utter chaos as far as supply goes.

GONE I was doing some inventory counts and found these in the wrong section. They were made for someone who subsequently canceled the order and I must have just tossed them on the shelf and forgot about them. 15/30 OD Green (non-window) w/ Ranger Plates Being sold as a lot of six for $24.50ea Call me at 815.246.2715 if you want them.

I've been asking myself this very same question for a week. I have thousands of mags on order which are all spoken for by NJ-based dealers. I'm trying to get them to you guys either direct through my webstore or through my dealer network. Hang in there!

Feb. at the earliest. Magpul is only producing black at this time.