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So I took my new-to-me converted Saiga 223 to Range 14 today. It was my first time shooting it. I have 3 surefire 15 round mags and I shot about 100 rounds today. Once every magazine, I would pull the trigger and the rifle would shoot 2 rounds bambam. Seriously caught me by surprise the first time or 2. I though maybe the RO would come over to see that I did not have an auto rifle, but he never did. I assume this is a bump fire caused by user error? To avoid this should I squeeze the trigger and keep it squeezed back until after the recoil? Or are converted Saigas and AK types prone to this? I have never shot a 223 before. It had more kick than I expected. And the sights are waaaaaaaaay off, like 6 inches off at 50 yards. Thanks for reading. David

I shot there for my first time today. I had the 200 yard range all to myself. Nice thing about having the range all to me was the RO let me go downrange whenever I wanted to check targets. Very friendly people. Next time I go I will bring my own targets, extra paper and a staple gun. I only bought 2 targets and put them both at 50 yards for sighting purposes. Got kinda boring, so I will set up targets at various distances once I figure out my rifles. The post hole diggers where not that bad to use. I also need a scope or binoculars to check the targets. Can you shoot non-paper targets, like plastic bottles and cans? It was cold and wet, but fun to be outside. And the sound of 50 caliber automatic fire from Dix was cool background noise.

I just called and spoke with James. Range 14 is open for biz on Fridays.

Is today teh magic day, when Range 14 at Dix opens up on Fridays? Thursday and Friday are my range days, and I have been itching to shoot outdoors. Rain or not, I will be going at 1.

Fastd, The kid loved the Marlin 60 and I am sure he would love my 10/22. The problem is the length of pull. I guess I could chop down a cheapo 10/22 stock for him. Also, Kid B is a 4 year-old that I would like to start shooting earlier than Kid A did. I am guessing that that around 7 I will take him out for the first time. Even a chopped 10/22 might be too big. $200 for a kids rifle is not too much. Maybe a trip to Cabellas is in order. I would assume they have a selection of kid rifles to try on for size.

Update. I show my son the online pics of the Savage Mark II GLY, expecting him to fall in love with it. I say, "Left handed bolt, 10 shots in a magazine, more gun to grow into, blahblahblah," He says he wants the Henry. And he does not want a lever gun. Single shot bolt action only. So, Henry it is. Of course, I am sure he would not turn down the Savage if it showed up one day. I wish I could find one to fondle. Thanks for the opinions.

I took my 9-year-old son to the range yesterday. It was his first indoor shooting experience and he did great. I had warned him about the noise and he got used to it quickly. It was to be handguns only, but we also borrowed the Shore Shot rental Henry kids bolt action rifle to see how it fit him. They did not even charge us the rental fee. He did great with it and now I am thinking of his first rifle. I like the idea of a bolt action rifle for his first gun. He tried my Marlin 60 a few months ago and he got a bit trigger happy with it. And it was waaaay too big for him. I liked the Henry alot, I just think that he may outgrow it too fast. Also, he is left-handed. I see that Savage makes a left-handed, bolt action youth rifle called the Mark II GLY. The specs say it is a bit heavier and longer. It holds 10 rounds in a detachable mag. A longshot, I know, but does anyone have one of these? Thoughts? Opinions? btw, he tried out handguns for the first time and loved 'em. The S&W 34-1 was just bought last week and did not function properly after a bit. I hope it was because it was dirty. The S&W 22a ran flawlessly and he was very good with it as well. He is not strong enough to work the slide yet. He is already asking to shoot the Beretta 92. Maybe in another few months. Thanks.

If I can get outta work early enough, I may get there. If I make it, it will be a cheap night for me with just the S&W 22a.

I see that the kit includes a walnut stain. Can I skip the stain to keep the gray color? I have a stainless 60 and think the gray and black of the laminate would look great.

Ordered mine in Pepper Laminate. Any secrets to a fantastic finish? My wife is gonna kill me with the shooting bill from the past month.

kenw>>> Actually, the bad guys will have 17 round glocks or Uzi's. We will have flintlock pistols.

That answers one of my questions. As a new gun owner, I have no memory of the first ban, so I was wondering if I would have to surrender the 15 rounders that I already legally own.

Thanks for the info guys. I will head west into America for try-n-buy. Know of any shops in the levittown pa area?

I bought superbees Saiga 223 last week. Have yet to shoot it, but the Saiga factory stock feels really to long for me. I want to try out a standard AK stock, black plastic, in either Warsaw or Nato length. Does anyone know if a local vendor has any in stock to try-n-buy? Thanks.

Hey Stan, Yeah, there is a bit of recess, but it is not too bad. Even with the stock plastic grips, my mags wanted a little fingertip push to seat properly, so this is not that different. If it really bugs me, I could get my brother the woodworker to sand down the bottom of the grip a bit to sit flush with the mag. I try to go to Shore Shot about once a week, usually Thursday during the day. I am also trying to get out to Ft. Dix soon, probably on a Sat or Sun. If you wanted to meet up, you could try out my 22a (and my other things) to see how it shoots for you. Good luck on the paperwork. D.

I bought my 22a in 7" from Tony at TJs for $255 + tax and NICS in November. Buds shows the gun for $238. I thought that was a very fair price and I was happy to support a FFL in my own town. I like to shop local, and I especially like to shop in my home town. I have seen some 22a's in other shops that had prices on them that were outrageous. Put out a vendor price request here. Betcha Tony beats 'em all. I like the 22a very much. Not too picky on ammo. CCI Blazer, Federal bulk, minimags, American Eagle all worked well for me. Remington was the only one it hated. I think the field strip is very easy. I replaced the stock grips this week with Walnut Altamonts(see my post in rimfire section for pics). FYI, Shore Shot has a 22a on the rental board. Good luck.

20 it is then. Thanks.

I would like to get a shotgun to try my hand at informal clay shooting at Stafford forge with my 9-year-old son. Would a 410 like the Mossberg 510 Super Bantam be worth considering for clays? On a slghtly unrelated note, can the fancy defensive 410 ammo for the Judge series of pistols be used out of a shotgun? Not that home defense is really needed, just a question. Thanks for your thoughts.

I think I saw one of these in the racks at Cheyenne in Hamilton.

Wolfy... While waiting for my FID and p2ps, I rented and tried out alot of .22s. I almost did not try out the 5 1/2" 22a at Shore Shot cuz I thought it was kinda fugly. But I was more accurate with it than anything else. Rented it again a few weeks later and same thing. I opted to buy the 7" and love the gun more and more every time I shoot it. Great gun for a low price. I am sure that I will own a Ruger and/or a Browning at some point, but this is a great first pistol. JonF.... Yup, mag release. Very easy to hit with your middle finger. Some complain that they accidentally dump the mag whilst shooting, but I like the setup alot more than a thumb button. And the mags pop out with great enthusiasm! I shot about 200 rounds out of it today and the grips felt great. My only complaint is that the S&W screws are not long enough and the grip worked itself loose a few times. I made a trip to the hardware store for longer stainless hex head screws and lock washers. Should be an easy fix. Will post another pic with ss screws later. I am becoming a big fan of walnut grips on black guns. I may need to get a set of walnut grips for my Beretta 92fs.

For you 22a folks out there wanting aftermarket grips... I finally got around to ordering fancy grips for my Smith & Wesson 22a from Altamont ([email protected] or call Doug @ 800-626-5774). I was gonna go with the coco grips for $61, but Doug said they had several types available, including these walnut. They were about the same price as the S&W wood laminate grips ($71 plus 9 for shipping). A little pricey, but they are real pretty and a far cry above the stock plastic grips. Range trip today with the 22a and my other new toy (CX4 in 9mm). It has been an expensive month. Need. to. stop. buying. stuff.

Well, I looked on gunbroker and there is a beat to hell Marlin 39a up for auction that looks to be in similar condition. It has less pitting, but more rust. It is here http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=213252972 I guess we will see what the auction ends at. I think that would give a reasonable guess as to my gun's value. I will try to post pics of mine within a few days in a proper WTS posting. Also, my 39a looks to be a 1962 vintage, not 1940s.

Tim, You got it.

I have a beat to hell Marlin 39a, I think a late 40's vintage, that I have no interest in owning. I also have no idea what a beat up, but functional, 39a is worth. It was a truck gun for years and shows pitting and rust and dents and scratches. If you want, I can do some research on its worth?

Speaking of Neos...Has anyone tried out the Neos carbine conversion? I have yet to see/fondle one. I have no desire to own the Neos by itself, but the carbine kit seems like a neat little shooter.