Steve_G

I really doubt he will just let them pass. That would serve no purpose for him in NJ or nationally. It would make him look weak and indecisive, both parties would tare him apart with that, it's also completely against his character.

GOVERNOR CHRISTIE SIGNS 10 GUN BILLS! NO ACTION TAKEN YET ON SWEENEY FID BILL OR FIFTY CALIBER BAN! Please keep contacting the Governor's Office! This afternoon, Governor Christie announced that he signed 10 of the gun bills on his desk. Two of those bills are helpful to gun owners, six are neutral in their impact on gun rights as a result of amendments based on gun owner input, and two were opposed by gun owners. Three other horrific anti-gun bills - the worst of the bills that made it to the Governor's desk -have not yet been acted upon by Governor Christie: the Sweeney "centerpiece" FID bill, the fifty caliber ban, and the trace data bill that would require the State Police to violate federal law. It is critical that the Governor's office continue to hear from gun owners on the three bills that have not been acted on yet. Please do your part and keep urging the Governor to veto these bills. Please call the Governor's office ASAP at 609-292-6000, write him at P.O. Box 001, Trenton, N.J. 08625, or send an email using the online contact form. The 3 anti-gun bills on which the Governor has NOT yet acted are: S2723 - the awful Sweeney "omnibus" bill, which throws out existing FID cards and replaces them with either a privacy-invading driver license endorsement or other form of ID; suspends Second Amendment rights without proof of firearms training; ends private sales between background-checked licensed gun owners; effectively creates a registry of ammunition purchases and long gun sales; and imposes a 7-day waiting period for handgun purchases. A3659 - the fifty caliber gun ban, which in its final version bans firearms that shoot centerfire cartridges of any caliber that attain a muzzle energy of 12,000 ft-lbs. or greater. Though limited grandfathering has been added in response to gun owner concerns, the firearms must be registered, cannot be passed down to heirs, and owners will be civilly liable for damages if the firearm is used in a crime. Additionally, the bill has been amended specifically to prevent anyone with a pending order for these firearms from taking possession of them. A3797 - Mandates that the State Police publicly disclose confidential ATF gun trace data in violation of explicit federal law limiting that data to law enforcement use only. This is an attempt by frustrated gun banners to circumvent the federal Tiarht Amendment, so that idiosyncrasies of the ATF's trace system can be exploited and manipulated to falsely suggest that law abiding citizens are a source of "crime guns." ATF has opposed similar efforts to circumvent confidentiality, which could compromise ongoing investigations. Note: a conditional veto by the Governor removing just the offending parts of A3797 would be sufficient. The 2 bills that HELP gun owners which the Governor has signed are: A3788 - Prevents public disclosure of personal information of licensed firearms owners, including name, address, and phone number. The legislation prevents a repeat of what happened in New York State in January, when several newspapers obtained personal information of Empire State gun owners via freedom of information requests and then published that information both in print and on the internet. Publishing personal information of gun owners jeopardizes their safety and makes them targets for gun theft, in addition to raising significant privacy concerns. A3796 - Addresses an anomaly in New Jersey's "assault" firearms statute that prevents those still in possession of banned firearms from lawfully disposing of them. This bill reopens a compliance window for a short time during which banned firearms could be lawfully disposed of. Although the compliance window is too short, and the bill fails to allow for lawful disposition of banned magazines and ammunition, it nonetheless offers a limited compliance opportunity that is a temporary improvement over current law. The 2 bills opposed by gun owners which the Governor signed are: A3687 - Terror Watch List bill. Makes it possible to suspend Second Amendment rights without a specified requirement of due process, based on a secret government list compiled by federal bureaucrats with no published standards, no identified procedure to correct errors, and potential for enormous abuse by those in power. Proponents of the bill have argued that due process is available because there is a right to appeal any permit denial under New Jersey law. A3717 - Requires submission of certain mental health records to NICS without an explicit, stated requirement of due process within the legislation itself. ANJRPC has no objection to the core purpose of this legislation, but believes that the legislation needed to explicitly state that only records of persons who have had judicial due process (with a right of appeal) should be submitted to NICS. Proponents of the bill have argued that the NICS system itself, as well as New Jersey mental health law, contain independent due process requirements. The 6 bills signed by the Governor that have been neutralized in their impact on gun rights are: S1279 - Upgrades penalty for unlawful transfer of a firearm to a minor (specifically amended to exempt lawful instruction and training, competition and target shooting) S2720 - Makes records regarding the total number of FID cards and handgun permits issued subject to public disclosure (does not disclose identity of gun owners) S2804 - Upgrades penalty for unlawful firearms possession by felons or those engaged in serious criminal behavior. S2430 - Creates a study commission on gun violence. S2468 - Permits vehicle impoundment where felons or those engaged in serious criminal behavior are unlawfully in possession of firearms. S2719 - Anti-trafficking legislation (amended to prevent numerous unintended consequences to legal gun owners).

It would be fine if you didn't have that other AR. Since you do. it would be considered constructive possession. In reality, do what you need to do and just don't talk about it, especially online. Words to live by in NJ:

It's town by town. Mine just wants the $18 money order as long as I have been active in the last 2 years. They have to do one or the other, background check or prints. Best to call and see what they require or just show up with the $18 money order and play stupid.

No he doesn't do this one.

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They just showed this on channel 5 news. The driver and the security guard were both terminated.

Also, USPSA requires a little more equipment wise. 4 mags required, 5 preferred. Either of your guns would put you in production division shooting against similar guns not against the limited and open guys. OBRPC offers an indoor action match every 1st and 3rd Friday night, great way to get familiar with shooting in competitions. Or just go out to a steel match to start with and move up to USPSA or IDPA when you feel ready.

I'm no expert but, the way I read it is that it is 45 calendar days. If they are not in session on day 45, then day 45 is postponed until the first day they are in session again.

Article on NJ.com has a complete list: http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/07/latest_gun_bill_scorecard_track_new_jerseys_gun_control_legislation.html#incart_river_default

A quick check of the Lee website shows that the seating die in the 3 die set seats and crimps. They do recomend using their factory crimp die if you are using range pick up brass or are loading mixed head stamp brass. I was having some chambering issues using a Dillon crimp die in .45acp, turned out it was a bad insert in the die but while I was waiting for a replacement I picked up a Lee FCD and see no reason to put the Dillon die back in. Every round drops right in the case guage.

I believe my avatar clearly shows my preference. However, if you have your heart set on a doublle stack .45 try to shoot as many of them as you can. At the very least, make sure to handle each one you are considering. The G21 feels more like a brick than a brick, the FNH FNP/X is almost as large but at least for me was quite comfortable to hold and shoot.

Yes he did, you fukinecho.

1st and 3rd Sundays are static steel, 2nd Saturday is knockdown steel with the poppers, Texas star, etc. Easy to get them mixed up, always something going on @OBRPC.

Sunday looks good. Saturday for OBRAMS not looking too good though.

Yes, it is.

That's for subsequent background checks for additional p2p's, instead of finger prints, not initial FID.

??? Handgun purchase permits are $2 each.

BLASPHEMY!!!

Haven't been there in years but, they used to require you to take their half hour safety course ($) to shoot your own guns. Not sure if they still do.

That's easy. Colt 1911-22 and the Range Officer. I'll even pick up and dispose of that useless .45 brass for you.