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Don't forget, most agencies for 'night time' or 'low-vis' quals only put on sunglasses to simulate a reduced lighting situation. I can tell you that running a course in the dark using your weapon mounted light is much more difficult then putting on some shades on in a well lit facility or outside even on a cloudy day. And when do most shootings occur?... at night, not wearing sunglasses at very close range and in awkward firing positions under stress. Wonder why NYPD needs 91 shots to stop someone opening his front door or why 9 civilians were shot at the Empire State Building? Piss poor training, BS training programs, compromised stress fire drills and on and on and on.

I'm not overly concerned about the amount of ammo purchased if it was for the FBI, Air Marshals, DHS and the like. I know in the courses I took, you can easily blow thru 400 to 800 rounds a day. When YOU are paying for the ammo you tend to be more conservative with your money. When the ammo is agency issued, the trigger is pulled more often. And a case or two is known to wind up in someone's garage instead of dealing with bringing it back to the shop and having to log it in. These things I know about and have been the happy recipient of. The IRS, EPA and DOE and maybe even the Health and Human Services being armed and doing the work of actual LE agencies bothers the crap out of me.

I'm not too far from Nick, Seacucus is a much easier ride that Bridgewater or Chessequake. My office is in Woodbridge and when I have to go in, that 65 mile run down 287 can take over 2 hrs without any accidents. The GSP is no picnic either from up here.

I posted a solidarity movement by non-municipal and privately owned ranges to limit PD use to once a week. Soft pressure...increased travel to other ranges, overtime, hotels, more scheduling issues, less training dollars available, etc. Mayors, business managers, chiefs will start getting insane. If there isn't training, people don't make the grade in requals opens them up to HUGE lawsuits from defense attorneys. The first thing they want to see are training records and qualification results. Of course many are fudged, but enough will get thru. Think pressure like a tree root. Slow steady over time...

Exactly...soft power. Reduced range time, more money, over time, travel expenses, over night stays at hotels, meals, hookers and blow, etc. Those are pressures that make business managers, mayors and chiefs crazy. By LAW, they need to do requals twice a year and most do a piss poor job at that. Requal does not mean training...requals just show you are proficient. Training time should be a lot more then requal time. Soooooo, reduce the range availability and we start a legal nightmare if a LEO has to use their weapon. Defense attorneys will have a field day. Add in more money and aggravation and the voices get louder. The EPA won't let them just throw up a range. FWIW - Feds qual 4 times a year and have their own ranges.

Ya Think!!! WTF is going on in NYS, the country...ok, I'm not really surprised at all. I'm just tired of this dancing and want to get into it already if this is what they want.

I was at a training class at Allentown Police Academy and out instructor, a retired LEO, Washington State resident was coming to NJ for a couple of days and then flying out of Newark. He was an old school 1911 guy and I asked him if he was planning on traveling in NJ without ammo? He said no and when he told me he had JHP, I explained our laws and he went nuts about how stupid NJ was. No argument from me. I just gave him 2 mags worth of ball ammo to help him out.

The plans have been in place for 4 years. They were just waiting for the events to set the ball in motion.

So this is why the IRS placed an order for all that ammo and firepower. Yup, it is about to get real. http://beta.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/226/text?q=h.r. 226 113th CONGRESS 1st Session H. R. 226 To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to allow a credit against tax for surrendering to authorities certain assault weapons. _______________________________________________________________________ IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES January 14, 2013 Ms. DeLauro (for herself and Mr. Grijalva) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Ways and Means _______________________________________________________________________ A BILL To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to allow a credit against tax for surrendering to authorities certain assault weapons. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. This Act may be cited as the ``Support Assault Firearms Elimination and Reduction for our Streets Act''. SEC. 2. ASSAULT WEAPON TURN-IN CREDIT. (a) In General.--Subpart A of part IV of subchapter A of chapter 1 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended by inserting before section 26 the following new section: ``SEC. 25E. ASSAULT WEAPON TURN-IN CREDIT. ``(a) Allowance of Credit.-- ``(1) In general.--In the case of an individual who surrenders a specified assault weapon to the United States or a State or local government (or political subdivision thereof) as part of a Federal, State, or local public safety program to reduce the number of privately owned weapons, on the election of the taxpayer there shall be allowed as a credit against the tax imposed by this chapter an amount equal to $2,000. ``(2) Year credit allowed.--The amount of the credit under paragraph (1) shall be allowed \1/2\ for the taxable year during which the assault weapon was so surrendered and \1/2\ in the next taxable year. ``(b) Special Rules.-- ``(1) Weapon must be lawfully possessed.--No credit shall be allowed under subsection (a) with respect to any specified assault weapon not lawfully possessed by the taxpayer at the time the weapon is surrendered. ``(2) Substantiation requirement.--No credit shall be allowed under subsection (a) for the surrender of any specified assault weapon unless the taxpayer substantiates the surrender by a contemporaneous written acknowledgment of the surrender by the Federal, State, or local governmental entity to which the weapon is surrendered. ``(3) Denial of double benefit.--The taxpayer may elect the application of this section with respect to only 1 weapon, and if such election is made for any taxable year, no deduction shall be allowed under any other provision of this chapter with respect to the surrender or contribution of the specified assault weapon. ``© Assault Weapon.--For purposes of this section-- ``(1) In general.--The term `specified assault weapon' means any of the following: ``(A) The following rifles or copies or duplicates thereof: SNIPPED to make it shorter....the ususal AWB list, shrouds and things that go up were inserted here ``(d) Termination.--This section shall not apply with respect to any weapon surrendered during a taxable year beginning more than 2 years after the date of the enactment of the Support Assault Firearms Elimination and Reduction for our Streets Act.''. (b) Clerical Amendment.--The table of sections for subpart A of part IV of subchapter A of chapter 1 is amended by inserting before the item relating to section 26 the following new item: ``Sec. 25E. Assault weapon turn-in credit.''. © Effective Date.--The amendments made by this Act shall apply to taxable years beginning after the date of the enactment of this Act.

A lot of wiggle room there. Not in his pants, but the speech.

Just wait for the unknowing retired LEO that comes to NY with his 10 round CCW and gets arrested. A few things will happen. He will be made an example of and crucified. NYS will have all sorts of fire and brimstone come down from various LEO groups and the charges will be dismissed on a technicality. Or, if I was a cop, look the other way and tell him to GTFO of this state ASAP for his own good.

They are very, very busy doing secret things behind closed doors and back hallways in Trenton. Don't you dare pull back that curtain.

Truly a great suggestion and example what more groups need to do. But they lack balls, a spine and the American spirit to something that honorable. I'd love to see ammo suppliers and gun manufactures have the balls like Barrett has when he did and continues to refuse to sell his products to Commie-fornia. Do you really think they would be showing up to Trenton or send out that email if I and maybe some other members didn't embarass them into doing it? IF as a group of members DEMAND they shut down the range to LEO's, they might get the message. Why should ANJRPC be coddling with the potential enemy? Thanks Oneshot...I got some planning to do.

It is like assuming the position for a plane crash. Well, let's hope all that 'Heavy Lifting' ANJRPC has been doing pays off. Otherwise, my last emails will seem like love-letters.

Amen brother. See you there. I'll be dressing up like a HUGE penis...and will run madly at any politician or media type I see with my one good eye.

Go back into this post and you will see my encounter with a retired NY cop. Boy was he pissed off being a subject now instead of the preferred class. Not a dig to most LEO's, but we all know a few who think they are above the law.

I bet there were rocked on their heels. Ever see a spoiled child throw a fit because they couldn't get their way? What the 'thing' is or was is irrelevant, NOT getting their way sets them off. Trust me, I worked with middle east royalty and the fits some would have over the littlest things used to crack me up.

They have been the mouth piece for the NJ Democrats for decades. I hope the final demise is slow and agonizing for them.

We need to attack him / them at every angle and on everything. If we keep them so busy being defensive, they won't have resources to make more laws or institute more stupid policies.

I put in the CR thread...maybe I / we ruffled enough feathers for them to actually be current.

About time... http://by148w.bay148.mail.live.com/default.aspx?rru=getmsg?msg=EF1E232C-60C2-11E2-9842-00215AD82052 IMPORTANT Q&A FROM THE ASSOCIATION In light of recent events, we've received numerous questions from ANJRPC members. We believe the answers are of interest to all members, so we answer them here Q. ANJRPC has seemed quiet lately. What's going on? A. We are deeply engaged preparing for the most critical legislative battles gun owners have ever faced. Most of our work is behind the scenes right now and cannot be publicly discussed. We will have a lot to say when the time is right, as always. Q. What kind of threats are we facing in NJ? A. NJ legislators recently introduced 23 bills containing some of the most extreme measures ever proposed. Like requiring a psychological exam and in-home inspection before you can buy a firearm; 5-round ammunition capacity limit (a gun ban in disguise); draconian ammunition regulations, and a lot more. We will be providing detailed analysis of some of the worst of the bunch. And there may be more coming. Q. We saw what just happened with the passage of New York's extreme new gun laws. Can that happen here? A. Anything can happen in the Garden State, but there is a very different legislative and political dynamic in New Jersey right now than there is in New York.We are working to keep it that way. Q. Can my identity as a gun owner be obtained through freedom of information laws and published like what just happened in New York? A. No. New Jersey law is different from New York law and protects the identities of gun owners from disclosure Q. What's your take on the national situation? A. We're in the fight of our lives.Anti-gun extremists have seized on the Newtown tragedy as their watershed moment, and are going for broke. Their aim is to destroy the Second Amendment, and they are blaming you for what happened in Connecticut. The media are overwhelmingly biased in their favor, and are falsely portraying gun owners as divided. It is more important than ever that gun owners be unified and support national organizations like NRA. We all need to speak with one voice on a national level and defend freedom. Q. What can I do in New Jersey? A. Prepare for battle. That means understanding that in the end this is going to come down to a series of committee hearings and legislative floor votes.Those are key moments when we need to make ourselves heard with maximum impact. That means if you have limited time and energy, you might want to conserve your time and energy for those moments. We will alert you as we always do as the threats start to move, and we will make specific action requests, like asking you to contact legislators, attend hearings, etc. With 23 bills just dumped on us, there could be a lot of activity and a lot of requests, and each must be treated with the same importance and fervor as the rest Q. But I want to do more. Is there more I can do? A. Absolutely.You can proactively contact your legislators right now, you can write letters to the editor, you can donate to pro-Second Amendment organizations. Tell your legislators that these bills will do nothing to prevent another tragedy, will interfere with self defense, and wrongly punish law abiding citizens for the acts of criminals and madmen. But remember, the key moment of action will be committee hearings and floor votes. Your work is not done until you've weighed in then. Q. What about the February 8 rally in Trenton? A. If rallies are your thing, by all means, go. ANJRPC officers have been invited to speak and may well do so. The organizers have worked very hard putting this rally together, and we applaud their efforts. While rallies rarely change how legislators vote, they can be a great show of strength if well attended, and they can be inspiring. Just remember – your work is not done until you've weighed in with legislators at the key moments of action in the legislative process. For those interested, more on the rally is available here. Q. Is ANJRPC going to cave or compromise in the upcoming battles? A. Not a chance.For over a decade, we have fought in the trenches and defeated nearly every piece of misguided legislation that has come our way, against impossible odds. Our resolve is stronger than ever, and we will use every resource at our disposal to defend against this latest legislation dump. Q. Can legislators really force us to pass a psychological evaluation and have an in-home inspection as a condition of exercising my constitutional right to own a firearm? A. Legislators can write anything they want. If both houses of the legislature and the governor sign it, it becomes "law” even though it might be unconstitutional. It will stay on the books and be enforced by the organs of the state until someone challenges it. That's why ANJRPC has been aggressively using litigation to challenge some of the worst laws in New Jersey, and we have bigger plans in the works. Q. What is the impact of a 5-round magazine limitation? A. It's a stealth gun ban, an assault on the right of self defense, and would do nothing to prevent another tragedy. It would give criminals tremendous advantage over the law-abiding, and render many of the firearms you own useless.

Guess I struck a nerve with ANJRPC in my posts and emails. Scott Bach and Bob Viden are going to join us in Trenton now according to Frank's email this morning. Just thinking here, if we can't have our signs mounted to any 'frame' or pointy sticks, can we have a flag pole for our flags?

Register your AR's and anything that uses the word 'tactical' in the model name this year, so they can budget for the man power next year to confiscate all of them.

Moderate meaning they only buy one or two boxes of ammo a year?

Interesting read. http://theulstermanreport.com/2013/01/16/republican-insider-obama-livid-over-gun-rights-backlash/ A brief update from a Republican Insider fighting to renew conservative principles and defeat the globalist Big Government liberalism of Barack Obama and his supporters. (“Like a spoiled brat he can’t believe he had to scrap the original speech for today’s version.”) _____________________________ Like me you were probably watching the president’s gun control speech today. Was told this morning the presentation today was a revised version that was completed just last night after a bunch of back and forth between the White House and Senate leaders. Guessing that would be Harry Reid mostly. Last week the president was ready to go all in on the executive order scenario. Confiscation was going to be in play. Then the backlash came and it forced Obama to back off. He didn’t want to but after Reid said it was a no go, and the NRA was preparing to go to war with the White House, the president was given a revised script and that is what we heard this morning. You could tell too. Obama stumbled over the words more than usual. He didn’t have the time to prep the script like he normally does. Probably fuming he was forced to read the new version also. This time WE WON and OBAMA LOST. If people want to know how to go at the administration, this is how you do it. Be informed, and make your voices heard. This is an example of how the new media I have been telling you about can work against the globalists. It can be a huge weapon against them. And a big thank you to the NRA. It took on Obama and didn’t back off. A big part of the plan coming from the White House was to cripple the NRA and make it a liability for 2014 and beyond. That didn’t work and it will be a liability, but one that is going to hurt Democrats, not conservatives. Big time backfire for the Obama White House. I was told it “rocked them on their heels”. They fundamentally don’t understand the American people and they didn’t see this backlash coming. They have the media, and the glossy presentations, but they don’t really understand the American people and this debate was a pure example of that being played out. I love it! Congrats to the state governments that were willing to voice opposition too. They did that and took on a lot of risk. Heard a list is being made and federal dollars might be taken away from them. Those state leaders knew that could happen but took on the administration anyways. That’s real leadership and courage being put on display for all of us and voters living in those states need to let those leaders know it is appreciated. You know how I feel about how important the 10th Amendment is, and today was also a big victory for the 10th Amendment against the Obama White House. Now from here it’s clear Obama wants to try and use the issue as leverage for the 2014 midterms. They are hoping they can salvage something out of what became a fiasco for them. I just don’t sense enough Democrats willing to play along on this one though. Apparently the NRA and some other groups were lining up primary challengers to Democrats who went along with the president’s gun control plans and letting those Democrats know it was coming. That scared the heck out of them. Barack Obama is entering his lame duck phase, and the Democrats know it. After 2014 he becomes a museum piece. The president knows that too and it’s really ticking him off. We have to rub that in his face 24/7 while also building the conservative base back up into the kind of powerful entity it should be. When people get involved, and make some noise, they still have the power. Use the new media, contact the lawmakers both state and federal, and talk to the people around you. That is power. That is what makes America so great and that is what happened today. The president had his little moment, and was pretending it meant something, but he said nothing. That 21 (23) point plan or whatever it was, was hollow. It was a gutted version of what he was hoping to do as recently as a few days ago. Instead, he had to roll over and made a weak threat to Congress but that threat starts in the Senate and they already told him to shut up. Obama backed off. He lost this time, and it was all because of the American people. His media will try to spin it as something different, and if he gets another chance, the president will be right back to pushing for confiscation, but for now, we won this particular fight. This victory is a lot bigger than you’ll hear in the regular media. It’s a lot bigger than anyone who stood their ground will ever know about. The Obama White House was trying to go very big on this gun control thing, and couldn’t pull it off. And Barack Obama is livid about it. Like a spoiled brat he can’t believe he had to scrap the original speech for today’s version. Today was a great day for the good guys. Of course, there’s always another fight just around the corner, so we have to be ready. Let your readers know they did a great job on this. Each of them were a part of forcing the president to back off. Let’s do it again! -RI ________