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Thanks Shane. I don't visit here often any more, but saw you posted about this and figured it was worth the visit. Now to read the report. Stay safe,

Carl did my trigger on my M1A Scout. Turn around time was just a few days. Real gentleman.

Obviously feeling sorry for the guilt his family and friends will endure for many years to come. But my thoughts and prayers to all folks that operate RTSP. They will be having a tough time over the near future as well.

A solid leather jacket would defeat bird shot.

I remember him. I am actually in the third photo wearing black walking like Sasquatch by him. Nice guy from what I remember.

69 gr OTM. While I do love my shotgun. In my house I'd rather be able to pick my shots vs blasting at them. In my shed in the yard, bear country I keep a 20 gauge with slugs handy.

I didn't know that the Gen 2 had all those Anti-Christ features. Poop....I wanted to get a Glock S2K in 9mm for my daughter.

Before you lay out big coin, have you considered the KelTec Sub 2000? Not pretty, not precision, but fun to shoot. Being able to use the Sub2k mags in my pistol has an added appeal. Also, it folds in half and is about 17 x 8 x 1.5 inches or close to it. Mine are a little longer because I put a muzzle brake / AR front sight combo on them. I have two in 40 cal. One in Sig and one for Glock.

Please stay away from here....let me check it first and I will let you know.

Old Yeller would have an ending of the owners being led away in handcuffs in today's world. I've almost choked my dog to death when she bit my hand real bad. I caught her doing something she knew was wrong, and when I went to grab her collar she chomped on my fingers really bad. I mean mangled flesh and down to bone bad. I twisted the collar TIGHT as I lifted her off the ground with blood running down my arm and then laid her on the ground as I tighten even more. If it wasn't for my twin girls screaming not to do it, that dog would have been toast. And then it was off to ER for irrigation and wound care. I don't care if you have two or four legs, you bite me, I'm shutting you down.

I have a 99 FXD Dyna Glide. Not a sport bike and certainly not as nimble as my 78 Triumph Bonneville that is bored out. But, putting Ricon Intermediators in the front and their springs in the rear made a HUGE difference in handling. The Mikuni Flat Slide carb, properly jetted, with some Vance & Haines allows me to purr with the pack at 80+ without any issues. A Woods Cam and a 95" kit are one the horizon. I'm just not a European riding position type of guy. At 6'0 I could use more leg room. But that's what highway pegs are for...being able to switch positions. Shite, I use my passenger pegs on long hauls just to stretch.

Thanks for the offer. But I researched that round and there is no way you are going to find that on the shelf at a local sporting goods shop. Then again as I find fewer and fewer 6.8 resources this might be a lost cause. My biggest gripe against the 300 AAC was it was truly designed for subsonic / suppressors which in NJ we know about that forbidden fruit. Savage dropped the R&D on it because they couldn't keep the accuracy they stake their reputation on. Kudos to them for keeping their standards. Remington has the Micro 7 and SPS in 300BLK. Ruger has a Ranch Rifle in 300 AAC but I have read nothing but trouble with their rotary magazines for it. I may have to revisit the 300 and look at doing some bottom metal work on a Remy 700 for detachable magazines. But then they become stupid expensive. IF, IF Ruger could un-phuck their magazine issue, I'd consider that rifle as they could be had for around $400 compared to $600 - $800 for the Remy's.

Old School the answer is....Yes. In true NJ fashion I am considering both. The 6mm AR I've seen come up a few times, but I am hoping to optimize a more common, or soon to be more common round. From what I have read, you are more likely to find (if in stock) 6.8spc on a shelf than say the other boutique AR suitable calibers. My choices tend to be anchored on availability. Hence I shy from the Short Magnums and the quasi Wildcat rounds or even Ackley Improved stuff. I would love to find a nice bolt action carbine for longer hikes into the woods. I have only had two or three deer that I have taken say in the 150 yard area. The other 90% have been under a 100 yards. So as age comes along, the need to schlep a 308/30-06/300WM is less desirable. I've taken deer in VA with 223's and they dropped like getting hit with a 30. Shot placement and selecting the proper performing bullet is everything.

Thanks Rutgers. Former RU Newark guy myself... Sometime ago I did lurk a bit in the 6.8 forums, but sometimes platform specific forums have too many people that drank the Kool-Aid and aren't as objective as they should be. I've had a few C-Product mags pop their upper spot welds on 556 mags. But for the price, they would be fine for the range and just have a stash of Stoner or another quality mag. I did see that the earlier version of Stoner mags has some follower and feeder tab issues but that seems to have been corrected from more current reviews. The 556 uppers would be for plinking and training and the 6.8's would be for field use. My dilema is that everything I get into, I also make sure my oldest son will be dialed in with the right kit for when he is old enough.

Please spare me any debates on 300 / 6.5 / 458 SOCOM. After sitting on the fence for some time, I think I am going to dive into a new caliber after thinning the stable a bit. From my observations, there seems to be a decent amount of brass and ammo available. I reload and have found dies available, (need to find carbide ones). The bigger question I have is the damn magazines. A little steep in price...not like Ruger GSR or my old AR10T mags that were stoopid expensive.I'm hoping to hear that some lower cost ones might be on the horizon ala P-Mags. If anyone has heard any rumors I'd appreciate it. I am now rubbing the magic lamp I bought on Ebay...I am wishing that Mossberg would come out with a 6.8 MVP. Or even find another 16-20 inch bolt gun would be nice. Can't seem to find one that is a normal catalog item. So any personal insights would be appreciated. Please refrain from my brother in law worked with a guy whose cousin knew someone that... Thanks in advance.

I've been using one for 15+ years. They really are a good piece of low tech kit to have. I also use my 5.11 Watch with a ballistic calculator to compare the two. A good way to keep current is with some of the shooting software / games out there.

I was pleasantly surprised when it arrived to have a 30mm tube.I figured for the price it was going to be a 1" tube. I have a few sets of 1" QD rings floating around....now I need to order some 30mm. This is going to be a great optic for my 16 y/o son's AR.

Just ordered one. Thanks for the tip. I was looking at these as a low cost optic for a lesser AR that I have and this fits the bill.

I would keep my current house until my kids finished school. Maybe 'divorce' my wife so she could keep the NJ residence with kids here until they move on to college. Me, have a 'residence' like an apartment in PA until we figure out taxes, estate planning for the kids. My needs would be simple, a modest house and a hunting cabin someplace with land adjacent to a farm or other large tract. The rest would be for the next generations.

80 rounds of 308 trumps 80 rounds of 556. And you aren't humping it thru brush.

That was a good read. My uncle was a Marine 'advisor' in Vietnam from 63 - 65. As a kid, I heard nothing but horror stories about the Mattel 16 and the M14 was held on a pedestal. I qualified in Basic with a M16A2 in March of 1984. Our first rounds down range were from prone. Of course under strict instruction and heavy over watch by the RSO's, we laid there following instructions. As I laid there, my eyes were searching for the 'Made by Mattel' stamp as I waited for my turn to load and fire. The RSO sees my roving eyes and canting of the rifle so i could look at the underside for that damn 'M' postage stamp logo Mattel used. He takes a knee next to my position and asks, "WTF are you doing?"....Me - 'Nothing'. RSO - "Don't tell me you are looking for the Mattel Stamp"...Sir, Yes, Sir. RSO - 'Dumb Ass, these are Colts. Who told you that?" It was a pretty funny exchange. Then I got to carry a M16A2 to conduct 'Safety Inspections' around the Panama Canal Zone. Nothing like being surrounded by steel using FMJ. We were still using OLD 1911's that had so much slop if was a wonder they still shot. Most of us preferred carrying shotguns for boardings. As a civilian, I finally broke down and bought my first NM AR-15 after getting frustrated shooting my M1 Garand in Service Rifle. The first day at the range to zero it and start load development it was windy as hell. When I went to check my targets a gust of wind grabbed my mat off the bench and flipped my new AR upside down onto the asphalt. It landed on the front sight and carry handle. I could tell because I had to wipe the little pieces of asphalt off of the front sight ears and the carry handle thru my tears of dread and endless strings of OMFG's. Ops Check it. Loaded a fresh mag and to my amazement, it held zero and was fine. IF that was my M1, everything would've been off. Tough Love lesson, but convinced me that the AR was better than I gave it credit for. Then there were matches in the rain, advanced training in foul weather, heat, dirt, etc. I never had an issue with an AR. Still not my ideal caliber, but, hits and durability count. I do own a SA M1A Scout that has had some work done to it. I love that rifle. But am under no illusion that it is that Muscle Car that I 'have to have' but fully know, that it is not the vehicle I take when SHTF. On the same note....if SHTF, am I jumping on my Harley with a M1A? No. It will be my Kawasaki KLR650 with my M4'gery. Bro'mance versus practicality.

If you enjoy doing the work and spending the money, then it is not a waste. You know the drill, write out your wish list and put some real numbers to it and see where you land. Are you going to have a Franken-rifle for a lot of money? Or pick up a factory fresh tack driver for about the same coin? there are some nice deals now that prices have come down on some used toys.

I would love to see a timed competition of who can get (survive) three shots on targets with these.

You can also try Davis Sport Shop about 5 min over the border in NYS off Rte. 17. Not the cheapest for bulk powder or reloading, but, they tend to have stuff. If you bring your own butt lube, you can try Ramsey Outdoor. I haven't bought powder, or any reloading supplies from them in about 10 years because of the prices. I swear they mark up the suggested retail prices by 20%.

Still do I believe. I reload or buy in bulk so I haven't come across these in some time. Handy little bastards they are.