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Shane, just a FYI about people stepping up. Nothing hostile here, just my observations. Again, I didn't have a dog in this fight and had no axe to grind. I did pull back from the group over the last year or so because of some actions I saw. As more people came forward with their negative interactions with FF, I was disappointed. Then after getting that group PM and seeing his actions first hand, I became disgusted. I actually feel sorry for his inability to correct the course and see where a huge part of the problems lies. Its not Ron. Ron lampooned him, not the members of the group. Then the Genie came out of the bottle and its an angry Genie. During this made for Reality TV Drama, several people have shared that they have tried to throw their hats into the ring, have offered to take some of the load and were rebuffed. Others tried to 'ground' the course of the leader and were met with hostility. Sadly, a great start is being thwarted and having its growth and long term success stymied by the creator. Look it happens all the time in business. People create a good product or idea and the company grows beyond their abilities to manage. At some point the Board or Investors vote the founder out. My company has just gone thru it.

He took back his resignation.

Yes Nick that is how he treated several members. They shared screen shots and to say it was unprofessional would be an understatement.

Don't worry, FF is back. Sailor's Promise...I'm out.

Some prior upper 'management' types of the group have also shared some insight on why they stepped down. All the evidence is painting a picture of someone that I would not want to support. The group yes. The person. ...NFW.

I was middle of the road until I saw more and more evidence coming to light. Telling someone that the org has no interest or resources is one thing. Calling them effing stupid and personal attacks are another. If you can't handle the pressures of the position delegate or step down. I think the control issues, pride and just arrogance fueled this beyond where it needed to go.

No thank you's coming from me. Let me get banned or give me the boot. I'm sure it is just a matter of time before he comes on here to sniff out friends and foes and then the PM attacks will start. He forgets, the 2A isn't HIS issue alone. This organization is his. Or should I say, the dues paying members and the incredible volunteers he has own it. It is not his any longer. Smokin - I send money and show up to important events. I do a lot of volunteer work with my church and am a NRA EDC. I used to volunteer at CR as the LEO, but things got a little odd over there and I pulled out. I'm not going to revisit that one. You can check the CR pages and see for yourself. I criticized and opened up a can of worms when the Trenton rallies were just starting to form and ANJPRC weren't involving themselves in it.

How about we all need to wear NJ2AS T-Shirts to attend the meeting? Regardless of what becomes of me and my involvement, this is a healthy process for them to go thru. Enough ideas have been suggested that FF will have to listen to some of them. The idea of having Regions makes sense. The ideas of worrying less about 'offending' someone needs to move forward in a big way. As I said in one post, 90% of my T-shirts will offend someone somewhere without question. Tough Shite.

I think you know Ryan...If I am correct he posted a picture of his check. I could be wrong. No opinion either way on this. Vlad and mipafox....djg is pretty spot on with his fictitious email from FF.

He is right on that. I was at Trenton twice. I was in DC with Heller and actually did the Protection work for Larry Pratt when we had a dismal turn out for the National 2A protest in DC and the Right to Carry in VA right across the river. From what I have seen, you can't question him or his direction. Reagan was a genius because he knew, if someone didn't agree with you 20% of the time, that meant they DO agree with you 80% and that is a relationship worth keeping. I don't think FF thinks that way. "Again - in case you did not get the memo - the purpose of *MY* - yes MY page (I am the page creator) is to further the mission of the NJ2AS. If you aren't on board - just LEAVE!" That response in a nut shell speaks volumes about his position.

It is not up to me to post the emails and PM's Frank has sent to a variety of other people. Yesterday he initiated a private message to a group lampooning Frank's banning of people created by Ron. Ron is a solid guy IMHO. So FF starts this PM with like 30 people and it didn't go as planned and he stepped out of the conversation he started. He was invited back in to answer some questions but bailed out...again. On Ron's page goofing on the situation, people started sharing their private emails and PM's from FF for having a different view on tactics and techniques. And then it really starting hitting the fan. I was pretty neutral at first, but after seeing his communications, the PM he started and being educated in Profiling people to a certain degree, the guy has issues and I will leave it at that. If he steps down, I will continue my membership with them. If he is involved, count me out. Ryan - Kudos for the summary of the situation.

Maybe PM's like this are part of the reason. I was involved in the beginning but saw a pattern of things and pulled back. This was about 20 minutes ago. 27 minutes ago Scott you don't know me - don't act like you do Again - in case you did not get the memo - the purpose of *MY* - yes MY page (I am the page creator) is to further the mission of the NJ2AS. If you aren't on board - just LEAVE! I certainly do not need or want you here.

A positive transaction of a transfer and purchase of a pistol. Nice to have a FFL with reasonable pricing a few miles away. Many thanks.

Also consider a KelTec Sub 2000 in 9mm or 40. Uses standard pistol mag format, Glock, Berretta. Minimal recoil, folds in half and will do a lot more damage then a 22 or OC.

Because of work, I always keep a nice can of wasp spray with me. I need to climb on roofs, check out mechanical spaces, etc so I have a 'bona fide' need. Working in the school districts of Jersey City and other fine places, that spray is a nice piece of mind.

Books...books...books. Some of my favorites are actually packed in zip-locks. I have my important documents scanned and on USB drives and hard copies also packed in zip-locks.

I've been a long time 'prepper'. Being stationed in Alaska and hanging out with Mormon's who have been truly dialed into preparedness really opened my eyes and expanded my knowledge. From a Business Continuity Planning perspective, a crisis doesn't matter if it is natural or man made. Same applies to personal planning. A pandemic, civil unrest, weather or a massive supply chain disruption will encounter many of the same challenges as time goes on. The initial reaction might be different, but as days turn into weeks or months it will all become the same. Survival.

I got one in a M4 government profile and it is a quality upper for sure. No difference then my Stag or RRA uppers.

I have a 223 Wylde Chambered AR that is set up for NM. From what little I know, there is just a minor difference in the chamber should angle / cut. Also, FWIW and YMMV, it is 'supposed' to be more for precision shooting. But who knows. I also have this chamber on an 18" HB Rock River AR15. For a carbine, that SOB was heavy as hell. The twist is going to provide the stability versus the chamber cut which only holds the case. Your land and grooves send that happy pill on its way.

Catalogs....damn SG and CTD keep sending them even though I haven't ordered from either in years. Its like contacting Front Sight and needing a restraining order to get Ignatius Piazza to stop harassing you.

Go to Germany and visit some homes. Having furniture over a hundred years old is the norm. F - Ikea and Walmart particle board stuff. Buy once, cry once. Quality firearms, quality cars, appliances and other big ticket items save you money if they are built right and key word here....repairable. Want to reduce landfill volume...return to products that can be repaired.

How about we also factor in under-employed?

I can teach the Sig P220 Compact that I am selling to sing your name versus call it.

I left them some time ago after many years as a good customer. They wouldn't send an AR front sight adjustment tool to me because I live in NJ. And then a few more other stupid actions and they lost me. They used to be my primary mail order...(yes before Al Gore invented the internet) source for discount stuff. I haven't spent a dollar with them for at least 5 years now.

I guess it is our small towns that have a larger then average hunting population that makes the process less 'criminal'. Case in point. Last year a middle school kid brought in an AirSoft gun to school to show off. Teacher saw it, grabbed kid brought him down to the principal. Police were called in, principal was told to stand down and chil'lax (he was a VP in Newark prior). Parents notified, kid disciplined.....no media circus. The way it ought to be done.