Wojo

After seeing that thrower in action, I might have to add that to my wish list. Question for the group, has anyone used the "Wobble" option and what does it entail? I looked at Natchez and I thought (could be wrong) that it was an entirely different unit.

Ken, I'm 15 minutes down the road on 23 so I typically hit CR on Monday or Tuesday mornings when there is barely anyone there. And I'm the LE Liaison for the club so spend a bunch of time doing non-range activities for the club. I will be back up later in the week after school to bring my twin girls up to shoot some rimfire rounds and work on their skills. They are behind just turning 10 and all.

Hey, I'm in the video (waay down at the end) at the shotgun range. I was the guy who's son who was shooting that POS Rossi single shot that wouldn't eject. Or later in the day would eject about every third one. It was a last minute decision to hit the range and between rushing out so I could be home in time for dinner and getting my son home in time for last minute school stuff I left a vital range box home. That's for use of the cleaning rod! First and last Taurus / Rossi gun I will ever own. We were at a Friends of the NRA dinner and the "Oh Dad, that looks cool, can you get it for me" worked. Nice stock, and that's about it. FWIW, that was the first time I used the shotgun range since they moved it. Not the best set up for patterning a shotgun if other people are there. Nonetheless, any time at the range with my son is a good time. And as that Rossi started to self destruct, I mentioned to one of you guys that he will be getting a 870 for his birthday in November. I wish I had known who you guys were and I would have introduced myself. Cheers, Wojo

That's a pretty good find right there.

I have three new shooters and I am looking at the Marlin for my girls and the 870 in 20 gauge for my 12 year old who is big for his age. He shoots my AR's, Marlin 336, SKS and even will take a couple of shots with the M1 so I am pretty confident he can handle the full size 870 for upland game. Shit, even if I have to trim an 1" off the stock myself it would be worth it. At least this is something that will last him for a number of years. But I'll be damned if I can find that flyer anywhere on line.

I'd imagine in a couple of years when the price comes down or the capabilities improve, these would be super nice for doing recon while hunting without disturbing your quarry. Or keeping tabs on your kids. When my girls get to that dating age, I will have a bunch of GPS toys to track boyfriends and their locations. Just owning this and telling them that there is a built in Taser would keep enough doubt in their little heads to prevent some inappropriate touching. The quadrant fans look to be encased in some typed of coated Styrofoam. I'd imagine hard landings would be the death of this thing.

Where did you get the flyer on line? I hate when you go to the .com site, they never list firearms or ammo. Or is my search skills really that bad?

Well Rayray, this post just ejum-ekaded me on Charter Arms. I guess I'll stand my goofy baseless answer in the ire drawing post about AK's I made. I hope things work out for you and the gun is safe enough to sell or use.

I agree, and I own one! I knew I'd draw a reaction out of that one... I really just don't know enough about them to put them on any wish list but carried away typing. It's Friday Night fights...come on down. I see it coming now, the landslide of Saiga owners and everyone else trying to sell me on something that doesn't feel right to me. Kinda like tofu turkey or eating humus or embracing various pride days. I'm a square, I'll admit it.

Read my opening statement again please. But since you asked... So I'm also assuming... You won't own a Charter Arms revolver because of the Son of Sam - I just wouldn't own a Charter Arms period You won't own any 1903 Pocket, BAR, Thompson, Browning Auto 5, because those were used by notorious gangsters? I'd love to own all of these American classics. Even though I don't know what a 03 Pocket is...sounds cool though You won't own a Mercedes, because that's what Hitler loved (and drove) - I think MB's are over rated and over priced and generally don't care to associate with the majority of people that flaunt them. ...Or a Volkswagen, because the company was founded by a Nazi Trade Union - VW's...see my Avatar, frigging POS hippe wagons. My vegan anti-US brother loves them :roll: And no, I won't own most of the other 3rd world firearms you mentioned. I am an American first and foremost. I do my best to buy American (gets harder everyday) and have the freedom to spend my money where and how I want. I hope you spend your money how you want. Honestly, I really don't care. I drive Fords, Chevy's and my last foreign car was a Land Rover. I currently own Triumph (since '81) and Harley Davidson (since '99) Motorcycles...see a pattern here? I'm a Cold War Veteran and continue to deal with terrorism and counter terrorism issues. When we train, we typically say, "if they are holding an AK, they ain't on our side." I have friends that own AK's. I even let them come in the front door of my house. And if are nice, I'll offer some water, maybe even a beer. Really dude, relax about my personal choices. Life is too short for you to worry about me being a Red Blooded American. Carry On. Oops forgot to add: I studied Russian History in college and was stationed in Alaska and was exposed to all sorts of Russian culture. And no I couldn't see Russia from where I was like Palin. I'm pretty well versed in WW2 and have family that jumped on D-Day. I'll take the Ruskie women, the rest you can have. Let me leave you with this, my grandfather who was 82nd AB, was captured by the Germans and escaped twice (but beaten). When the Russian's liberated him, they stole his watch which the German's allowed him to keep even after all his antics. Don't try to sell me on Russian products.

Oh I've had that encounter before. I wasn't a true salesman, but was involved with technical sales and support and this brought to the surface a few unpleasant memories and people's name I've repressed for a number of years.

I won't fault the likes of others, but personally I just can't fathom owning an AK. Every group I loathe and have trained to do battle against, embraces the AK. Having an SKS in my safe is bad enough and it is my only commie weapon and I won't allow another one. The SKS was an impulsive buy when I saw creates of them with accessories for $125 & I couldn't pass it up. I think the Garands and AR's taunt the SKS in my safe when I am not watching. So for now, it is neither. I sold an Armalite AR10-T 24" with an Eagle Arms flat top 20" upper because the ammo was just too expensive to shoot. Too heavy for the field (although I shot several whitetails with it) and you can't use it for shooting in service rifle competitions, so I sold it. I'd love to have a .30 AR, but until dollars start flowing in big way, practicality will take precedence.

Chris, that is much nicer then what was crossing my mind. I have owned shirts that I wouldn't want my kids to read. I still have few stashed in my basement. The more offensive they are, the more they call my name. My wife recently drew the line about on the one with image of a pole dancer and the caption of supporting single mom's...having three daughters I can see her view point. :naughty:

Jihad on my fictitious flat tire. But honestly, could you image the headlines? Forget about it if I was wearing one of my non-PC t-shirts. Facts don't have any merit in NJ journalism. Guilty until proven otherwise when it comes to gun ownership.

I bought a SKS close to 17 years ago and it has never malfunctioned or had a FTF or FTE. A little too short for me, but fun as hell to shoot. (My 11 y/o sons loves to shoot it, but not as much as an AR.) I wrestle with changing the stock and adding a scope, etc., etc., and still haven't done a thing to it. All of my parts, having matching serial numbers and the wood is outstanding so I can't complain. YMMV. I have been considering do a bigger bore AR upper in either 6.8 or x39. The 6.8 is just too $$$ even though the ballistics are better. But under 200 yards, the x39 is more then adequate. My only negative about the x39 is trying to find some 15 and 5 round magazines for it (hunting and culling zombies). There might be some out there now, but when I was looking I couldn't get any satisfaction. I would love to build a nice hunting AR for white tails in x39 using Nosler 125g BT's. Plus the x39 punches thru windshields much better for those zombie cab drivers that defy neighbor check points.

All of the NRA LE courses I have taken require between 1,000 to 2,000 rounds for the 5 day course. I took Chris Fry's two day course and IIRC we burned thru close to 1,000 rounds. And with each course I can honestly say it wasn't just spraying lead for a round count, but shooting to better your skills. I always wonder what type of headlines I would make if by chance I got a flat, and the NJSP pulled up when the trunk was opened or I had to lay ammo boxes and a few cased AR's / handguns on the side of the road trying to get to the spare. "Family man, Veteran, Church goer, Oath Keeper, Tea Party member and Rescue Team member declares jihad on Route 78. More on this after this update on making Michael Jackson's birthday a national holiday"...

Good post. My son is old enough to hunt this year, so I thought I would get him started with upland game / birds in Black Rock. He isn't ready for turkey or deer just yet. I've have pheasant hunted twice in NJ at some clubs over the last 15 years. For a variety of reasons, I don't hunt NJ and usually hunt VA and NY. But this year I am staying local and trying out the new bow (150' rule). Crow might be a good opportunity to learn this WMA. I know they were smart, but never knew they deployed scouts...that's some schnizzle right there. I have to investigate this crow hunting more. An old coworker used to rave(n) about how much fun crow hunting was, but we could never make it happen.

@ sirsloop, I had a Rhodesian Ridgeback growing up. My Uncle and Aunt for decades bred and showed Ridgebacks until they retired and moved to VA out or Relion Kennels. Notice the Lion in the name. Great dogs but some can be temperamental. Ours tagged the mailman and then bit my little brother pretty badly and we realized it was time for her to go. My uncle had a massive Ridgeback that created an incident with the UPS guy. When my aunt was home alone, she heard a 'help me' from the front door. The UPS guy decided to open the door and let himself in to deliver a package. Without a bark from the 3 or 4 Ridgebacks that were allowed in the house, Banner, the largest, had this guy in a death grip on his wrist. Badly broke the skin and caused some tissue damage. If this guy resisted, he would have been wolf-packed by a bunch of dogs. The other 8 to 10 dogs were out in the kennel area...easy way to get rid of the evidence. They used to live in Denville until the late 70's and then bought a bunch of land down in Frenchtown. Who knows, you might have one of their dogs or kin thereof.

Depends on the type of dog! A chihuahua or little yapper wouldn't do much for you. I have to disagree with this one. I hate small dogs. If it is smaller then a football, it is a cat or a rodent in my book. I love my cats, but they will have KC's Masterpiece BBQ on them over some Ramien Pride Noodles by about day four. I will offer this on the small vermin they call dogs. They make lots of noise and are naturally more on the defensive because of their size. Therefore, they make very good alarm systems. From the other side of the door, you can't really tell what type of dog it is and most won't take the chance. At the very least, the perps will know that the humans on the other side have been alerted and the element of surprise is gone. The furry footballs will eat much less then the big dogs and if you have to stay inside, dealing with their waste is much easier than the Rottie / Shepherd that dumps like a human. Me, I'll keep my Vizsla who can help me hunt and has already proven her worth twice by going after the Black Bears that stray into my yard. I'd shoot my POS brother before taking down my dog. A dog is money well spent. What's a Vizsla you ask? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vizsla

Flooding is our biggest threat in this state. Wet soil, wind, trees down...no power, road blocks, no first responders, no food / gas / beer deliveries. Hospitals are only regulated to keep 4 days of O2 on hand and the list goes on. Stock up on some water, canned chicken / tuna, Sterno cans, batteries and lay low for a few days is the best idea if you can. If you have a generator, do not be running it at night and letting the da'hood see that your 60" Plasma TV is up and running and your Tiki Bar is open for biz'natch. Stay invisible and stay safe. The value of having a good quality chain saw and extra chains, oil, gloves etc. will be coming into play. I do this shit for a living.

I can tell you even in the business world disaster denial is the biggest issue I face getting clients to see reality. I own the NJ office for Firestorm and Disaster Preparedness is what we do. Business Continuity, Workplace Violence, Pandemic Planning, Crisis Management...all the fun stuff to talk about at parties and gatherings. I also do personal preparedness training. In October (or so) I will be conducting a personal preparedness seminar at Gun for Hire in case anyone is interested. In the mean time, you can download our book for disaster preparedness for the home via the attached link below. If you want a hard copy contact me and for like $7.00 I can drop one in the mail. http://www.firestorm.com/book/ We also had a soft launch of our Emergency Preparedness Network call the Preaction Alliance which is the link below. If you want a free 90 day membership (worth $85.00) let me know and I can give you a coupon code for the purchase. Check out FIRESTORM'S PREACTION EMERGENCY RESPONSE ALLIANCE http://preaction.com/affiliates/preaction.php?id=87

I have a Boyd's classic (or is it Monte Carlo) in laminate black / white / gray on my Savage 111 300RUM and love it. I have long arms and the added length, girth in the grip and slightly longer pull really fit me well. Just make sure the dimensions of the new stock work with your size. Might I also throw this out there. I put a Bell & Carlson stock on my Savage Weather Warrior in 308 and am super impressed with this one. This is my go to deer rifle and if need be tactical shooter because after some minor work, this set up now shoots sub MOA's day in and day out. http://www.bellandcarlson.com/duramaxx.html

Hey, another coastie?!? Guilty as charged. I am probably one of the more misguided coasties you will run into. Too many times to mention I was asked by senior NCO / O's why did I chose 'them' and I should have went into the USMC. My answer was simple, at the time, the Army and Marines weren't allowed to shoot back and weren't issued ammo in places like Lebanon. Being a kid from NJ, growing up in Belleville, you can't expect me not to defend myself.

This is bits and pieces of information that I presented in a committee report. Please keep in mind these are GOVERNMENT provided statistics that NEVER will be reported on the MSM. We need to track prosecutors, judges and conflicts of interest in order to appease special interest groups. Statewide Shooting Environment Overview for July 2010 There were 100 shooting incidents statewide in July (up 4.17% from June), resulting in 120 victims, 21 of whom were murdered. Investigators identified 25 suspects. Compared to the first seven months of 2009, shooting incidents have increased 24%, from 485 to 602. In July 2009, there were 76 incidents, compared to 100 in July 2010, a 31.6% increase. In July 2010, 33 victims and 11 suspects were either active parolees or had previously had been on parole. Over 90% of the nearly 700 people involved in shooting incidents this year were recidivist offenders. The majority had extensive and violent criminal histories including weapons offenses and narcotics distribution charges. Police recovered 294 crime guns between January 1, 2010 and June 30, 2010. Analysis of these crime gun recoveries revealed the following:

I'd be willing to share my knowledge in deer hunting, land navigation, reading TOPO's and some basic wilderness survival stuff. I was stationed in AK for a couple of years, endured Survival Training and currently am a Special Deputy with the Sheriff's Search Team. We conduct all sorts of drills and training and I'd be willing to put some educational stuff together if desired. FWIW, I am looking to get back into bird hunting now that my son is old enough and I have a wonderful bird dog that needs to get some real birds and not just scented decoys.