JackDaWack

HAha!! im actually thinking about going to the court hearing on the 25th, i grew up in wyckoff, and currently live a town over, it would be interesting to see what happens. Wyckoff is a no BS town when it comes to stuff like this or anything in general, very strict.

You could get a carbon filter with a serious fan to clean the air when you shoot... wouldn't cost more then $600 bucks.

OMG!! so Fckn annoying!!

And he was the one saying that you cant compare a police officers job to anyone else! he may have indirectly proved his point...lol Let's just forget the whole money argument for now, the dui/dwi convo is more interesting anyway.

Im not saying to regulate the way companies spend there money, after all they are being forced to hire the LEO's, a municipality could easily make a company hire the LEO's more then required if at all..or else the road work is not sanctioned. Dont get me wrong, my town... for instance, rarely has cops sitting around watching traffic. However, the town right next door will always have one present no matter how small a job takes place on the road way, and there is always at least two of them even if just 10feet of the road is blocked. I can see it plain as day that it is a municipality issue... otherwise there would always be one present which is not the case. I can clearly see some towns abuse this.

Well i don't know where the miscommunication lays but i know quite a few retired LEO's who have discussed how overtime worked its way into their pension.

- so then please tell me how overtime works into their pension? I herd that a while back they were trying to change the pension system because cops were putting in hours of overtime during there last 3 years before retirement to pump up their pension.. Why don't these companies just pay some guy with a flag to direct traffic for 10 an hour.... like they do 50% of the time? And the DWI details are paid with grant money!!! taxpayers money!! What about when they post up seat belt checks? or inspection checkpoints? or when they need to put extra guys on the schedule for a town event? No matter how you look at it one way or another the money is coming out of the peoples pocket. If a town requires 3 cops sit at an intersection when road work is taking places... they charge the company and the company charges me. The cops get paid a fat overtime check to sit on their cell phones( and really i dont blame them, what else are they gonna do..

It was just an example... I was not saying teachers should make overtime and i'm not comparing jobs, im saying when u make salary your paid for the year to do your job and all the details that come with it... last time i checked cops are not paid by the hour and their pay should not reflect that like every other person who makes a salary... People who make salary don't punch out when their 8 hours are up, they go home when the work is done. Imagine if every person went to their superior and said hey i put in more then 40 hours this week i want overtime for that... It's even worse when u have 3 cops making overtime watching road work.. Im not bashing cops, just the system in which they work for... to me it is a joke and a slap in the face to the people who pay them..

Grey area? you can have any windows tinted but the front windows to any percentage you want.... no grey area i know of.. and no mirror tint

Having to make an appointment can be vague... I have to make appointments to pick up and drop off forms, however, i accept those terms because the appointments are always when 1 of the 3 LEO's who handle the paperwork are on duty. No one else in the PD will touch the paperwork which is actually nice. If they are on duty when i call i just meet them at the station, if not then i have to wait until one of them is on duty... When its ready for pickup same deal, when ever they are on duty they just meet with me at the PD. However, making you wait a month just to apply is absurd.

Just to verify, a few months back we did some poking around and yes, BB and blackpowder guns do not require a NICS check.

Yes, you fail to realize that there is still no reasonable/probable cause for the stop in the first place. The only thing the court decision up held is that "probable cause" holds more discretion during a motor vehicle stop and is all that is needed to search only the passenger compartment. In respect to having your home searched, where as probable cause holds little to no meaning and you don't have to let anyone in your house with out a search warrant. The point many people in here are making, is that regardless of what the courts uphold, it is still a violation of the 4a. Giving the cops the right to violate our rights..... we know about this all to much... At these sobriety checkpoints, which motorists may choose to avoid, only the initial brief stop and preliminary questioning may take place without individualized suspicion This is called being detained with no rhyme or reason, you may not pass through the stop with out first being interrogated... if it wasn't a violation of the 4a they wouldn't have had a case over it and had to make an "exemption". Why would it only translate to motor vehicle stops? were not talking about your right to drive a car, were talking about your rights in general. Oh god, and please tell me exactly my choice is to avoid such checkpoints? They wrote that in the most vagueness of terms as if people have a choice to go around the checkpoint... My guess... people were getting away with getting out of DUI's by claiming their 4th amendment rights... Instead of getting rid of them, the courts did the exact opposite and decided to exempt. And why the hell do cops who make salary get paid overtime for this? It's not like teachers get paid overtime for back to school night... or any other events they're required to attended after hours.

I wear under Armour gloves all the time. If its under 35 out my hands start to hurt if i'm out side too long. Some guys i work with dont wear gloves and there hands turn a bright red... no tanks! lol. There on the steep side in price but damn are they worth it. I see they have tactical gloves.... my local store doesnt carry those, would be nice to see how they fit.

I meant when the gun is already drawn.. not during a draw. I wouldn't point a gun at someone with the safety on is all i was saying, nor would i have my finger on the trigger unless i intended to pull it.

That may be the case. I've only read the federal laws in regards.

From what i understand you could have them sent to your house in NJ.

uhhh, Fk yeah!

I don't think anyone would argue a saftey being a bad thing, but that last thing u want to do is fumble with a safety when your firearm is drawn. You would have to take your finger off the trigger anyway to arm it, its just pointless.

From what i understand, nothing guarantees rank advancement. Rightfully so if you think about it.... the higher up the rank, the less positions available.

Your finger is the only safety you will even need.

I was gonna say the same thing, unless all NYPD officers are "muscle men" how the hell is 7 1/2 pounds a "light" trigger pull. If i'm not mistaken that's actually more on the heavy then light side. aren't the M&P models not just about the same? Honestly, when i opened up this thread i was expecting to see the gun with ~ a 3lb trigger pull, but wtf is wrong with people, how do u accidentally assert more the 7lb's to a trigger? Especially when your f'n finger isnt supposed to even be on it...

already have a VT trip planned mid january!! oh i cant wait, spending a week up there.

Just finished my degrees today, damn it feels good. I had to write a 30pg paper to pass my seminar class.

From a structural standpoint, a rolling shutter door has far to many weak spots for me to consider it a sound idea for a safe house. You have each interlocking slat, then you have the rollers and guide rails, and then you have the portion where the guide rails attach to the structure. The larger door just increases the pressure which would be asserted to each of the weak points. If it were raised, as in, nothing would be able to ram it, then yeah it would be fine. I'm sure they have a more stronger one then this but u get the point. What an a** hat this guys was...

unfortunately, the largest door on that house will just about stop a smart car... that's about it.