JackDaWack

certain states have defined the magazine as being part of the weapon. NJ does not! In order for the gun to be considered loaded it must have a round physically inside it. I personally use a carry bag for ammo which fits inside my bag where the guns are located.

I personally use Hoppe's lubricating oil and microfiber towels/q-tips for the final coat after cleaning. My guns sit in a safe with moisture capturing pouches, but u dont really need them if you store them in a temp controlled room well lubed. If your not using them then a healthy coating of lube should be on every part of the gun/s including the inside of the barrels. Make sure you use gun lube tho, any lube will protect the gun, but not every lube will allow it run correctly/ protect it in use. I use wd-40 after i use the gun to keep the crap from caking up in the barrel before i get to clean it thoroughly, i would never use it for protection/cleaning/lubrication tho, there is much better stuff out there for that. I also use the otis 085 multi-purpose solvent/lube to clean the gun. I purchased an Otis kit when i found one for like 1/2 off and it came with everything i would ever need to clean a gun, the best tools i found are the tiny scraper tools that allow you to really dig the grime out of the rails and other hard to clean spots. I prefer extremely clean guns but that's just me. Some guys wont bother with the finer detailing. You could make the process extremely quick or very long.

It's not that i find your tool for the job to be overkill(rifle), its just that your primary concern should be the safety of others, not just your own. Being aware of what is behind your target is just one of many important things you should be considering before pulling the trigger. No one wins when the bad guy is dead and your neighbor is killed from a stray bullet. Maybe unlikely circumstance, but even if a bullet hits a neighbors house they could sue the bajesus out of you. This is something that seriously poses a problem for houses located in close proximity to each other. If you lived out in the sticks then i would agree that over penetration wont really matter, because your aware that nothing is behind your target. But if you live in an urban town, city, or apartment u should be very concerned with Over penetration.

Didn't the head guy at the ATF resign and was replaced by one of Obama's Anti's? Along with Obama's executive orders which impact large purchases near the border? All while completely ignoring OP F&F.

If you think about the physics and characteristics of a cartridge a number of things could be considered, a loose cartridge is different then a packed cartridge. If the cartridge is upside down or right side up. Either way once the two separate there is no more force, so one could say a HG cartridge would be different then a rifle which burns longer. My overall guess would be that in any scenario you get all the flash and bang, but no real force behind the projectile, distance is not the issue as one could fall 3 feet or one could be projected 100, but the overall speed would be fairly low as there is a tremendous amount of initial extremely quick force with no direction or stabilization.

I remember a couple years ago, 911 got a call of a bunch of guys at a bar OCing, the operator basically talked the woman through what was going on and explained that it was legal, she asked follow up questions like, are the guys doing anything wrong, she explained the guys were eating dinner and hanging out... they still dispatched an officer to check it out. This was in AZ too if i remember correctly. To me that doesn't necessarily warrant an officer to check out the guys carrying, the woman just couldn't believe what they were doing was legal. On the flip side, you get a caller freaking out about a guy in the neighborhood with a gun... I would expect the police to exercise some kinda discretion in the manner in which they respond to calls especially when complaints are legal. Basically, if its legal to OC, the police should not respond unless the person complaining generally feels like the person OCing is being threatening, samething with an officer noticing someone on the street OCing. Im all for the police responding to complaints, but i also don't want them to waste time on nothing. If a guy is acting suspicious while OCing then i see no reason not to respond, but there needs to be a level of respect between both OCer's and police where people shouldn't have to worry about encounter police just because they are exercising their rights.

I usually get the federal xm193 1k cases when i can find them for around 300 shipped.

Not sure why safety isn't your number one concern... when you decide safety comes second you become the bad guy.

Did you try and change the batteries? i know the laser drains power.

It's not the cop approaching someone which is the issue, its how its handled from there. If the guy said excuse me i don't have time right now and kept walking, the issue becomes whether the officer chooses to acknowledge your rights and allows you to leave. This guy choose to comply, he could have refused and kept walking, would have been interesting to see how that would have turned out. If officers always acted like this and are informed, people wouldn't mind being cooperative and wouldn't fear being wrongfully arrested. An officer can approach anyone at anytime on the street, just like a stranger can, but the mentality he speaks of is that we shouldn't have to even deal with being approach just because you have a firearm. Think of it like passing the same bum on the street every day who haggles you for change, something very simple if done enough can quickly turn into harassment.

I was thinking exactly the same thing...

Wow that's really hard to beat for around $900.

It's going to be a SHTF rifle, no real purpose, or should i say multi-purpose. I do agree, you could get more for the money. A NJ legal scar is def. another good option, they had one in stock too, didnt handle it tho.

What ever it is, it's better then nothing.. and +1 to the cop, nothing says they can't approach you on the street, the officer didn't demand anything, and was probably investigating an complaint. If he let the guy go with no ID i'm guessing he's not the kind to just stop someone because he has a pistol holstered. Since the guy had a video camera and no id i'm guessing he was in fact trying to make a statement and gain there attention. I actually think once the cop realized he was being filmed he knew what was going on and foiled the guys plan.

Were you not defending the officers standing around the guy waiting for him to cease being a threat? Or would you have been more proactive in a situation like that? considering everyone believed he had a gun, and could have possibly shot off more rounds. Maybe i miss read your response, and not entirely directed at you, but i have herd on here numerous times that priority of going home at the end of the day supersedes all else. And the last thing i want to do is offend someone who is willing to sacrifice for their community, maybe i should have been less general in my statement.

Nothing in there suggested anything about your opinion on the right to protect yourself, maybe i was just over emphasizing the fact. You said "You sleep well at night because good people are willing to watch in the night and protect your @#$." I was merely commenting on the statement.

My friend is looking into getting an LWRC he got his hand on in the store the other day. The price was a little steep, at 2,300 bucks, but he loved it compared to the colts that were there. I was wondering if anyone has one and what their opinions on them are. Im not sure of the exact model but it looked like this Nj compliant of course. I told him he could probably shave a few hundred bucks by buying an RRA lower with 2-stage trigger, but he liked the OD green so much he just wants to buy the complete rifle. I couldn't believe how light this rifle was, if he gets it im gonna be one jealos sob.

The only thing that makes me sleep well at night is the 9mm under my pillow. If you sleep well at night because you say good people are out there protecting you...then you sir are extremely naive. Based on the testimony of the LEO on this forum it's more important for them to go home at the end of the day then to make sure you are safe and protected. I dont necessarily disagree with that notion, hell no one wants to die, especially when you have people who rely on your well being, i just wish the people had a better way to protect themselves. The fact of the matter remains, people who hold themselves to higher standards will always put others before themselves.

People have there FPID's with MJ misdemeanor possession charges. It may be federal drug charges, dunno tho.

The mental health form is not for physical health or medications used for physical health. It's purely circumstantial to claim whether someone has the strength to operate a firearm safely, take cancer for instance. Many cancer patients undergo a series of treatments and overall health changes dramatically. There could be a period of treatment where the patient is very weak, and further down the line the patient restores most strength. There not bed ridden for the entire treatment. If you have an ID card to possess MJ then you are within the law, i see no legal grounds for a denial other then the ability to safely operate a firearm.

Nailed it with the pharmaceutical companies, mainly their lobby boys in DC. It's not too hard to decipher this when you have people making outrageous claims how MMJ has no benefits when there are millions of cancer patients who testify every year coupled with doctors who see it work. As for gun rights, not sure how that would turn out. Since this is NJ i can see them going either way with it, i remember recently a state tried to revoke a woman's carry permit because she used MMJ, not sure what the out come was. Also, if it is a legal form of medication are you required by anyone to disclaim if your using it? As long as it is not a federal document if your a legal user i don't see how someone can ask you to tell them what medications your using, would seem like some sort of violation of privacy. Then again this is NJ anything could happen, but they will probably end up changing things as people complain or get denied, for better or worse.

what did he sign and pay 16 dollars for?

Good info, good video too, im gonna have to take a look at their uploads.

I would have Shat a brick house. Luckily nothing escalated, the video looked like it was going to turn for the worse at first.

That's a valid argument. But unless they specifically see the perp ditch the weapon or some how connect it to the perp using dna prints or ballistics how can they say for sure they ditched it and not someone else? Maybe im just playing devils advocate here, but instead of just finding a weapon at the crime scene they now have to prove with out reasonable doubt that the gun recovered was the gun used by the perp. I'm sure it also depends on your defense attorney. At this point if they find residue on the guys hands that probably all they will need. The biggest issue here is going to be all the hype that the guy was unarmed, you have a lot of witnesses who did not see the gun, and some who did, unfortunately a defense attorney will pick every person who said they didn't see one. Then the prosecution will have to bank on the testimony of yet another criminal who stole the weapon, and they will also have to explain the fact that this guy was able to just pick it up and walk away with it, with 5 cops not 15 feet away. It just seems like a cluster F*ck to me.