JackDaWack

I'm not sure why you're quoting a LOP question. Regardless, the diagram is fine... anyone with a brain can figure out what its outlining. Pin and and weld the damn thing if its under 26" OAL. People just routinely need to make this harder than it is... a) make sure its over 26" b) use a brace that is found in an ATF letter head, or even the SBA3 and SBA4 braces don't let you use position 6 for max LOP. Sooo many non issues...

What tax refund? I've owed money every year since they passed the new tax law. I love how Donnie gets to keep his corporate tax breaks on losses, but I can't claim over 10k in actual taxes paid.

If you have no batteries how do you have a "white light". Most LPVO models that use batteries don't need them, they just illuminate the reticle in low light. So in essence, they all work well with out illumination, but they work MUCH better with it in low light. It also aides in helping you work the reticle onto target faster. Just like an RDS. You have the CREDO, and VCOG, and accupoint which are some of the most durable LPVO out there.

Keeping an ATF letter secret accomplishes absolutely nothing. Especially if its information related to them selling what the ATF considered an illegal product. That is why this was released The letters which come from regional offices are in a way legal documents, and describe how the ATF applies the law. It informs dealers of firearms and customers, and allows them to make legal decisions. What we have here, is most likely an opinion from field agents, as before, who are attempting to make up bullshit without construction of legally binding opinions that we see in these letters. Maybe that's why they aren't saying anymore. So maybe some asshat wrote them an email about LOP, as part of their decision, AFAIK, if its not in an ATF letter head opinion.. it means absolutely nothing. So maybe they had a back and forth with the ATF after the letter was received... but the letter itself should have any and all explanations. No ones is giving a partial answer. I simply said LOP has never been a measurement the ATF has outlined in an official opinion to anyone.

Have you read the ATF letter?? I posted the link in another thread about the honey Badger and the ATF letter. They did not mention LOP once in the entire letter. The ATF simply stated the brace was designed to be a stock, they didnt elelaborate a single detail beyond that.

And which Republicans challenged trumps "ruling" on bump stocks? Why won't anyone touch this subject with a 10 foot pole?

The EPA can suck a fat one. My friend in HS had one from 2003, lots of fun and extremely fast. Didn't take much to turn one into a rocket ship.

Can you identify where a statement has been made that LOP is considered when determining the legality of a brace? I have seen it discussed on a number of gun forums dating back years, but no ATF letter outlines such restrictions. The latest ATF ruling calls braces accessories, to be removed prior to any examinations. I would be weary of fixing one permanently to a reciever extension past the LOP suggested, becuase its no longer removable. But, LOP is not applicable to a brace, there is no LOP. Once you start modifying things you start getting into uncharted water.

There is going to be a minimum price associated, and probably a by foot charge after a certain depth, and then on top of that any charges for difficult drilling conditions. I'd expect just to drill mine probably cost double, $12000 at 40 dollars a foot. Its probably a good idea to find out first if the ground water is even worthwhile. But yeah, it would take a really long time to recoup any money from the switch. Its not like the water is free at that point. Wells use a substantial amount of power. So maybe you cut the bill in half.

Your well pump is most likely 110v but runs on 120v..

I have a well, but never had to put one in. My guess is at least 6k just to drill it and run the line into your house. From there you need a pressure tank and relay, so add money for the internal plumbing and electrical hook up. Probably another 1000 for the tank install and a few hundred for the electrical. If you need to treat the water, that's a whole nother can of worms which would be another 1k min. I'm at 950ft elevation and my well is 300 feet deep. YMMV. We have an 8 gallon pressure tank, iron filter and water softener. If I had to install it all new from scratch it would probably cost $15k if I had someone do all the work. I've never thought about it, but can you disconnect the service and put a well in, will the town let you?

I thought they phased lead out years ago, I couldn't find any on the market when I looked 2 or 3 years ago.. only massive steel weights now.

This "prevention" plan is literally the dumbest shit I've ever read, and doesn't even attempt to solve the underlying problems... guns have nothing to do with suicide, its simple a means.. not the cause. Stop trying to treat the symptoms and maybe we will get somewhere. Nearly every state has specific laws banning possession of firearms by individuals with mental deficiencies, maybe start enforcing that instead?

Not to mention primers and powder are cheap enough to stack it, and they last a very long time. You can then buy boolits which are also at normal prices today as you require.. This idea you need everything at once is silly, and there will never be an apples to apples comparison with being your own supply chain to purchasing a complete product.

Factory what? Cheap plinking? I load match grade bullets, at match level tolerances.. how much does that ammo cost on a normal day?

Most people, including myself, can see the benefits of shooting cheap plinking ammo. On the other hand, its not entirely comparable when the rounds you produce are match quality. Even a progressive press can put out better consistency than factory ammo. I've really taken to rifle loading this past year, its challenging and a little time consumer but the results are fantastic. I actually feel like I have a purpose when I go to the range other than burning a hole in my pocket.

If you want to start a thread, many of us can help with not just basic questions, but some more advanced topics as well. With a number of us reloading on here, we probably all have used a number of different products that make reloading a relatively easy task.

I'd rather spend my time reloading over hours spent bitching and complaing on the internet. Its a time consuming hobby like most others, there is an initial investment phase, and pay off phase. I started reloading at the age of 25, and I've already paid off those investments of you compare today's prices to what I've loaded in just the past 6 months. Almost all of my big purchases also came with rebates for free bullets. Both my presses came with 5 boxes of high end boolits. Thats 200 off, and each die set is an additional 20 bucks in bullets. Gotta love Hornady.. and its not like they are enticing you to buy bad products, there stuff works great.

I hope that they are just flexing their stupid muscles. At least it was a proprietary brace they made the ruling on... my hope is they don't continue on this path right not.. I would think they could have opinioned on something more universal if they wanted cast a larger net, but didn't.

To my surprise I had no idea it was cleaned when I bought it. I should have bought more.

Most braces are adjustable, this is dangerous because the letter is incredibly vague. They don't provide any reasoning other then the claim the brace is designed to be a stock. The link includes their response to the ATf letter essentially tearing it apart from a procedural POV. It would be nice if some 2a groups stepped up to help.

https://gunowners.org/na10072020/ Well, doesn't look good. Read it for yourself.

I grabbed 500 cases of military LC .308/7.62 for 40 bucks a month ago, they were also tumbled in media. 5.56 wasn't going for much cheaper since its in high demand.

A400, not even a comparison to the others mentioned. I should note, I have all 3. The a400 is a a very fine shotgun that he will never outgrow. The a300 gave me a shit ton of problems in cold wet weather, but otherwise ran fine. I ran it for a season, and replaced it the following year. I still have it as its got some nostalgic memories as my first season waterfowl hunting. It ran great at the range and busted clays all day long, so its still a good option for that purpose, and its roughly half the price. The a400 does hold more shells since its 3 1/2 capable. The a400 does have the recoil reduction system in the stock, it will short stroke with target loads if you aren't firm with it. I never had an issue but my brother who is less experienced had issues, just had to remind him to lean into it.

Exactly, I wouldnt use it.. or find a version that doesn't fire when folded.