JackDaWack

In NJ?

That makes zero sense... Suppressors are already legal at a federal level... They have zero authority to tell a state to legalize something without a SCOTUS ruling.

The Heller decision does not draw a line between firearm use, just wether they are in common use. The decision is specific to firearms tho, i believe that is the term used... not 'ARMS" There is no argument that they are not "arms", they are explicitly regulated through the NFA, which is by itself an admission they are Arms. The other problem is that they are not prohibited from owning or purchasing through the NFA....

Skb and pelican are top notch cases... I highly doubt this will have the same level of quality. Maybe it's comparable to Plano?

I believe tailgating is specific to the concert or event. A few years ago they stopped all tailgating but I think they allow it again... The place really got out of hand, the NJSP patrol the parking lot like Hawks now.

I don't know enough about either to formulate an opinion for or against the argument... Just that was the argument being made. That it wasn't about the constitutionality of the NFA, but whether it applied to an instate manufacturered product and sale. If Scotus walked away from the case then they must have either agreed it was covered by the commerce clause or they want NFA regulated regardless.

I dont find it a "stupid" defense. I do think its a save my own ass defense... In this case if there was no interstate commerce, the NFA should not apply. In fact, I believe Montana does exactly this very thing, and passed state laws outlining the federal governments lack of authority in intrastate commerce of NFA items. Here is Kansas own 2a protection act. http://www.kslegislature.org/li_2014/b2013_14/measures/documents/hb2199_00_0000.pdf Add to the fact the feds gave them probation... no jail time.

I doubt an NJ FFL would touch it. It cant be classified as a pistol, if it were over 26" with the ATF outlined features it could technically be transferred, but i still don't think they would.

I don't see it as flaunting in the face of the ATF, per say. They wrote the damn letters. I do agree that if enough attention is given, that the letters could change, and the ATF could flip again. or worse yet, get new legislation passed. I couldn't say about the other states. The issue here is that you need a few laws to align just right for it to fall into the legal category. definitions of rifle, pistol, assault rifles or sawed off, length requirements, banned accessories* I wouldn't, even with a letter from the NJSP, bring one even to a private range. The attention brought to this issues is counter productive.

Yeah, wtf? Like didn't he introduce the major gun laws that Christie vetoed, and then Murphy signed?

Realistically, that is what the ATF letters are for. One details: a pistol brace is not a stock Second: if it is over 26" oal, a vertical grip can be added and maintain non-nfa and is not classified as a pistol Maintain that the firearm was purchased that way, or built from receiver. ATF Letter on Stabilizing Braces and how they can be shouldered This article about adding VFGs to AR pistols contains the ATF letter outlining how to construct a non-NFA firearm on pages 2-3 This contains the NJSP letter to the FFLs detailing the legality of the 590 Shockwave and Tac 14. Nothing in NJ law contradicts any of this either. If it was never a rifle or shotgun, it cant be "sawed-off". and NJ's very definitions cannot consider it pistol or rifle. I try not to publicize where the actual loophole is here, because fuck em and let them figure out how to change the law.

I prefer if the NJSP dont release a letter on this. IMO it will bring too much attention to the legality of such a device. Good things go to die when people start asking the government if xyz is legal? I originally thought the same as you, and many people corrected me. When i picked up my last lower my FFL confirmed as well.

We had a thread about this almost a year ago. A receiver is transferred as a receiver, not a pistol, not a rifle not a Firearm or AOW. Im not advocating for breaking the law, in fact im saying follow it and build one. Hell, ask ANY FFL what they transfer a receiver as.

So build one... I'm sure people in the state already have. Until NJ changes the law, i believe a blank receiver can be used. The ATF letters really paved the way for this, and NJ's own stupid laws that clearly define pistols and rifles.

Times have changed. Kids are carrying real guns these days looking to hurt people.... There is some common sense to be used here.

In NJ a rifle as defined is designed to be fired from the shoulder, no? Would it qualify as a "firearm"?

I thought a rifle had to have a "stock"

First thing that came to mind was interstate commerce.... and while the case has a very valid point it wasnt going to effect the NFA.. maybe create a semi loophole for residents of states that make NFA items. The gun free school zone act was knocked down using the same method of argument, and then it was re-written and in full effect again.

I guess he doesnt have to worry about getting it dirty....

Enzo had the 64 Monza race cancelled because there was a good chance Farrari would lose, not sure what would hit his ego harder, losing the point series... or losing on his home turf in Italy. During this time period, Ferrari was a HUGE sore loser. Im hoping this movie doesn't overlook that fact, they tried a lot of sneaky tricks to beat Ford OFF the track, and it wasn't just ford.

A use a Crock-Pot for a lot of things.... But for ribs, I much prefer them smoked with a dry rub.

I fell asleep watching it, twice!!! i couldn't make it past the first 30 mins, and then the next 30 minutes...

U.S. SUPREME COURT DEFERS ACTION ON ANJRPC CARRY CASE May 28, 2019. Today, the United States Supreme Court took no action on ANJRPC’s challenge to New Jersey’s carry law in the Rogers v. Grewal case. That means one of two things: either the U.S. Supreme Court will relist the case for consideration at its next conference on May 30, or the Supreme Court will defer its decision on whether to take the appeal pending the outcome of another case. The Supreme Court’s intended course of action will become clearer as the matter unfolds. Please watch for additional ANJRPC alerts as the situation develops.

U.S. SUPREME COURT DEFERS ACTION ON ANJRPC CARRY CASE May 28, 2019. Today, the United States Supreme Court took no action on ANJRPC’s challenge to New Jersey’s carry law in the Rogers v. Grewal case. That means one of two things: either the U.S. Supreme Court will relist the case for consideration at its next conference on May 30, or the Supreme Court will defer its decision on whether to take the appeal pending the outcome of another case. The Supreme Court’s intended course of action will become clearer as the matter unfolds. Please watch for additional ANJRPC alerts as the situation develops.

I'm sure there are plenty of test cases already in this state.. they just don't go looking to prove a point.