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You got to love our legal system where it can take 6 months (soon to be more I imagine) for a single request by the judge to be fulfilled because all you have to do is not comply and instead just ask for extensions. How is the even allowed?

I used to play a weekly house game with friends when I was 18, but I'm guessing that isn't the type of poker you are talking about. Now that you mention it though, I really need to get to the casinos.

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What is that thing that guy said again about sacrificing liberty for safety. Oh yeah. It was that Ben Franklin guy. "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." So even if "gun control" was in the obtainment of safety, it still would be a bad idea, in both Franklin's and my opinion that is.

Then why in the world would you call it what he did? I have carried with an OWB holster that allows me to conceal or not depending on my clothing. But saying I was "discrete open carrying" doesn't make sense and is confusing. I don't get it. If what he is looking for is a nice, low profile, tight fitting, minimalist OWB holster, it looks like bladetech has something that fits that bill.

Discrete open carry? Sounds like "holster that does a terrible job of concealing" to me. Either you conceal carry, or you open carry. I have no idea what you are saying you want to do. However you do it, whatever is comfortable, that is up to you. I have no idea what you are trying to accomplish though.

That reminds me, I have been overseas for a week, I wonder what the status of one of my packages is...I hope they left it at the leasing office and not outside my door...because if it is the latter, I doubt I'll ever see it.

It is hard to word an example that I think is entirely bogus to begin with, in a meaningful manner...

Yeah see, you missed my entire point. The point I was getting at, and why I phrased it the way I did, was to try and avoid it being construed as transporting them in the process of moving. I was trying to give a scenario simply the opposite of what this thread is about. I guess I should have said, imagine you magically appeared in PA carrying a handgun in conformance with PA law. Then apply the rest of what I said. No matter though, it is :thsmiley_deadhorse: .

Now I don't even know who is talking about the wrong type of gun...

I appreciate the response. I think we are probably on pretty close to the same page now, even though you missed the point of my scenario. Is this a serious question, comment, or concern? Is there something rhetoric here that I am missing? In case you missed it, here it is again. I guess I don't understand your post, or your confusion. Read into things less, and read what they actually say more. I have a feeling if you do that you will understand it better. It is almost as if you are so convinced you were initially correct that you try and interpret things in a way to agree with your own reasoning even if that isn't the case...it happens.

Nobody is arguing that. And... Maybe it would help to look up that one as well.

Let me ask this. You used to live in TX. You take a year to tour Europe, and in the mean time, leave all your firearms/handguns at a friends house in PA. You return from your trip and move to NJ. A few weeks later you return to your friends house to bring your firearms (all NJ legal) to your new home in NJ. Can you legally do so? I ask because using the same argument as before, you cannot, and it is illegal. How can that be though? Your new house in NJ, is one of those exemptions where you can legally carry and possess a firearm. So you are going to an exempted location and are good right? Using your own argument, that is wrong. It would be illegal, because your friends house is NOT an exempted location. So according to NJ law you are not legal, even though your house is one of the exempted locations. However it also says you can only travel in between exempted locations. This is the exact same argument, but in reverse. Does it seem logical that FOPA wouldn't apply in this case? IMO, that doesn't make any sense. So what is different the other way around?

Very well stated. I however see it the first way, and here is why. I'll use nothing other than your words and what FOPA states. True. Well, you say it is because... Is that true? Let us see what FOPA actually says Ok. So it doesn't actually say that it applies to the state you can carry legally, it says place. So then... Exactly.

What's the deal with the zez arms barrel? Is it functional or purely cosmetic? Looks very interesting. Can't say I've seen anything like that before. Very cool.

Of course not, because that isn't how a bat works. Have you know a gun that was as easy to load, be aimed, and then shot as easy as slip and a fall while holding a knife? I am not sure I get your point. If your argument is that it is easy to accidentally point a loaded gun and shoot someone and hard to swing a bat at them, then shouldn't you actually be more worried about the person with the gun and not the gun itself? That person probably shouldn't own a bat or a knife either...

The main issue lefty's have (with a lot of firearms) is the manipulation of the controls (magazine release, safety/selector, and bolt/charging handle). Though I say issue, it is more just an annoyance. If you are going to be buying a new rifle, and you are a lefty, you might as well get/built something that is more suited and easier for you to use though right?

We are talking about AR's right? They have brass deflectors...

I'm with you on your perspective. Unfortunately it appears that there are some places that you have two choices. 1. Give in to the additional and possibly illegal 'requirements' of that PD in order to get your FPID/PP as quickly as possible. 2. Do your best to only do the things explicitly and legally required, and deal with the repercussions, which apparently can often be that the PD violates the law and you wait...where you don't have any practical recourse. I think we can all agree that having to put up with these shenanigans is a bunch of BS. The point is, how far are you willing to take it? It is indeed sad that even though you may be right, there is almost nothing you can do about it. Actually, it isn't just sad, it is totally ^#*@ed up!

Laws that make it clear that there cannot be laws restricting the right to bear arms. I agree with those.

So I'm watching this right now on AFN, and one doctor said "Anyone that has an arsenal of assault rifles is obviously paranoid", or something to that effect. Fortunately the other reasonable girl told her off.

Either you have bad luck or something is going on with the firearms you are using to shoot them. I just checked my spreadsheet, and have fired 4101 rounds of bulk 22. So far, 1 FTF with some Remington Golden Bullet, nothing else. That is 20-41x less than what you seem to be getting...

You are preaching to the choir mate! Where is that beating th....never mind, I found it. :thsmiley_deadhorse:

vladtepes, Why are you making it as if he is arguing with you? He isn't. He understands your point, and is just trying to illustrate a possible scenario and interpretation that he may or may not even agree with! I think you need to try and get passed what is logical, because we all know NJ laws are far from that!

I sense some confusion, which is understandable when the applicable laws are, well, stupid. So the quote below is the statues that apply. Please read and heed.