Dan

No, he made the statement, and I left it at that. There were a lot of people vying for his attention. The example was with handguns, and he did give the one exception to the rule which is the temporary transfer to a minor as I posted above. To me that indicates that it is the only exception. He even jokingly said that in a HD situation it is legal to temporarily xfer your HG to a minor for SD, but not your adult spouse. It would seem under our draconian gun laws, your life being in danger does not give you permission for temporary transfer. Of course, like most anything, it is up to the prosecutor to push the charges. That it is always a possibility in such situations I'd imagine the NJ prosecutor would not want on his/her record the imprisonment of a wife using her husbands HG in her own home to fend off some psycho killer.

6.5K in Old Bridge. I pay my own garbage/water/sewer. I'm afraid to think of adding onto the house for fear of the taxman's reassessment.

As long as it means OAL requirements, all you have to do is pin the brake on the M1A in order to turn it into a bullpup and allow it to grow a pistol grip.

Bob, I remember a discussion on this around the MSAR STG. I purchased one a few years ago, and the dealer said it was considered a "thumbhole" stock so I could have the flash-hider/threaded barrel. Someone either on this forum or somewhere else said they called the NJSP, and they said they consider it to be a "pistol grip". I don't have any references to draw back to, just my memory. Needless to say I have a model with a pinned brake (ugly one at that, i'd love to change it). The STG has the strap forward, covering the front of your hand, a bullpup with a strap on the back covering your thumb, who knows it could be a "thumbhole stock". I have a friend with a FS2K bullpup with this configuration. Like anything in NJ, it could open you up to having to "prove it in court" so to say. Last night Nappen said he had to give his expert opinion to a prosecutor in Bergan county explaining how a SKS (with fixed mag) is not an NJ defined "assault weapon". It is so obvious to all of us that an SKS does not fit the definition, but here we had a prosecutor about to press AWB charges on someone. That tells me it could happen with a bullpup where you are arguing that it has a thumbhole stock versus a pistol grip.

I was going to ask Evan Nappen this question last night at the NJ2AS meeting, but he beat me to it by speaking about it before I could even ask. He stated that under NJ law, it is considered an unlawful transfer for a wife to take possession of a HG belonging to her husband in their own home. He stated that the home is not a legally defined place where temporary transfers can take place between adults. He went on to mention that a minor could under 2C:58-6.1 temporarily take possession of a HG in their home as long as the criteria is met. 2C:58-6.1

I was at the NJ2AS meeting last night. They had Evan Nappen as a speaker. There were two questions around this scenario, mine and another gentleman's. The other gentleman asked if FOPA would protect a NJ resident while still in NJ transporting the HG to PA for CCW. Nappen indicated that he would use FOPA's safe passsage as a legal defense. I then specifically asked him what he feels origination and destination "place" is defined as in FOPA, and if that would be the NJ resident's "home", or does it apply to something broader as the "state" level. He essentially stated that we don't know, since there is no case law of FOPA being applied in this manner. In essence, we will not know until such a test case is tried, so it is up to each individual to interpret the law and follow it accordingly to their own risk appetite. The good news is at least FOPA could provide for some kind of defense, where without it, transporting a HG to PA for CCW would be a mandatory 3-5 max 10 years in prison if caught under NJ law. The bad news is, it is not a sure thing until a test case takes place setting the precedent.

Imaginary conversation post SOP: Applicant: "LEO, you are not following the SOP's regarding the permit process" LEO: "Oh yea? WHICH SOP's is that?" Applicant: "Uhm , I don't know its secret, but you have access to it" LEO: "If its secret , how do you know I'm not following it?" Applicant: "Because I called the NJSP and they kinda-sorta implied that the SOP's state that the NJ statutes have to be followed regarding the permit process" What I find hilarious, SOP's or not, all local PD's have to be following the NJ statutes. The real problem is there is no form of punishment or criminal charges that can be filed against the local PD's whom are breaking the law by demanding extraneous processes and paperwork from NJ firearm permit applicants. Without this, many of them will continue on their merry way.

Nice shooter you got there Bob, good luck with her!

What's next, no more Guns & Ammo magazines are allowed on planes because they have pictures of guns?

He is innocent until proven guilty. If it were a close friend of mine, I would give all the benefits of a doubt that I had in me until you have all the evidence laid out in front of you.. as in during the trial. Just in case this is all a screw up, and they pinned the wrong guy. It happens.

The regular stuff is worth a shot, but RainX also makes a specific "antifog" product. My link

The only lens I ever had that was antifog without putting on some kind of spray/wax/solution were "thermal" lenses. They were double pane lenses with a gasket keeping the two lenses apart , creating an insulation layer. Otherwise, any other goggle/mask/glasses that I have purshased that claimed "anti-fog" were all bunk, some worked for awhile, then eventually their ability faded. I recommend doing an interweb search for anti-fog wipe and waxes specifically designed for the purpose. Use it on your favorite shooting glasses. I believe RainX makes some products that might be available at a local autoparts store. Apply to both the outer and inner lens. Stay away from stuff made for SCUBA, as they usually require a few water rinse cycles, and are designed to work while a little damp. They would still work even if you buff them dry, but usually not optimally.

I think the idea is now that incandescent are on the out, manufacturers will focus efforts on LED and other technologies. Without govt regulation forcing incandescent out, bulb makers would continue making them b/c they are so cheap. The only way consumers change their habits are via regulation or monetary incentives. You can only get so many people on the "save the earth" conservation bandwagon. Add that to the only other incentive and that is raising the price of electricity astronomically. Nobody wants that either! I'm going to stock up on some incandescents to get me over the hump. I envision 6mos-1 year after the "ban" , LED bulbs will have hit the right performance and cost points. You can already see the LED wars are on. You have GE and Sylvania up against a slew of Chinese makers (even though the GE and Sylvania bulbs are probably made in China anyway!). My local Lowes has tons of LED bulbs in lots of styles, though still prohibitively expensive, but dropping.

Very interesting. I've always wanted to get out to Centralia for exploration. Abandoned places have always fascinated me. Thanks for the photos.

I think I'm going to try a water/Ballistol mixture for ultrasonic cleaning. I use this for flushing guns after shooting corrosive. Since ballistol emulsifies with water, it should protect from rust while offering some cleaning capabilities.

I will have to purchase some "heatballs" This is rather annoying. I have dimmers on practically every lightswitch in my home. CFL's that dim are very expensive, and act strangely. LED's are an option for me, and I have one in my house now as a pilot on a dimmer. It is working well but costs $45. Will the gooberment cut me a check for the $1100 or so it will cost me to retrofit everything to LEDs?

Came out excellent. What type of cleaning solution did you use? Harbor freight has a few smaller inexpensive ultrasonic units. I just bought one for $40. I'm sure not as good as the big commercial units, but they might work. I haven't used it for gun parts yet but will do when I get a chance. Maybe after this weekend as I hope to dirty up a gun or two.

Yup, I snatched up some good deals on 357sig and usually jump on them when I see them come up. It is my HD defense round as well. For the purposes of my future Elite purchase, I'll problably stick with 9mm, as that is the other HG round I use. Nothing currently in .40, so won't be going down that path.

I know Bob, I just can't help myself. Its an addiction

Good info , thanks autox. I think I'll be keeping an eye out for a used 226 or 229 elite in SS, or maybe the nickel finish that you speak of. I currently have two HG's in 357sig, and I agree it is a fun round! Little pricey but for how much I shoot pistols its fine with me.

The wording in FOPA is "place" and this is what is causing all the hub-bub. Its all about definitions now. Is a "place" specific like your home, county, etc at the start of your journey? Or is it referring to the state level? Does FOPA protect you once you leave your property, or once you leave your state? That is the whole argument here. If FOPA was as granular as to refer to "place" as being precisely where you are standing with your gun at the start of your journey, it could be used to circumvent intra-state laws as well. For example, if a large city in your state bans handguns without a special city permit, and state law has no provisions to allow you to bring your handgun through the city even if you are legal everywhere else in the state with it, FOPA could be used to circumvent this law. After all, you are taking your gun from one place in the state to another place in the same state both "places" where you are legal to posses and carry. From Vlad's post: I'm reading here that the gun must be legally carried (transported) "during the transportation" "where he begins" and "where he ends". If FOPA protects at the start of the journey being a "place" as in your home here in NJ, then what is defined as "during transportation" "where he begins"? The "during transportation" phase must stop once you hit the street for FOPA to protect you while you are still in NJ, as transporting a HG off your property to go to PA for CCW does not fall under transport exemptions as we all know.

It will be 9mm or .357 sig. 9mm if I go Elite as it seems they dont offer 357sig in Elite. Wierd

Thanks for the offer Pizzabob and Jimmy. Bob, I won't really be near Shongum this weekend but thanks. Jimmy, let me know if you decide to go to CJ this weekend with your 226, I haven't gone in awhile and would be a good excuse to shoot stuff. I'm surprised to hear the p228 has such high raves, I thought it was just a p229 sold to the military. I guess there is something else going on in there? I really wanted the stainless finish look for bling value, so the p228 is kinda out for me. Now I'm between a 229 or 226 elite/non-elite with SRT. Sounds like it comes down to the beavertail. I have held the 229 in a shop a while back, and from what I remember I really liked how it sat in my hand. Sounds like the G10 grips would be for me. I have a few knives with G10 handles and I like how the material feels. Though thats putting the horse before the cart ehe?

I'm listening here. Looks like I'm better off with a used good condition gun to ease the wallet. I'm down with, though I am nervous with buying online without seeing the gun's condition beyond photos. Options are for a regular 229 or 226 and having the SRT installed aftermarket, or going new or used Elite (for the extra bling and options). Now, the 229 versus the 226, obviously the 229 is smaller, any experience with it over the 226?

I'm torn with AR piston rifles as well. Pro's are that you can use most any aftermarket parts for AR's in the lower such as stocks, grips, and FCG's, and of course cleaner action area operation. Not to mention coolness factor. Con's are the the upper assembly (in whole system upper retrofits) is entirely custom to the company that built. As in what DevsAdvocate says above, parts in the future could be an issue if that company folds or they stop making the rifle line. This is my only real concern, as it seems from what I have read up on the subject, most reputable company's have eliminated any mechanical/design issues that cropped up in early retrofits.