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I'm sure you knew that, i was just pointing out that it is the only way to get an upper with a pinned comp from BCM was to go for the 14.5" model.

It is definitely glamorous to think about how a well armed US population would make invading our mainland very difficult, but the bottom line is without organization and proper training, it would be a mere annoyance to a well trained professional military. If you take a look at history in the area of resistance/insurgency fighters, their challenges were almost never a lack of weapons , or their ability to procure those weapons. On top of this, I'm sure there are many enemies out there that would not hesitate to use mass punishment against areas where civilians are using their personal arms to inflict damage. The use of mass reprisals, such as killing all men and boys over the age of 16 in entire towns/population centers has been used before.

If you go with a BCM 14.5 middy, it comes with a comp welded on as it is needed so it is not a SBR. Otherwise, BCM does not offer the welding service for other rifle lengths.

Japan and Germany had no interest in invading the US during WW2. They were both playing the game of containment. The US population at the time had no appetite for war, and prior to Pearl Harbor had an undertone of neutrality and isolationism (despite this we have been contributing to the war under the lend-lease program). Japan's attack was purely in their eyes to break our Pacific naval assets back , so we don't interfere with their invasions in the Pacific/southeast asia. They did not think we could rebuild, and become a serious threat, nor did they think we would want to. They had a choice... continue their invasions in the pacific, and hope that the US didn't get involved or butt in. Or per-emptively strike down our Navy, and force us so that we couldn't get involved. They then calculated it would take a long long time for us to get our Navy back into fighting shape. By then they figured they would have taken over most of the Pacific, China, Southeast Asia, even Australia and would have been reaping in the benefits of raw materials to become even stronger. They were wrong... They commenced the attack even when they knew our aircraft carriers weren't in Pearl Harbor, and they didn't anticipate 1) How the attack would polarize the US population to support war, 2) the power of aircraft carriers (battleships were still thought to be the end-all weapon), 3) how quickly we could recover.

The lack of court docs, detailed charges, etc is frustrating. As others said, I'd like to know much more about this. I guess we'll find out soon.

Someone forgot to hand an envelope to the right person....

I'm not a huffpost kind of guy, but this article has some good points.. Regarding the military style ninja outfit: SWAT team deployment rates, this goes to 2001, I wish it had up to current. Is it really 'getting that bad' out there. If the SWAT deployment rates follow violent and serious crime rates, we're really going down the tubes.. There is more than wrong address home invasions by SWAT teams, there is drastic misuse as well.

Perhaps a BCM lightweight? This guys review towards the bottom says his was 1.5-2MOA when new, and around 3-4 MOA now after using it quite a bit (though he says many rounds , he doesn't indicate how many..). My link I have no direct experience with their lightweight profile barrels, just throwing it out there...

I agree with you on the idea that no matter what you do, with the 'eye of sauron' (lovin' that analogy) down on any NJ gun owner, they can certainly screw up your life with our ambiguous laws. I just strive to stay within the lines to at least give myself a fighting chance at not loosing my right to own a gun because some punk decides falsify some BS accusations and bring LE into the picture for a looksey (search warrant). I can't agree with the "keeping your nose clean" logic. I've heard the whole "just don't draw LE's attention and you'll be fine" line before, even from a FFL dealer looking to sell me a .22 SA rifle with a unpinned flash hider and pistol grip. "They only use the AW laws against people that are 'real' criminals in order to tack on extra time in jail". No thanks, I don't subscribe to that newsletter.

I wouldn't have a non-pinned collapsible AR stock installed on a pump shotgun if I also owned an AR. You are still in possession/control of parts that can build a NJ defined "AW" (i hate that name). The law does not stipulate that a part won't count if it is installed on a different gun that is legal to have it on. I would make sure to get a collapsible stock for the shotty that does not fit on an AR.

/agree, all about the location. Personally I feel a different address constitutes sufficient separation of the parts. Of course, I'm not a lawyer, and anything to do with guns in NJ is "at your own peril".

More specifically, don't have all the parts together in one place. If the rest of your rifle is at your house, leave it there, and have the unpinned stock shipped to a friends, and do the work there before bringing it home pinned to install on the rest of your rifle. Think of your gun as a collection of parts as it refers to the evil feature list.

As Krdshrk said, you can put it anywhere on the freefloat rail. I have a DD LR also, and I have a poly sight right above where the gas block is under the rail. I put my hand near that all day long and it never gets hot enough to even hurt a little. Your poly sight is fine. Only time you have to worry is if you are using a gas block with a rail machined into it, where you mount the sight directly on the block...

Just make sure you don't have all the parts that would facilitate putting together an as-NJ-defined "AW". For instance, you can remove the pistol grip, keep it at a friends house until you are finished pinning the stock. I typically have the stock shipped to an alternate location, then take my drill, roll pin, hammer, punch, and epoxy over there to complete it before taking it home. Wonderful NJ.... 10 years in the slammer because your stock adjusts a few inches. Hurts my brain every time I think about it.

Good job, you used a nice selection of parts there. Just curious , what heat are you worried about with the front sight? That DD rail free-floats away from the gasblock.

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Wow, good thinking on the cop's part. Broken finger over a gut full of lead is a good choice. Attempted murder, drugs+ gun charges, he'll be put away for a loooong time.

last time i checked it was mischeif/trick or treating nights, not murder/home invasion night

Patriot Act - I agree with the purpose of the Act; however, I do not agree with the lack of checks and balances for it to be misused. If there is a potential for misuse, there is a high likelihood that it will happen. Couple this with the secrecy behind how it is used is a dangerous recipe. Good info here that saves me from typing it out. Unfair election practices - I am by not means an expert and am unsure of the best approach for Presidential elections, but I do know enough about the electoral college to know that the system needs to be changed or tweaked. This article explains reasons behind keeping and changing the current system. I am most concerned with the last two or three paragraphs. It is a complex issue, and one that will take a sophisticated solution. Militarization of the Police - I'm all for having our LE well equipped to handle the threats they encounter. I'm all for LE having AR carbines in their trunks just in case for instance. What I am against is no-knock/quick knock type raids with warrants obtained under sketchy circumstances. There also has to be justification when using SWAT type teams for these types of things, such as good reason to suspect dangerous armed criminals are present. A tip that someone is dealing pot from their home is not enough to justify sending in a fully equipped SWAT team for instance. This does not only happen in high crime areas as I'm sure you can remember this example.

NJ won't buy that it is not a rifle nor a pistol being it is "designed to be fired with two hands because of the forward grip" hence not a pistol, and will classify this as a pistol due to the barrel length and lack of a stock. Well over the NJ weight limit for a pistol , so a no go. Federal law looks at AR lowers as AOW's , but NJ views them as rifles for instance.. they want to see one or the other.

PA is actually a very friendly state to do business in. The permit from them would cost $500 per year, to NJ's $10,000 per year. You have all the skills we would need, but at this point we're just getting off the ground. Will keep you in mind if this thing takes off and we do open that PA office.

Gradual erosion of our rights - For instance the "Patriot Act" Circumventing checks and balances, power creep - Rule by decree "executive orders", rule by obfuscation via agency "regulations" (like the BATF's ability to deem guns and ammo not "sporting" and banning their importation).. Just do a search for the word "sporting" on this page, and see how many lines you find giving the BATF's Director the red pen ability to do what he pleases. Unfair election practices - just read up on the Electoral College. Also, the 2 party system is in decline in the US, people want to vote for who they like regardless of their party affiliations. We should be looking at proportional voting systems. Fear of incarceration - There are so many state and federal laws on the books that the govt at any time could most likely incarcerate or put into legal trouble a large portion of our population at any time if they put the energy into it. From tax laws down to your mag holding 1 bullet too many. Militarization of the police - Perceived "us v. them" mentality. Military style raids , especially botched ones. Bureaucracy - It's is at an all time high. Me and some friends are working on starting a company investing in the importation a certain type of liquor. Apparently this takes jumping through multiple federal and state hoops. Believe it or not, the Federal part is easiest (still no walk in the park), with the PRNJ making it near impossible trying to demand we pay $30,000 in fees. The Federal permits and licenses are FREE. We have to explore creative ways to avoid doing business in NJ even though we live here. We've been told to open the company in other states if we could. No wonder companies are racing to get out of our state.

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Sad and pathetic. Nothing more than government abuse under guise of law. Could happen in NJ just as easily.