Dan

When this topic came up once before, I hypothesized this as well. If the husbands gun was sitting there in the safe, and the wife opened the safe and picked it up herself... technically the husband did not "transfer" the gun to the wife... she took possession of it, and she is legally able to posses the gun in her home. One can take this logic further, and lets say you meet me in a parking lot of some industrial park (not a place listed in temporary transfer exemptions) with a long gun. You are using the exemption that if you have and FID, you are permitted to posses the long gun even when not going to a range, etc. You now hand the rifle to me, lets say it is still in the case unloaded. Since I have an FID also, I technically am permitted to be in posession of the long gun as well. The problem is you transferred it to me... and technically you should have had me fill out a COE and checked my FID/ID, etc before transferring it to me. Now lets say you open the trunk, and the rifle is sitting there in the case. You now walk away. I then pick up the rifle. Again, I am legal to posses the rifle (I have my FID), but just because you walked away and I picked it up by myself, does that mean an illegal transfer didn't take place? There was no COE filled out, and no checking of FID/ID, etc. on another note, I do realize these conditions are so far fetched and 99.999% of the time not going to be an issue for anyone, but I think it is enlightening to think these things through around our state's ludicrous gun laws. It just proves how ambiguous and confusing our laws truly are.

The same one as if I sold/gifted you a gun and didn't fill out a COE/ and checking FID/ID for a long gun and of course add a Pistol Permit if it was a HG. If its not under temporary transfer exemptions, you need to do those things before transferring a gun to someone else. That's my interpretation, wrong or right as it may be....

I think the zombies are eating victims now because they need energy to continue on. Perhaps this is the 2nd phase of the outbreak. The initial phase, the virus wants to spread as quickly as possible, hence the "bite and release" phase of spreading. Now that the zombies have been re-animated for quite awhile, the zombie body still requires energy to continue operating... and now they are in "eat everything" mode. The virus is not as concerned about replicating, and more on survival.

I totally heard about this troll that totally trolled on a forums , serious

From my knowledge, It didn't set any precedent, just that the jury in that situation chose to take the defense's story over the prosecutor's around what is defined as a "collapsible stock". The judge didn't write an opinion on the law as was the case for the Norinco AK look-alike case where the judge threw the case out due to the NJ law being unconstitutionally vague. It was sorta jury nullification, similar as in how the jury in NYC came up with a not guilty for illegal HG possession for that Florida guy that was caught with a loaded HG in his glovebox. He was blatantly guilty.

As others said, it is all about the transfer. The spouse holding the gun in the house is perfectly legal, as she is covered under possession exemptions, so she can't be charged with illegal posession. Now the act of her taking possession (the actual disposition or transfer) from the husband to the wife is what is illegal (unless she has an FID and proper forms were filled out, COE, Pistol PP) under our laws since the "transfer" took place inside NJ. This is especially important when it comes to HG's since they are "voluntarily registered" whenever you use a Pistol PP in NJ. A simple check on the HG will show it being registered to the husband, in which the question can come up to how did the wife take possession (transfer) in the first place. They will know it was not inherited by her, and that she did not move into NJ with it (only two ways she can come into possession of a HG in NJ without using a Pistol PP). Bingo, illegal transfer as your home is not considered a valid location for temporary transfers according to NJ law. Sure it is highly unlikely this would ever be enforced, but the wording of the law is such that it could be.

One of the other posted made a good point as well... using a longgun for HD requires the use of two hands to use it effectively. You need to free up a hand to open doors and hold your flashlight (assume the badguys cut the power and phone lines of course). I suppose if your plan is to barricade in the bedroom in a defensive position, it would work well. If you need to leave the room and protect family , I feel a longgun becomes a liability. Just my opinion. You can get a decent HG for a little more money over a shotgun. You don't have to spend a fortune on a HG. Even going for a good used HG would suffice. Add in a $100 for a Gunvault and you have a quick, safe, and easy way to access it.

I agree with others, keep it loaded, empty chamber. One quick rack and you are ready to defend yourself and your family. Personally I'm not with the whole key thing. If you are going to do that, make sure you practice getting at the shotgun quickly with your flashlight and key. maybe set the alarm for 3:30am and use that as your "go get shotgun" exercise a few nights a month until it becomes a memory reflex. My BR HD gun is a HG in a Gunvault Mini. The little electronically controlled lockboxes that uses finger-push input to open. It is all tactile, and you do not need any lights to use it, of course provided you can get your hand on the safe... like being right on your bedstand. Check it out.

To manufacture a firearm in the US federally speaking for sale (other than personal use) , as that is your plan in "federal waters" ... you will need an FFL. I'm pretty sure they require a good ole' dry land address to be listed for the premises where the firearms will be manufactured as part of the license application. GPS coordinates to some point in US territorial waters would most likely not suffice. Regardless, I give you applause for creative thinking!

Nice looking rifle. I like that barrel milling design. You sure went all out and built this puppy from scratch. Many folks including myself buy an assembled upper and have someone pin/weld the brake on for us. Big kudos on doing it all yourself. You have me wanting to get a flux welder now, though being that I can barley solder anything, I'm betting I would cause some kind of global catastrophe with one... =@

Pretty scarey that anyone can file for a RO against anybody and have their guns taken away. There should be some kind of punishment for abusing this legal mechanism if during the initial temp to permanent judicial review it is deemed that the accuser was completely out of line. As others said, I'd get a lawyer who is skilled in these matters. If I did have to turn in my guns. I would get gallon of the stinkiest cosmoline-type protective grease I could find and lather them up with a quarter inch thick coating of the stuff and wrap it up with cloth or wax paper before turning them in. I'm sure the processor won't want to remove that crap and will place them into whatever storage they have without removing any of the cloth/paper besides what is needed to read the serial #.

Thanks for the writeup Bob! As you know I am definitely interested in trying IDPA as a way to get my feet wet. I have the holster, mag, and pouches (purchased with your help a few months ago) all ready to go. Now I just have to make the commitment the next time a session is available!

You can carry in any manner you wish on your own property, you can't be charged for unlawful possession of a gun unless you are a prohibited person. Of course you have to follow local ordinances around discharge of firearms. Also, bear in mind this does not give you immunity from LE harassment. NJ is one of the most gun unfriendly states there is.. as you know. If someone calls the police that they feel threatened by you, or even makes up something saying that you pointed your weapon in their direction, that is a aggravated assault charge waiting to happen. Expect that that local govt will expend LE and Judicial resources to try to make something stick even if they have a very thin case; thereby, ruining your year and bank account trying to prove that you are innocent. Of course this all depends on where in NJ you live, along with the local govt and LE climate.

I looked into this in the past. What I discovered is that barrel length does not inherently affect accuracy. You may be able to shoot a longer barrel more accurately due to factors like balance, weight, handling, etc. As you stated, it is all about velocity, so a shorter barrel length will effectively reduce the practical operating range of the rifle through effects like bullet drop and terminal energy. For 100 yards I'd care more about bullet weight and proper twist rate for it. I couldn't tell you what the max reasonable range is, as that is half subjective and half science. Subjective is what you feel the terminal velocity/energy should be, science being the max range until the bullet becomes a mortar and starts tumbling.

Don't forget to research FCG's. They are not created equal by any means. I have the Geissele SSA-E (2 stage, lightened pull) in my SPR type and a SD3G (single stage super short pull) on my multipurpose AR. They cost some bucks, but I'm now so spoiled that I can't do an AR "assembly" without one any longer. I'm sure there are other quality FCG's out there that are well worth it also, but these are the ones that I have experience with.

Trooper has some guts and strong ethics, +100 to her.

High temp epoxy putty and some high temp paint or gun paint product will do the trick, as others have pointed out as well.

Not sure what the OP was looking for here.. someone to actually say they or someone they know carry illegally?

I've tried so many bore cleaners from foams to homemade Ed's Red, along with unusual ones like Kroil. Testing cleaning/maintenance products is kinda like a sub-hobby for me. They all seem to do a do a decent job at removing carbon fouling. No matter what, a few passes of a brush either platic/synth or brass is almost always needed to do a really good job in my experience. My favorite currently is G96 bore solvent gel (smells bad), followed by G96 Gun Treatment CLP (smells great). I'm very impressed with the G96 products, even though their marketing style looks like something from the 70's. I use the Gun Treatment spray along on my brush and patches if I just need a light bore cleaning, it does a great job. The spray removes surface grime/fouling as well. The gel solvent I use once in awhile if I really need to go to town on it. Spray all the metal on the gun with the Gun Treatment, let it sit for a few minutes, then wipe down. It leaves behind a non greasy protective coating that smells good also. For stubborn deposits, I'll soak the bore with Kroil and let it sit for a few hours, brush with Kroil, then patch out. I'll then move to the G96 bore gel / Gun Treatment routine. For copper buildup, IMO nothing beats KG12 Copper Remover. Only need to do that once in awhile after you remove carbon build-up. Oh and, G96 is a New Jersey based company.

Glass of water, chapstick, LED tacticool light, Glock 31 w/.357 sig powrball ammo in a Mini Gunvault.

Take a look at Denny's Thunderbolt. I own one and am very pleased with it. I bought it after researching quite a bit, and I got tired of waiting for BCM BCG's to get back in stock. My link

Great writeup Raz-0! +1 OP: I wouldn't worry about the fancy coatings. For the most part I feel it's bling. For what they charge for many of those exotic coatings, you could nearly buy a whole new quality BCG. Not to underestimate bling here... if you want it, then go for it! Sometimes personalization and just plan old thinking that something is cool is well worth the $$$. Look for quality m-16 profile milspec BCG's.

Link isnt working Frank, try again!

That sign is only for the 1000 or so actual NJ CCW permit holders in the state. You know the few, the proud, the privileged.... not to mention well connected. edit: not including armed guard service permits, as they can only carry while working or going to or from work.

Nice rifle there Vassili!