alec.mc

Granted I do not understand the administration side of running the match, How does it lose uspsa money?

Wasnt citing our local matches, I could probably count all the people who constantly shoot revolver in this state on one hand, but more so talking about major matches, - sectionals, area matches, nationals, etc etc. The rule change will probably hardly effect us here on a local level, like you said - there is only 2 or 3 of us who show up for revolver division for the NJ matches. But the talk about killing off a whole division, - ugh - Everybody is entitled to feel how they want to feel about it, but even if you only have 1 guy showing up every match for revolver division, what harm does it do to keep it around? How do you justify putting a vote out to kill off the division?

Ha, true - I love Jerry, but he is just freakishly good at revolver alot of the classifiers are so far out of reach it's crazy.

We'll that's the point , yes - You CAN use any 6 shot revolver, is it * easier * to use major and moon clips, sure. Are you going to get crushed to last place is you're using magnums with speed loaders? maybe? maybe not - Josh Lentz ( Revo GM ) has repetitively won ICORE championships using a speed loader and beat out moon clipped gun, Like anything else it takes practice , and lots of it. People can be just as fast with speed loaders with enough practice. But you are right though too, Revolver Division is a narrow and seldom participated division, and I hope that 8 shot minor does bring in some new blood, I really do - But at the same time, I do not think it'd be " fair " if Timmy Newshooter showed up with a 627 and blew all the 625s out of the water because of the 2 shot advantage. - I just don't want my 625's to turn in to expensive paper weights. Hopefully i'm wrong, there have been some experiments by people running the same stage twice with both a 625 and 627 to see who comes out on top, some interesting results - but nothing conclusive. Another issue, the winner will be the one with the biggest wallet who can afford to own and bring both guns, and lug enough ammo for both to every match. Study the stages, and then decide what will be better to shoot, USPSA should be a level playing field of shooting ability and not *gaming* it before you even pull the trigger.

No, I saying the most popular gun is going to be replaced by a one and only gun ( the 627 ) --- ( if you are looking at a 8 shot array heavy stage ) The 625, while the most popular gun to use in USPSA, it not the only player in the field, you can be use just about any 6 shooter, moonclipped or speed loaders , major or minor , and still have a pretty level playing field.

I've been somewhat against the proposed 8 shot minor for revolver division, Personally I do not think it will bring new shooters, though who want to shoot revolver are already shooting it. Hopefully this doesnt turn out to be a killer to the 6 shots, I enjoy shooting major, and my 625. Alot of people argue that it works with single stack, ie : 8 shot major, 10 shot minor - same thing , right? - Wrong - With alot of stages with 8 shot array, followed by 8 shot array, followed by 8 shot array, there is no way that a 6 shooter could keep up with a standing reload at every position, minor scoring works with single stack because they still have the 8 shots in gun to shoot at the 8 shot max per array. Agreed, They are really limiting the available guns for competition, As far as I know Taurus is the only other manufacturer besides smith ( S&W 627 ) That is making 8 shots,but the taurus has a open comp on the front, which is not allowed and would be open division, So you are basically making the 627 the only gun for revolver division. With the 6 shot rule, sure the S&W 625 is the most popular gun to use, but it leaves pretty much every other revolver, minor or major , a fighting chance to play the game. The 627 ( 8 shot ) was already legal in other divisions to compete with , pretty much all except revolver division. I'll continue to use my 6 shot revolver for uspsa, the only saving grace is creative stage design - nobody likes stages were there is nothing but 4 paper targets followed by 4 papers targets, etc. A little creativity and options on stage break down will really keep a level playing field.

Really ? http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/classifieds/item/1177-mosin-nagant-m44-w-220-rds-of-ammo/

Email Matt? I recall getting an email a few days ago regarding stage design submittals

Stage 6 was a blast, Hopefully we see it again. Match ran decent enough, we had a big crowd and there looked to be a ton of new shooters. Howard, Knockdown Steel is a blast, bring lots and lots of ammo, it's a fun day. -Alec

the ruger trigger on the 22 is EXTREMELY heavy, I fired one, the trigger must of been at least 20 pounds, no joke. The 617 can be taken down to about 7-9 lbs with little effort.

I'm biast, but I think in the long run you'll be happier with the 617. Even if you decide to sell, they only go up in value - cant lose. What is the price of the 617 vs the Taurus? Like I said, they can be found for around 700 all day long.

Rules about shooting competition Rule # 1 - Do not shoot Me Rule # 2 - Do not shoot other shooters Rule # 3 - Do not shoot yourself Rule # 4 - Shoot the targets follow in that specifc order. Bye.

Folding stock on a semi auto rifle is a NO

Roger that! i'll bring out the mark 2 for rim irons tomm.

rimfire pistol iron or open ?

Negative, Steel Challenge ( Static Steel ) http://worldclasssteel.org

Steel Challenge @ OBRPC tomorrow sunday 10/6/13 Who be in? http://www.worldclasssteel.org

the 617 quickly became one of my fav guns after buying it to shoot steel challenge, i'd say go with the 617 s&w, they can be found for around 700 on the used market right now, and hold value.

Will there be an issue sending in classifications? do you need our numbers?

Read the home page. Itll be updated soon

Why dont you try nicks hard chromed STI trojan 9mm? that's pretty shiny . and it's an awesome gun

If you sell that 610 to anybody other then me I will stick my boot up your arse !

scores up http://obcats.com

I doubt that the biggest problem would be moisture penetrating through concrete, your steel safe & to your guns, But the air leakage from the humidity in the air. If I had to do it, i'd make sure the seal was good on my door, and get a quality de-humidifier for the safe.

Ahh yeh, I see now. It's a bit confusing when you first look at it.