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Got it Frank, PM'd back

Delete, I'm done.. I just know if I was able to invest at the same rate, I'd be hosting USPSA, Steel, and IDPA every weekend at my own private range for all the folks here.

Please Vlad, in 1999 the barrel of oil dipped to 17 dollars at one point during that year (oil companies were still making profits). Tell me something else that has increased more than 5 fold in the last 13 years.. I wish I could do that, heck I only plan on doubling my net-worth every 7 years and have been on par with that from about 1981 so am not new at his. Remember I am talking real changes, not excuses.. More than 500.00% increase over that period of time is not justifiable.

Sorry it took so long but I do have 6 X 4" no holes left, if you want holes I can drill them here at the house. I'll keep this up for 1 week and then I'll just keep them and do something with them..

Vlad, and what changed over the last 10 years that took the Price from Sub 30 dollars to the current days price?? Demand has increased in line with the past, product availability is the same ok, how was anyone making any money on sub 30 dollar a barrel oil? Come one, think back to odd/even day fill-ups, remember sitting at the beach and all you could see were tankers as far as the eye could see, but no we had a shortage. Oil, and all of it's byproducts cost to the customer are not in line with anything tangible, there is not supply disruption, there is no great demand change, speculation, pure speculation. If not, tell me any other product that has increased at the same rate as OIL and it's byproducts, and if you can, please tell me what has changed to have the price increase this much in this short a period of time, other than just bigger company profits.

I was going to say someting but I didn't want to :thsmiley_deadhorse:

I think I would have to agree also..

Need better options in the poll

Now that's different, and by the way, thats not a money scene.

I agree, unless you spoke with the person quoting you the price and they said, sure, I would not..

So much for the 1A & 2A huh..

They do screen the calls, all radio station do, and they are on a delay from what I understand, but if it's truly an ask the Governor show, then any valid question should be allowed, especially being one of the ones most dear to us is only # 2 after the 1st A and can they really not allow the 1a and 2A to not be allowed to be exercised on the show!!

Sad situation but don't feel excess force was used at all, if anything at all for the training I am surprised it wasn't more rounds.

Ok, once a month then..

I still say the NJ2AS and other groups should get together with a phone campaign on Thursday's when the Governor is on (if they still do that each week) and hit him live on the radio with well thought out list of questions. I say a group of 50 people call in from there home or where ever they are with a list of 50 different questions in hand, they all listen an go through the questions 1 by one in order. Do it each week as a group and maybe we will reach a larger audience when most of the calls coming in are PRO 2A & PRO Gun related. Might make the station's audience start to take notice. Remember the squeaky wheel get the oil, and we all know what the Governors position really is, but if he starts to notice that there are as many of us out here as there really are, or at least a perception that we may be a bigger voice, well voices are votes and no matter what, every politician is looking for votes.

I hear what you are saying, I know many of my friends from around the country think I am joking when I tell them about some of the things we need to do here in the PR of NJ. I think they are completely wrong what we have to do, but while I live here, I have to comply until it is changed, and yes I do what I can to support that change. However I will say, whenever you travel with firearms you need to check what the laws are in the states you are going through and your final destination as well and anyone who check's NJ Laws as well as NYC, that CCW is a big NO-NO.

And in the mean time?? Who changes it, not like it's going to magically happen, WE, the responsible members of the firearms community as a whole are going to help make these changes. Not saying everyone should just start open carrying on their property, but there are things we can do. You may ask what, well join and support some or all the groups that are fighting for our rights in my signature for starters. Not saying you're not doing your part, just posting it for any who may not be aware of these groups.

Same difference, ammo not in a barrel of something won't really go anyplace and with no real force. Not saying to do it, but just point out the difference between the 2 would still be the same.

This date works for me also. I also saw your going to be limiting the class to 12 shooters, you could count me out as a shooter and only will assist in RO'ing, as they say you learn a lot more by teaching, so being on that side of the fence will be just as good.

Mike would turn down free factory ammo over his reloads. For recoil management and reacquiring your sight picture after a shot it's like night and day when you compare the two.

Thats what I though back in the 70's when I you could buy plans for them from the back of a Popular Science magazine.

I agree Brian, it was much better riding before Cell Phones and 2 way pagers.

Hey we already did one at SYF, we had an ok turnout, especially for what time of the year and how close to the holidays it was. I also think it more centrally located to a larger group of people on the forum than other parts of the state. I'd know more but the Member Map was removed) lol They have sections of the place we can take over, so seating together as a group would be easier. They have good food, they have a large selection of Beer.

So who do you suggest make it NOT TABOO in NJ?? Or how??

Anytime Frank,,,