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That's actually a good thing Bob. At least you can enjoy time shooting together, well when she lets you shoot that is, does she make you load them for her while she is shooting?? Harry

Got it, I grew up with my old man owning a machine shop so I have been around them allot of my life, but as far as an artist, well I can barely draw a stick figure but I can turn out a quality part to spec. lol Harry

If they don't send for one, when I did my AZ it took 3 day to get the pack after I requested it so they are quick, and also very quick in turning them around after you apply. Harry

Thats a good point on racking the slide, my wife can rack the slide on my Glock with her fingers but with the palm it's a lot easier. One thing I do with my daughter (12 years old) and wife is when they rack it with there palm, I have them turn there body 90 degrees from down range while holding the muzzle pointed down range and rack it that way. A lot of time with people with less strength and new to shooting they will automatically point the gun 90 degrees to get the leverage and without turning the body they can break the 180 rule and sweep other people. Now as far as the P22, you your right I sure like shooting mine, but to tell you the truth, my wife has a Ruger MK III Hunter that I like a lot better, just wish I could take it and shoot it when she isn't with me. Harry

Frank, I will see you there tonight, too nice a day not to jump on the bike for a ride to come out for the meeting. I still say you should start doing 50/50's at these meeting as well as a donation box, some people may not want to go through website to donate, but tossing it in a collection box might be easier and I have no problem being the first one to toss in some money to help the cause. Harry

I think what may have thrown the thread off topic was the holster comment, and also the mention of sport and that is why my some of the initial responders whet the way they did as well as my post to you above. Now for just practice at the range you really don't need a holster, actually some ranges may not even like a gun that not of the shooting bench when your not shooting it. However practice, practice, practice a good start and focus on fundamentals of good trigger control and proper grip, but that all comes after proper and safe handling. There are plenty of schools that can help all shooters, from the new first time never held a gun person, to seasoned veteran. As far as what gun, I'd still stick with the 9mm just for the cost of shooting factor, as you will find out, or may have already, guns are cheap, ammo is what's going to cost money.

By sport if you mean practical shooting, ie: USPSA, IDPA, SCSA etc, for cost I would shoot the 9mm in production class. Production is going to get scored in Minor for power factor no matter what caliber you are shooting. I would also practice shooting shooting and being you don't reload I would consider picking up some custom ammo being it's not really that much more and in some cases maybe even a little cheaper than some factory ammo. Take a look at Ammo they have 9mm in minor that will get you right around 130 power factor, meaning you will have less recoil and easier control for acquiring your next sight picture. I think the 9mm minor is 260 bucks for a case (1000 rounds). As far as holsters, belts and mag pouches. I would say see what you can scrounge up from friends for a match and see if you like it and get an idea of if you really think you are going to participate in more matches. Some people don't like it but I would say from the people I have met who shot there first match, they are hooked. I'd probably rate that to about 90% who really enjoy it. Now if you find yourself in the 90% bracket, I'd say, pay once and cry once and get good gear, it won;t make you shoot better, sure hasn't worked for me, but having equipment not limiting you will greatly enhance the fun factor and let you concentrate on shooting and not trying to work around inferior equipment than can hold you up. Harry

Which is sad that these rules were thought up in the first place, outside the PRNJ they leave it out for anyone to touch hold and pick up and buy, as it should be. Harry

Thanks for the offer, maybe one day. They do have cool stuff out these days, the best we had was a pop gun with a cork on a string when I was a kid and only the rich kids had them, the rest of us just used stick. However we all had knives from the time we were about 7 - 8 years old and carried them everywhere including to school. Harry

I brought up location in reference to your original comment on where you keep yours, but I don't do that for the same reasons as you, just works out the same. Now I see no where did I say I was giving up my rights when stopped, but act like a Dick and and A$$hole and you will have more problems than you bargained for. Harry

Actually It's the anti-rust system, don't you know anything??? Harry

Is this a joking comment?? I don't know the laws on them, and don't know if you need a FID or not, but was interested in an answer to the other persons question. Harry

99% of the time if I am out of the PRNJ and I am in a state that I can carry I usually CC, not because I don't want to OC, I just rather carry that way. I always have my CCW license's with me and to tell you the truth I have never been stopped and questioned. I do know I will be polite and respectful with any LEO I encounter and not be a dick with them. I know if I am ever confronted I know I am legal, I know I have nothing to hide so I am not to concerned about it, 99.9999999% of the time if your not doing something wrong or drawing attention to yourself you aren't going to get hassled. As far as my paperwork for my firearms, I keep them in a brief case with all my pink slips, deed to the house and other misc paperwork so no going into where my guns are if I am at home, or my Ammo storage cabinet. Harry

Thanks, I'll look into it, I like the setup and also being able to roll it to another location is nice. Harry

Sorry did I miss something, this new tinfoil hat is too big for me... Harry

As far as cutting, if you really are going to do this and you have a chop saw and a hack saw I would take just a little of with each first and see which one give you the best results and make you final cut after you figure that out. Harry

Brian, who makes that bench, it looks familiar. Harry

Very cool, it's great that he has a hobby he enjoys and from the looks of it, he's pretty darn good at it. Harry

That's what I keep hearing, I plan to make it this week for both the USPSA light and OBRAMS, hope we don't get rained out. Harry

That's small and look light for a .40, doubt that will be a couple hundred round in a day gun, probably make my BG380 fell like a 22LR after shooting that. Harry

That's different in a neat sort of way, maybe try a fishnet theme on the next one. Harry

The savings are dependent on what your reloading. I am just about to start myself but reloading is or can be a hobby within a hobby. Not only are there savings that can vary on caliber, but you can load them to your gun, or what discipline you are shooting. Now for USPSA for major you need a power factor of 165, no reason to shoot a PF of 180 and more if you don't have to. Also say I am shooting steel, I can load to a lower power factor to reduce recoil for quicker sight acquisition. All depends on your preference. Now for myself, I plan on starting with .40 S&W so there is a huge savings over factory ammo, 9mm will follow down the road. Now for my 7.62x54R, I am better off buying spam cans in my eyes, I at this time wont be loading for accuracy in that caliber, and I don't see the amount of prep work to be worth my time at the moment. So it's all what you want to do, no one says you have to reload, but if someone want to and enjoys it, no need to knock it. Harry

You to?? LOL Harry

Imaging what would have happend years ago in Elizabeth is Mayor Dunn didn't take a strong stance. Wonder how that would go over today. Harry

As suggested, a Motorcycle safety course is a very good idea and even for riders that have some time under there belts I would suggest to take it as a refresher. Plus it does get you a discount on your insurance. One more thing, there is the post 1 year to 2 year rider syndrome, this is a condition when you think your good and nothing can hurt you, well let me tell you, and I have been riding for 27 going on 28 years just on street bikes and more years before that on off road bikes and while I can ride a bike, I know I can get hurt at any time. If you ever feel that this syndrome is kicking in, don't ride until you your over that. Harry