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Very cool, Bookmaked it. Thanks Harry

Thanks Frank, Just didn't know the loacation or if Anthony and his crew were the ones taking care of this. As far as being a member, I am as should be noted in my signature area.

Ok, being i am new here and don't know all the locations for these meeting, does anyone have a little more information on the location and time of the March meeting? I also understand there will be CCW services being done there, if this is true, who is doing them?? Harry

They should be closed so Tuesday looks to be the earliest. Harry

Well lets see what the responce is, to us on this side of the fence this has been easy to understand how this should turn out, but again we are in NJ. Harry

Sounds about how it works in NJ, but without holding my breath I'll be checking back for news later today. Harry

I have to add the meeting was good and like some others, I didn't mingle as much as I would have liked being I had to boggie so I could get 4 hours of sleep before work this morning. I can't agree more on what the NJ2AS is doing and joined last night myself and for anyone out there who was wondering if they should join, well if you care about changes to our current laws, JOIN. This group as well as the others are fighting not for their rights but OUR Rights and to say well let the other guy do that isn't going to work. So if you want change do somethng about it and suppot this and other groups that are trying to make those changes happen. I will be at the next meeting if I can make it and hope to be able to do a little more meeting of the folks from here. Oh yea, Pizza was good also. Harry

Good info, Glad you brought up the taxes, forgot about that was just thinking property taxes that are paid. Hope I didn't forget anythig else but you folks are a sharp group and I figure I'd get other ideas. Like I said, just something I am thinking about and the tax issue won't be on issue in another 5 years anyway being I am getting tired of this work thing getting in the way of my fun. Harry

Ok, We have hashed out a few threads regarding these 2 states, but here is a curve ball for you. I have a home here in NJ, there is another one in AZ, 1 is a hose my folks own, the second is my home. Say I commute to work, yes fly back each week, I work 3 or 4 days a week in NJ and spend my off days 3 or 4 (depending on how hany days I worked) in AZ. This is something I have been thining about doing for a few years and this oppertunity just might be available for me. The other option for work is woring the 1st-15th in NJ and taking the 16th-the end of the month off and living in AZ. Now I can't commit to saying where my Wife and Child are going to be, I may keep them here in NJ, or take adavantage of the AZ schools system for when my daughter comes of age to attend college. This would be a commute not any type of seperation or anything like that, it's I can fly 365 days a year for free and might use this to my advantage. Now, I would actually be living in both states 12 months a year, now I know some will say well only half being that you not in your home for 12 months. I say what about when I travel either for business or say I take a a month at a time and visit the islands and do this 3 or 4 times a year, would that disqualify someone from being a resident?, I'd say no, but what's your take on this. I know this is an off the wall and different question, but it is something that I could start tomorrow if I wanted. Also for you dual state folks, expamle FL, how do you handle DL License, registration, etc? Note this wouldn't be winter in one place and the other the reast of the year, but full time in each state all year, well discounting 10 weeks vacationing out of the country. How would gun purchases work, and if I did get either an AZ ID and kept my NJ DL license and kept my NJ FID, or just change over all to AZ and just drive around a AZ registered car in NJ. Here is the other issue that is of concern or cause of now commiting to one state or another. NJ gun laws are garbage and AZ is the free America, also while NJ is very expensive, AZ is more so when it come to registering vehicles, I can register 3 cars/truck plus 2 Harleys for a total of under 250 bucks a year here in NJ, while if I had to move that to AZ I would be probably about 400-800 (never did actual pricing but it's very close) for a total of probably over 3200 bucks a year. Yes I said that right and it's not a typo, but I will say my property taxes in NJ are 1000 a month while AZ is under what a quarter of the years costs me for the whole year. You see I am trying to have my cake and eat it also, probably can't pick and chose but wold like to get ideas. Onother thing is I could do the DL in AZ and be a AZ resident and take advantage of AZ laws, and keep my wife and put all vehicles under her in NJ for that cost savings. Idea? Harry

I know this is an old thread but I don't think it was like that. I can't remember for sure but I could swaer I was able to get my FID at 16 in NJ, but I night not be remembering that correctly, but I can say I never had to take a class or anything else other than fill out paperwork and pay to bey my FID. But that was over 25, but under 30 years ago. Harry

Not sure at that location of the rally or not, but in AZ I can carry open or CC and there are many there who do. Harry

Like I said this has been a good thread, best this we can all do regardless of how we feel this situation turns out would be to continue to do what we can as a group of respectable firearms owners in NJ and help change to laws of this state and support the groups that are fighting for our rights. I know many of us are and some are more active than others, but I hope a thread like this helps maybe some that were on the fence with joining groups or supporting these groups that are fighting for us to do more. Harry

Ok devil’s advocate, let change this up a little bit. You are on your way home for the range, every time you go to and from the range, never make a stop, you follow the letter of the law to a T but today you’re on your way home, halfway there and get a call your (wife, kid, family member) just got in a serious accident and they are at the hospital and are in critical condition. You change your route to the hospital. Now you are breaking the law. How would you think this situation should be handled? Just wondering, there is a lot of info out here and this is a quality thread. Harry

Thanks for the info, Never really looked into it, but won't be an issue down the road being I will be living there. Only issue at that time, is I'll be living in AZ and FL both. lol Harry

I don't think he is any of these things, not at all. I know when I am out in AZ I stop by a Cabella's there is AMMO all over the place, you can actually touch it right there, even kids can right there like you are looking at tools at Sears. Same with lots of guns, imagine that, wow, just a little bit of what it's like outside in the Free America and not NJ. Now my Folks Live in AZ most of the time, but still retain their NJ Driver's license's and Registration, Auto ins, BUT they still have an AZ ID being that they live there also. So having that, My father and Mother both can go out and buy as many hand guns as they like every day with no restriction. Then if they want they could being them to NJ keep them here and use them AS LONG AS they meet NJ regulations and are not breaking NJ law. I have thought about it, I can also get a AZ ID and when I am there during the 3 or 4 times a year I am out there I can buy as many as I like and take them back here to NJ with me even though I live in NJ. Yes I can show Property in AZ but I still don't think that should matter, living in a dorm your living there and if you pay a bill for something in AZ, electrictiy, water, gas etc; you can get an AZ ID. Harry

Call Kel-Tec, they may have a service that will ship you a shipping lable for either FedEc or UPS, USPS only can be used by a FFL. The gun will more than likely be returned directly to you, the one situation that it won't is if the repair changes the number on the gun, than it would have to be shipped to a FFL. Not sure about the out of state FFL, being if you being NJ resident purchase a hand gun online or through a dealer out of state, norally it would have to go through a NJ FFL, but don't wuote me on this last bit of info. Double check to make sure. Harry

You have a point.

That's a good idea, but wouldn't 5 be better. My thinking would be the date on them are the date they are signed, then mailed to you (that's the way Sayreville does it) I get them a day or 2 later. No I purchase a gun the day it arrives, wait 30 days, and so on. The PP is only good for 90 days, not 3 months, extend them another 90 days on the last 3 and that 180 days, so actually you would be a few days short of having a valid PP for the 6th gun. Harry

G19 is a nice range gun, I have one and the wife hasn't shot it yet but will one of these days. Just getting her into shooting. One thing thats good is your girl shot the G19 and liked it, I have see guys by there girls bigger caliber handguns thinking it was the best thing out there only to scare them off when they try it. Im looking at a BG380 as a CCW but will also looking at a few 22LR pistols. I can shoot a lot cheeper with a 22 now and then, plus breaking my OL in on a small gun and bring her up in caliber I think is a good way to go anyway. Harry

LOL, I'm in Arizona for the weekend, I could do that here. <G> but back in NJ i'd limit that to a AR-7 broken down to the stock and in a backpack that would hold a 16.5" rifle. lol Harry

Thanks Bob, I think in a vehicle with out a trunk it was to be kept out of reach and locked and unloaded as you would carry in the trunk but not in a glove compartment or center storage area but not imidiatly accessable. Harry

Good to hear I not the only one who has thought about or does transport on a bike. The FLX is a nice bike, keep the rubber side down. If ya see someone at SS during the week days when they first open on an grey FLHTCU at SS that would be more than likely me. Harry

I'll stick with the Cruser's, did dirt back in the late 70's and early 80's but only off road, all my street bikes have been Chopped out HD's and Trumpets, and now more into the geaser glide thing other then my 83 that's raked a little and 8 over. Appreciate the speed and perormance of the sport bikes but I think I would really like to find out how much they had and get myself in trouble. lol See ya at SS one of these days. Harry

Oh god, S&W doing a copy of Taurus and an ugly one at that. What next a copy of Highpoint?? lol Harry

I don't see it to be a problem but was waiting to see if someone knew the real scoup. Well I guess we will both find out now. What do ya ride, Im on a 08 Ultra and and 83 (Kick only) Shovel but putting the Pu$$y button back on for the heck of it, kicking her in front of a crowd ain't pretty if there are a few hardbellys around. LOL Harry