Turbotezza

Now all you need a gold plated Krink.

I meant lower than before they raised the price. $700 MSRP.

If it doesn't get banned, they should lower the MSRP by $300.

That is IF you consider the thumbhole stock a "pistol grip". Some do, some don't and some are not sure. However, unless there is a specific statute that says that it is illegal, Otherwise, thumbhole style stocks is technically legal as it is considered a thumbhole stock and not a pistol grip.

Why do I get the feeling that they are milking the market?

Ask Kel Tec wtf is going on with the supply of the KSG.

If you think a thumbhole stock on a rifle is OK as per NJ rules, then logic would dictate that it would be OK on a shotgun too..

Congrats! Will babysit for ammo!

I would add registration with ATF to that.

What!! Why isn't it black??!!

You'll need to become a business member to do this.

Since "thumbhole stock" isn't defined, it could go either way. Do I think a person might land up in court because of it? Sure. If is friking NJ, anything could happen. Making laws vague are sometimes the intention of the people who make them, it makes the sheep easier to police. Some will cower, some don't give a frack and some just leave. Which are you? (Yes, I know you left and so did I).

If only it was structural plastic.

"Pistol grip" means a 1) well defined handle, "well defined handle" could be part of the stock that is a handle.... this is strange because you could consider even some regular stocks to have a handle.. It doesn't say anywhere that the handle 'Could" be part of the stock. Since everything is relative.... the 'grip' on a thumbhole stock (not is not called thumbhole grip) is not at all well defined as compared to a "Pistol grip". This is important, since this "Pistol grip" is the basis of comparasion. 2) similar to that found on a handgun, "similar" A thumb hole stock doesn't look like any grip on a handgun I've ever seen. 3) that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, sticking out of gun on a level lower than the action of the gun You could argue that is behind the action of the gun. 4) and which permits the firearm to be held and fired with one hand. note it states allows it to be done.. not that it can be done easily.. or comfortably.. Agreed. IMO you can not have any decent stock/pg combo on a semi auto shotgun.... NJ law fails to define thumbhole, therefore it is either a traditional stock or a pistol grip.... for it to be a pistol grip it simply must fit the definition above.. All the factors mentioned above have (1 to 4) to be fulfilled before a grip of any sort can be deemed a "Pistol grip". IMHO, not all the conditions are met. Since NJ doesn't define "thumbhole stock" as a "pistol grip" like CA does, it by general definition is a "Stock" and not a "Pistol grip".

There is a guy selling what looks like the SLR95 stocks on GB for $25 BIN. I've bought one to take a look, but judging by the pics, it gonna take some mods to make it fit a S12.

There is no conversion kit. You'll need to find a SLR95 owner who would be willing to give up his stock.

I can only state my opinions, I can't speak for the State. My opinion is that the factory skeleton stock is the closest to the spirit of a thumbhole stock as the firearm itself was not modified by changing out the FCG. You can always go back by simply swaping out the skeleton stock.

Red Jacket Firearms used the factory skeleton stock on Milkey Teutul's NY compliant Saiga 12.

And the most "pistol grippy" one of them all...

It is from a Bulgarian/Arsenal SLR95 and requires moving the trigger group forward.

How about this one?

What about this?

Agreed!